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That is correct. These are third party bookings, it's a bit like going to First Choice and you end up booking a Thomas Cook holiday and fly on a TUI jet. It can get a bit confusing.
My general point to all concerned are this:
1. Cooks have no flight operations from SEN.
2. They have fully pulled out of a number of Spanish destinations.
3. Any remaining may well not last much longer.
4. They will not be operating their own aircraft from SEN other than empty when they elect to carry out servicing when the need arises.
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My general point to all concerned are this:
1. Cooks have no flight operations from SEN.
2. They have fully pulled out of a number of Spanish destinations.
3. Any remaining may well not last much longer.
4. They will not be operating their own aircraft from SEN other than empty when they elect to carry out servicing when the need arises.
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I don't really get why Thomas Cook are getting a mention here as they have never operated from Southend with their own metal, and as far is I'm aware have never had a desire to do so.
The only tour operator that offers a very limited service from SEN is Thomson using their once weekly service operated by Volotea to Palma in the summer months.
Thomson are in my opinion the only ones who would or could give a bigger operation a go here at SEN, but without 24/7 operations and/or diluting their STN operation there really isn't much chance of this happening IMHO. EasyJet pretty much have the required market covered here.
I don't personally see much growth from anything other than Easy, but in all fairness where or what else is there to give a go? I think SEN has pretty much reached it's limits in terms of it's offerings within the market as it stands.
As for Stobart Air, their routes seemed to have been plucked from a hat.
The only tour operator that offers a very limited service from SEN is Thomson using their once weekly service operated by Volotea to Palma in the summer months.
Thomson are in my opinion the only ones who would or could give a bigger operation a go here at SEN, but without 24/7 operations and/or diluting their STN operation there really isn't much chance of this happening IMHO. EasyJet pretty much have the required market covered here.
I don't personally see much growth from anything other than Easy, but in all fairness where or what else is there to give a go? I think SEN has pretty much reached it's limits in terms of it's offerings within the market as it stands.
As for Stobart Air, their routes seemed to have been plucked from a hat.
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Agree with everything said above.
I am however uncertain why the seemingly successful SEN-NQY route which was picked up by BE "mainline" last year has been transferred to STN.
On the face of it the route seemed to show good load factors. I'm surprised that BE have not tried to operate the route 3 or 4 weekly under the franchise agreement.
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I am however uncertain why the seemingly successful SEN-NQY route which was picked up by BE "mainline" last year has been transferred to STN.
On the face of it the route seemed to show good load factors. I'm surprised that BE have not tried to operate the route 3 or 4 weekly under the franchise agreement.
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That route probably went to STN as a result of MAG negotiations as they also had a deal with Flybe at Bournemouth announced around the same time, plus they launched Isle of Man and Newcastle too which is disappointing from a SEN perspective.
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Getting to be a habit with Blue Islands...... BBC News - Lightning strike forces Blue Islands plane diversion to Southend
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All this talk about tour operators then Transun announce a Lapland day trip from SEN departing on 13 December 2015.
Depart 07:30 SEN - Enontekio
Return 21:30 Enontekio - SEN
flights operated by EnterAir
Depart 07:30 SEN - Enontekio
Return 21:30 Enontekio - SEN
flights operated by EnterAir
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Transun are renowned for cancelling these if the seats don't sell. This happened with their offerings from Manston to Lapland a few years ago. So I would believe it once the wheels have left the tarmac, next December.
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73,768 pax in December according to CAA provisional stats. This represenmts a drop of 7.4% on the previous year. The new routes had the following totals:
Antwerp 2561
Berne 842
Caen 736
Rennes 4222
Munster 1879
Groningen 2064
Maastricht 605
Antwerp 2561
Berne 842
Caen 736
Rennes 4222
Munster 1879
Groningen 2064
Maastricht 605
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They have 7x 737.800s 8x 737.400s and have 1x A320 on lease to them,the A320 can use SEN, the 737.800 cant due to the runway, what about the 400 could that use SEN or will it have to be the A320 also could the 400 make it to FINLAND with a full load?
The Caen load factor was around 48% and Groningen looks like 57% according to my calculations.
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The load factor for Southend-Groningen in December was 55.1%. See below the passenger numbers and load factors on this route since its start in June. This makes a total of 12,766 passengers during the first seven months. Stobart Air's target for the first full year was 20,000 passengers. With the results of the first seven months the route is on track to reach approximately 22,000 passengers.
- June: 1546. 49%.
- July: 2087. 54%.
- Aug: 2065. 55%.
- Sep: 1550. 41%.
- Oct: 1797. 46%.
- Nov: 1657. 46%.
- Dec: 2064. 55%.
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I've posted this before and I will post it again - the ATR routes are wrong. With all due respect to Southend, it is not a major player as far as airports go and neither are the destinations chosen. Effectively Stobarts have been trying to operate routes from nowhere to nowhere or to points which are effectively already otherwise served. This does not work. Look at Antwerp, for example. An interesting city, major sea port and Europe's, if not the world's diamond capital. The diamond market is effectively served from LCY with its proximity to Hatton Garden and much of the rest of the market flies to or from Brussels Airport which is only 30 minutes away by road and that's before we mention the tunnel. Maastricht - charming city but why would one particularly choose it over the many alternative European destinations for a city break or whatever? In the other direction, sure the good citizens of Maastricht might view SEN as a gateway to London but there's not enough of them (population of Maastricht circa 119,000). London - Maastricht has been tried before into more major London airports and it has not worked. The only service which ran for a reasonable period of of time was with NLM (forerunner of KLM Cityhopper) which operated LGW/EIN/MST almost entirely supported by Phillips business to/from EIN (I used the service to/from MST in the 1970s quite often and after the EIN pax left the aircraft there were normally about 4 pax for MST). At least with the French routes there is a bit of a chance but a 48% LF as quoted above is not sustainable unless the yield is superb, which I suspect its not.
The sad truth is that, whoever did the route planning for the ATR ops did not know what he or she was doing. There are only two types of route that will work from SEN: 1/ a unique London service where there might be enough demand to provide a decent load for a turboprop but not enough demand to attract a competitor - in this respect if there was not the Cityjet service into LCY, ANR might have worked or 2/ routes where you can make a profit by taking a very small share of a very large market - Easy to AMS being a good example.
Sorry to bang on about this but it just annoys me to see what should be an opportunity to run a new small but profitable operation being c**ked up.
The sad truth is that, whoever did the route planning for the ATR ops did not know what he or she was doing. There are only two types of route that will work from SEN: 1/ a unique London service where there might be enough demand to provide a decent load for a turboprop but not enough demand to attract a competitor - in this respect if there was not the Cityjet service into LCY, ANR might have worked or 2/ routes where you can make a profit by taking a very small share of a very large market - Easy to AMS being a good example.
Sorry to bang on about this but it just annoys me to see what should be an opportunity to run a new small but profitable operation being c**ked up.
