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[MANFOD]

No need to be picky - I meant a leak in advance of the official announcement.

Don't think the capacity figures quoted are right either for both a/c types.

You're right though about putting MAN in an elite category.

[pwalhx]

Freight will probably be shifted on to flights from Newcastle and Birmingham and maybe further afield. Cargo doesn't really care where it fly's from.

Ideally we may see a freighter or a 4th passenger service to add some belly capacity though, fingers crossed.

[LAX_LHR]

A more robust press release than the MEN article:


A380 Dubai- Manchester twice a day - eTurboNews.com


Certainly seems to be a lot of fanfare, so, even though schedules only show A380 up to Marsh 28th, the articles seem to insinuate a permanent change.

[MANFOD]

Throwback Thursday: ?Return of the Jeddah? ? Saudia?s Back at Manchester :: Routesonline

The article refers to the original announcement and then reviews how the route is doing. The loads they mention are not too bad but not great. I guess financially it depends on take up of the premium cabins and the amount of freight carried.

[MANFOD]

Re EK:

A more robust press release than the MEN article:

It certainly is and with the quotes from senior execs. it does imply a permanent upgrade.

[LAX_LHR]

MANFOD,


Given the article states this:

A year on, the route is still very much in operation during the peak season, and will resume the three-times weekly service from March, operating on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays.

It seems the info is not quite 100%.

[MANFOD]

LAX_LHR, yes I noticed that and was puzzled. Not sure how they would separate the flynas figures either, or are they available if you apply to the CAA?

[Suzeman]

It seems the info is not quite 100%.

Looks like it has been corrected after someone e-mailed her . It now reads

A year on from the announcement and the route is performing to expectations, according to Saudia staff in the UK. In fact the airline in late November 2014 introduced a fourth weekly frequency with the launch of a new Monday rotation.

Not sure how they would separate the flynas figures either, or are they available if you apply to the CAA?

The source is shown at the bottom of the graph - Data provided by Sabre

MEN article filed this morning about the second UAE A380 was no doubt based on speculation on here and elsewhere. If only she had waited 5 minutes she could have used the official release. So in fact the story has now been updated to make it official

Emirates bosses confirm launch of second daily A380 flight from Manchester to Dubai - Manchester Evening News

Perhaps they thought no one would notice....

[MANFOD]

At least it gave the M.E.N the opportunity of reporting a good news story twice even if the first was more speculative. Politicians are very good at that.

[Suzeman]

At least it gave the M.E.N the opportunity of reporting a good news story twice even if the first was more speculative. Politicians are very good at that.

Yes - surprised it doesn't say something like "As exclusively predicted in this paper earlier ...."

[cheesebag]

Birmingham have just announced a third daily 777 EK flight so maybe freight could go that way.

[MKY661]

Monarch dropping AYT, BJV, DBV, LPA, LCA & PFO this summer.

[MANFOD]

Monarch dropping AYT, BJV, DBV, LPA, LCA & PFO this summer.

Hadn't that been indicated from earlier timetables and the fact MAN was expected to lose 3 based a/c? Still, it's disappointing if all those routes were under review and all of them are being dropped. That's a fair amount of capacity being lost by Monarch at MAN which needs to be made up elsewhere.

Mind you, there's a lot of good things happening so fingers crossed for decent growth this year.

[kieb92]

According to Airlineroute, Thomson to operate several short haul flights from Manchester on the 787 next summer:

Boeing 787 / Airbus A350XWB Current / Future Routes Update | Airline Route

[Seljuk22]

EK press release:
Emirates launches second daily Airbus A380 service to Manchester Airport | Emirates Deutschland

[1mach]

Monarch dropping AYT, BJV, DBV, LPA, LCA & PFO this summer.

Are Monarch financially secure?

[Bagso]

Typical that this is happening AFTER the flights start not BEFORE !

Airport teaches potential employees Chinese to help with tourism and business boom - Manchester Evening News

I indicated thru these columns 6 months back that the welcoming committee should have been in place day 1 !

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

Are Monarch financially secure??

Not very imo.

[Fairdealfrank]

3. As another old duffer I feel the crucial moment came in 1987 with the demise of BCal. If at that moment the Government had said to Sir Richard--- OK you can have Manchester and Gatwick long distance, BA is getting Heathrow-- subsequent history may have been different.

BCAL ended because of a failure of government regulation. The much flawed "second force" idea was to create a large independent carrier to compete with state owned BEA and BOAC. So far so good.

Unfortunately, and this is the flaw, this "second force" carrier was denied access to LHR, resulting in very uneven competition. Consequently, BCal was unable to take advantage of substantial numbers of premium pax and the extensive connectivity available at LHR.

What should have been done, obviously, was more terminal and rwy capacity at LHR to accomodate the "second force", but that is a whole different subject for a different forum.

BUA suffered a similar fate and was bought by BCal, which in turn failed and was bought by BA (which gave it a base at LGW).

VS did manage a shift to LHR and survived and prospered, if it had been confined to LGW and MAN without access to LHR, history would probably not have been any different.

[Skipness One Echo]

VS did manage a shift to LHR and survived and prospered, if it had been confined to LGW and MAN without access to LHR, history would probably not have been any different.

Branson does state in his aurobiography that VS would have gone under if they had not gotten into LHR when they did in 1991 as the first Gulf War had just broken out and flying took a major hit.
Long haul is about hub connectivity and LHR has a huge historic advantage over Gatters. Any attempt to build MAN into a similar hub would face a the same issues sadly. That's noto say VS cannot now make the most of the Delta connection at the US end to grow out of MAN, and not before time IMHO.