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There has been talk of Aer Arann operating domestic / near continent routes out of Southend (this even appeared in the Stobart annual report), however there hasn't been any further news or rumours on this for a while now. With the ATR 42s now up for lease this would seem to be unlikely.
I suppose it is possible that they could use an ATR 72 but I have no idea as to their fleet utilisation and whether they have spare capacity.
I suppose it is possible that they could use an ATR 72 but I have no idea as to their fleet utilisation and whether they have spare capacity.
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Seems that the EDI and Newquey services are next for the chop. Can anyone confirm this?
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I assume the easyjet summer timetable like Ryanair is far from finalised as there does seem some odd frequencies. Amsterdam come September is just daily on a Tuesday and Wednesday yet three daily on an May Wednesday.
Edinburgh seems to end on 14 June but there is a message saying bookable to 14 September.
I think the most shocking cut-backs are next month, which is a Europe-wide happening not just Southend but Tuesday seems to see just three flights - is that with three/four based aircraft? In mid January on a Tuesday all I can find is one Amsterdam, Faro and Tenerife. Thursday is similar with EDI operating rather than TFS.
The Monday and Friday schedule looks fine and I know easyjet have done the same at other UK airports on the quieter days of the week in January but as a smaller base it looks worse.
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Edinburgh seems to end on 14 June but there is a message saying bookable to 14 September.
I think the most shocking cut-backs are next month, which is a Europe-wide happening not just Southend but Tuesday seems to see just three flights - is that with three/four based aircraft? In mid January on a Tuesday all I can find is one Amsterdam, Faro and Tenerife. Thursday is similar with EDI operating rather than TFS.
The Monday and Friday schedule looks fine and I know easyjet have done the same at other UK airports on the quieter days of the week in January but as a smaller base it looks worse.
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Appears there's no SEN - KRK either from 14 September 2014, all other routes except those in question are now on sale until 25th October.
From 15th September that leaves only: Alicante, Amsterdam, Barcelona, Berlin, Faro, Geneva, Ibiza, Jersey, Malaga, Palma and Venice.
Appears also only 3 aircraft again at this time (might explain AMS reduction) but I'm sure could quite easily go back up to 4 by Summer 2015.
From 15th September that leaves only: Alicante, Amsterdam, Barcelona, Berlin, Faro, Geneva, Ibiza, Jersey, Malaga, Palma and Venice.
Appears also only 3 aircraft again at this time (might explain AMS reduction) but I'm sure could quite easily go back up to 4 by Summer 2015.
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AMS is back down to 2x daily as well.
It's possible these routes have been dropped. On the other hand the performance of this year's NQY would have been known before reinstating the route for next year, likewise AMS before announcing the increase. Certainly load-wise, KRK has been doing well. So something else might be going on.
In my mind, the situation is either:
1. An aircraft really is being removed, possibly temporarily to support growth at LGW or long term at STN
2. EDI and the middle AMS have been dropped for a new leisure route(s) of circa 2.5 hrs duration each way (Menorca? Naples? Malta?)
3. A 5th aircraft is on the way and the schedules are being re-jigged.
It may not be bad news.
It's possible these routes have been dropped. On the other hand the performance of this year's NQY would have been known before reinstating the route for next year, likewise AMS before announcing the increase. Certainly load-wise, KRK has been doing well. So something else might be going on.
In my mind, the situation is either:
1. An aircraft really is being removed, possibly temporarily to support growth at LGW or long term at STN
2. EDI and the middle AMS have been dropped for a new leisure route(s) of circa 2.5 hrs duration each way (Menorca? Naples? Malta?)
3. A 5th aircraft is on the way and the schedules are being re-jigged.
It may not be bad news.
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According to a reply to someone on the EZY FB page asking if the EDI route would stop in June:
easyJet wrote: "Hi Neil, according to the information we have this route will still be available all year long. Hope this helps, Clarissa."
Now I know that the EZY guys replying to FB requests don't have the full picture by any means, but I would have thought that she would have said that she did not know the answer rather than what she did.
Certainly the load factors (not yield, I know....) in December have been high on the SEN-EDI flights.
In reply to another chap asking if any new routes were to be offered from SEN during 2014 EZY replied:
"Hello John, Yes, we do. Please keep an eye on our profile as we'll keep you informed as soon as we have an update."
So, make of those replies what you will.....
easyJet wrote: "Hi Neil, according to the information we have this route will still be available all year long. Hope this helps, Clarissa."
Now I know that the EZY guys replying to FB requests don't have the full picture by any means, but I would have thought that she would have said that she did not know the answer rather than what she did.
Certainly the load factors (not yield, I know....) in December have been high on the SEN-EDI flights.
In reply to another chap asking if any new routes were to be offered from SEN during 2014 EZY replied:
"Hello John, Yes, we do. Please keep an eye on our profile as we'll keep you informed as soon as we have an update."
So, make of those replies what you will.....
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I think people have jumped the gun a bit and assumed because certain routes are not yet bookable online that they are being dropped. They could still be working on schedules etc. June is still a long way off and with the terminal extension opening soon, perhaps some news can be expected then regarding EZY (or others) ?
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Not to go off topic or anythig but could EZY get an A320 off SEN's runway non stop to SSH? I know an A319 would (for the most part) be fine but I think the A320 could struggle.
Despite what TOM say, a 738 would be allright down to AGP/FAO/CFU/PMI etc, a 757 could definitely do it... In fact they could open up SSH with a 757. Pure speculation but I think it would be nice to see.
Despite what TOM say, a 738 would be allright down to AGP/FAO/CFU/PMI etc, a 757 could definitely do it... In fact they could open up SSH with a 757. Pure speculation but I think it would be nice to see.
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While SEN has no doubt had a very successful year it has also had its failures with closed routes or pending closed routes.
I can think of the following routes that did not last or will not last 12 months:
Waterford
Galway
Belfast
Newquay
Edinburgh
There will be a few others in the next 12 months including I predict Dublin and Jersey.
Southend has a bright future but not with routes to the UK and Ireland.
I can think of the following routes that did not last or will not last 12 months:
Waterford
Galway
Belfast
Newquay
Edinburgh
There will be a few others in the next 12 months including I predict Dublin and Jersey.
Southend has a bright future but not with routes to the UK and Ireland.
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Well I also did think of that but you can sometimes see the joins of the photos and here I can't. Also in the general shot of the airport (if you look at Google maps) the sun seems to be at the same angle looking at the shadows. No doubt you are correct but it is a strange photo.
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Southend has a bright future but not with routes to the UK and Ireland.
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I thought the 2 planes on the runway at the same time was testings to see if it could work ok. I thought it was being done to see if it could work at lhr instead of building another runway.
with a quieter runway it would be done here b4 it was tried at lhr.
happy new year to all on this thread.
with a quieter runway it would be done here b4 it was tried at lhr.
happy new year to all on this thread.