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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 10:19
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Originally Posted by thetransporter View Post
FR are in quick:


Confirmed meeting times in MAN and BHX for all affectedMonarch Airline Flight Crew as follows - this Wednesday, 4th October, 9.30am,Crowne Plaza Manchester Airport and Ibis Styles Birmingham Airport/NEC at3.15pm - LTN and LGW meetings taking place on Thursday - times/venues tbc
Wouldn't it be great to discover that nobody showed up.

Very sad day for aviation, been there before and got the T-shirt, unfortunately I had an ATP type rating not an Airbus, they shouldn't be out of work long and shouldn't need to resort to air.

Good luck to them all.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 10:24
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To all and any Monarch staff still reading this thread, can I offer you my sincere and heartfelt sympathies. The next few weeks and months will be pretty difficult, but please don't suffer in silence. You have a fantastic set of skills, and they are valuable and transferable.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 10:32
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Having flown with Monarch around 120 times in the past 2 years, I can honestly say their staff were the best in the business - especially compared to my flights with Ryanair, easyJet and BA. I'd often pay more to fly Monarch rather than take a cheaper flight with easyJet, sad now to not have that choice.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 10:37
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any Monarch passenger will be repatriated over the next two weeks.
Not correct.
If you are presently in the UK and live abroad, the CAA are not interested in getting you home.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 10:44
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Very sad news - I work for a competitor UK airline but flew with Monarch regularly.
They have had a long history, were an excellent airline and I wish all employees all the very best, whatever the future holds in store.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 10:46
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Originally Posted by IB4138 View Post
Not correct.
If you are presently in the UK and live abroad, the CAA are not interested in getting you home.
Apologies, my default setting is to refer to passengers who are returning to the UK.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 10:55
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If there is so much demand from so many would-be passengers, and the infrastructure (aircraft and staff) exists, why doesn't 'somebody' come forward and take over the operation?

Or is it a case of 'How to make a small fortune in aviation' ?
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 11:05
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Originally Posted by 22/04 View Post
I think the decision as to whether keep operating under administration is due to the administrator is it not. This usually happens when there is a realistic chance of the operation being sold or funded to continue as a going concern. IS MAEL operating under administration?
MAEL is a separate company i believe and operating as normal at present
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 11:15
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I'd like to add my thanks to Monarch staff too, from my first flight in 1986 on a 757 to my last one 15 August on a A321, that would have been superseded this afternoon on ZB974. I'm sorry to see Monarch go, I too would pay more to fly with them, a good number of extra legroom seats, good inflight service and great crew. I hope all Monarch staff soon find new jobs. Thanks for your hospitality over the years.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 11:18
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Maybe the would-be passengers won't pay a fair price.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 11:27
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I only flew with Monarch once and it was years ago on an A330 from Newcastle (I think) to Cuba. From what I can remember it was a great flight with fantastic crew. Sad day for UK aviation and would like to wish all those Monarch staff all the best for the future.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 11:47
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I'm curious, flights booked directly with MON after 14th December 2016 are not ATOL protected. So why were flights before then protected? Did Monarch Airlines Ltd. hold their own ATOL certificate separate to the holidays branch?
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 11:49
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Originally Posted by Mikehotel152 View Post
For all their current woes, FR Captains in the UK are earning 115k gross, so it's not the end of the world to join them and it certainly pays the mortgage.
115k gross is Not true.
#fakenews
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 12:08
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Good luck to all concerned. I hope you realize how respected you are in the pilot community.

Happy to talk to any crew with questions about Easyjet (been here 10 years) just PM me.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 12:08
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So sorry for Monarch and all staff.

I don't understand how these things work so therefore I can't understand why the powers that be have hired a load of Qatar aircraft when there are lots of Monarch aircraft sitting on the ground, along with the crews, who are perfectly capable of going and fetching the stranded passengers. Why pay Qatar to fly all the way here and then all the way back instead of giving the money to Monarch and thence their creditors and using Monarch to do the job?

Unless of course the AOC has been pulled as well but that should be just a paper exercise for the CAA.

Can someone please enlighten me?
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 12:12
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Really gutted about this, a great and long standing name now gone. Due to failings and consolidation most of the great names such as British Midland, Britannia have gone and its sad as many great memories as a toddler/young boy falling in love with aviation watching these names.


First memory of Monarch was my first flight ironically on Britannia Airways, taking my seat as a four year old looking out the window to see a Monarch BAC 1-11 pull up beside us.


Flew with Monarch a few times, notably the excellent special final A300 flight they did from LGW to BHX, even have the headrest cover off the flight on my Flight Sim PC seat!


Will seem odd going to BHX/MAN/LTN to watch planes with my own kids and not seeing these around... nor in my flight sim world.


Thoughts with all the employees and passengers affected, hope all get fixed up quickly and with their great service I am sure most will.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 12:15
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prospects

sorry to hear the news, been there myself and not easy, if anyone wants to pm me i have number of openings in various positions in the Caribbean not just for front end but across the board and i can give more info

hopefully mods approve this type of message
thanks
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 12:16
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Originally Posted by Diverskii View Post
I'm curious, flights booked directly with MON after 14th December 2016 are not ATOL protected. So why were flights before then protected? Did Monarch Airlines Ltd. hold their own ATOL certificate separate to the holidays branch?
The did, the CAA imposed it on them due to the finances looking a bit dicey in 2014 when Greybull took over.

With the cash injection they got last year and the subsequent announcement that it secured their long term financial stability the CAA eased the restriction and allowed them to sell flights on the same level as everyone else with no cover (ATOL carries a 2.50 per person surcharge ).

Personally I think it's really rather sad that it's had to come to this, can't help but wonder what would have happened had they kept the 787 order and took on TUI/TCX in the longhaul leisure fray. I had some great flight with them in recent years, notably the last A300 flight but also a few scheduled trips down to Malaga and Innsbruck - sadly the thing that really made those flights stand out aside from the great crews was the fact they were largely empty. Only 16 of us on an A321 BHX - INN.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 12:47
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Originally Posted by Doctor Cruces View Post
So sorry for Monarch and all staff.

I don't understand how these things work so therefore I can't understand why the powers that be have hired a load of Qatar aircraft when there are lots of Monarch aircraft sitting on the ground, along with the crews, who are perfectly capable of going and fetching the stranded passengers. Why pay Qatar to fly all the way here and then all the way back instead of giving the money to Monarch and thence their creditors and using Monarch to do the job?

Unless of course the AOC has been pulled as well but that should be just a paper exercise for the CAA.

Can someone please enlighten me?
Seems worse. All the bottom feeders from uk and easten europe called in to repatriate pax as well. Seriously, How Ironic

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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 12:51
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This is such a sad day.

My nearly 25 years with Monarch were the best of my career, spanning the EuroBerlin contract in the late 80's to ten years on the a330.
What fabulous memories of a great airline and fantastic crew and staff.

My thoughts are with all former friends and colleagues on the demise of one of aviations great airlines!
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