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Old 21st Jan 2014, 22:15
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Seeking compensation and actually winning it are two different things, of course!
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Old 22nd Jan 2014, 05:06
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Part of the planning permission from the council was that the airport would sound insulate properties that were badly affected by noise.

Airport - London Southend Airport - Southend-on-Sea Borough Council

Also there is this about general compensation

Part 1 Compensation | Community Relations & News | London Southend Airport

House owners deserve compensation when they are being terrified

Low flying Boeing 737 taking off full of fuel for Jeddah terrifies household in Southend


A FAMILY were left terrified after a plane loaded with enough aviation fuel to fly to the
Middle East took off from Southend Airport and narrowly missed roof tops.

The white Boeing 737 jet took off for Jeddah at 3.20pm last Thursday, and passed very close to two homes in Prince Avenue, Westcliff.

A 51-year-old resident, who asked not to be identified, was in his garden when the jet roared above him at 250ft – instead of the usual 450ft.

The resident, whose elderly parents live with him, said: “I live directly on the flight path so I am used to planes going over, but this was extremely low. “I have never experienced anything like it.

“It wasn’t an easyJet plane. It was flying about half what they normally do. I thought it was going to take my aerial off at least! “I have lived here all my life and have never seen any plane fly so low.”

The resident’s 82-year-old father and 75-year-old mother were left in a state of shock.
His mum said: “It really frightened me so much. “I have angina and had to take my medication. I thought the roof was coming off it was so low. I’ve never heard anything like it. It was like a bomb coming down. It was really like during the war.

“I couldn’t stop shaking and every time I hear a plane now I think it’s going to happen again.” The plane had been at the airport for maintenance and was not carrying passengers.

Edit I have just looked at the satellite image of the runway and Prince Ave. The housing is so close that the airport could not install a full set of approach lighting so only have 3 bars of lighting and not the standard 5.

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Prince avenue, or as its other wise known, the A127 or to old farts the Arterial'
Is probably the busiest road in Essex after the A12, maybe the A13 sneaks in..
If you live on it I'd be surprised if you heard a plane crashing in your garden
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What has happened to Expressflight? No posts since December 10th, hope he is alright.
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He was on holiday for a bit, but yes we all hope he is well.
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Yes, I took a six week winter break in the Algarve to enjoy the sunshine and be well away from aviation; well that was the intention but it didn't quite work out like that during the last two weeks. I arrived back at SEN yesterday to a very good passenger experience as usual, but the ongoing terminal completion work makes it look a bit of a building site.

There will be some SEN news very soon I think regarding new routes, one way or the other, and I see that JOTA are adding an RJ85(?) to their SEN-based fleet for ACMI and up-market charter work.

As far as JOIN! is concerned I think they are still trying to finalise investment so I doubt anything is likely to be announced for some time and their chances of successfully launching still are not assured in my view. I wish them luck though as their persistence deserves some reward.

I note that the SEN-based A320 operating the TFS route served a number of other EZY routes from SEN around Christmas; presumably taking advantage of its greater capacity. There were six EZY aircraft on the terminal ramp yesterday lunchtime which looked impressive even if a number were idle.

It will be interesting to se what 2014 has in store for SEN.
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Prince avenue, or as its other wise known, the A127 or to old farts the Arterial'
Is probably the busiest road in Essex after the A12, maybe the A13 sneaks in..
If you live on it I'd be surprised if you heard a plane crashing in your garden
You're funny

A 51-year-old resident, who asked not to be identified, was in his garden when the jet roared above him at 250ft – instead of the usual 450ft.
What did the 51-year-old resident, who asked not to be identified, measure the height of the aircraft with?
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Old 24th Jan 2014, 09:46
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It certainly will be nice to see the extension work finally finished. It would be good to see the tantalising "early-2014" completion refined to a more definite estimate - but I suppose it is best to err on the side of caution.


Apart from the "work-in-progress" appearance my recent trip to Amsterdam from SEN was typically good. Flights pleasingly full on both legs.
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my recent trip to Amsterdam from SEN was typically good. Flights pleasingly full on both legs
"Full" = "100%"

I very much doubt that both your chosen flights were full to the point where there wasn't a spare seat between them, indeed I'll go as far as to call you a liar ... Care to prove me wrong?
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Calling him a liar is surely a little harsh Phileas, but perhaps my holiday has mellowed me somewhat.

I would take "pleasingly full" to possibly mean nearly full or encouragingly full; not necessarily 100%. My inbound FAO yesterday was also encouragingly well populated but not 100% full. Anyway, we all know that fullness doesn't necessary equate to the flight being highly profitable.
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The EZY A320 has been used on non TFS flights to bring those flights on time and avoid potential delays due to the original A319 being delayed. The only flights being sold at A320 capacity are those to from TFS
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why on earth can it not be 100% full. It is reasonably common and could equally apply in this case. If someone takes issue with it, then I suggest its up to them to confirm whether or not that is fact or not.
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why on earth can it not be 100% full
How many flights each day are there between south-east England and Schiphol and what are the chances that both flights that one chooses to travel on are both fully booked and without a single no-show?

Expressflight,

Nothing personal, and whilst I personally wish SEN Airport every deserved success, but this thread has become somewhat reminiscent of the CWL thread whereas the posters that know what they are talking about are the minority whilst the aviation enthusiasts (Reggie Spotter's) appear to be the majority!
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I see that JOTA are adding an RJ85(?) to their SEN-based fleet for ACMI and up-market charter work.



I believe it will be a 146-200
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Just to clarify after the somewhat dramatic response by Phileas Fogg -


Both my flights had a pleasingly high number of passengers and were indeed pretty full (though not 100%). I would of thought that what I was implying was clear.


One could almost suggest that PPRuNe has the occasional pedant posting on it!
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the posters that know what they are talking about are the minority whilst the aviation enthusiasts (Reggie Spotter's) appear to be the majority!
Nothing wrong with being an aviation enthusiast. I was one myself once.
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One could almost suggest that PPRuNe has the occasional pedant posting on it!
A pedant would weep at a 52 year old using "would of".
I would of thought that what I was implying was clear.
* weeps

Having a house so very close to the end of a runway isn't clever. It's only going to get worse as time goes by, but they chose to live in a house, at the end of a runway. First world problem!

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Old 24th Jan 2014, 15:29
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...but they chose to love in a house...
Good old S1E - ever the romantic!
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Barling - you wrote that you were an aviation enthusiast once. Should we infer that your working in aviation has destroyed that enthusiasm ? If the personal interest and curiosity has gone, why are you posting on this site ?
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