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Old 10th Aug 2017, 22:40
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Originally Posted by Waldo1
Nah mate...I heard a rumour brexit was binned off, they're not gonna bother doing that now...
Did someone tell Arlene that......
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 04:28
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Originally Posted by racedo
Which part of BREXIT do you not get ?

Belfast Airports will be affected by Brexit and why would Ryanair launch routes that it has to stop.
There are two sides to Ryanair, the threatening side that is and was all bluster and there is the other side that continues to launch many new routes to and from the UK.

I believe 17 new routes were started from the UK in March so your comment about Belfast and Brexit are not based on facts.
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 08:04
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No aircraft will be grounded the day the UK leaves the EU. I often fly between SEN and JER. Jersey is neither part of the UK or the EU. Arrangements are made, life goes on. Oh, and there are no border controls either.

MOL will be looking for someway FR can gain from this situation. Perhaps a cut in APD to ease the pain of exit.

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Old 11th Aug 2017, 10:31
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
No aircraft will be grounded the day the UK leaves the EU. I often fly between SEN and JER. Jersey is neither part of the UK or the EU. Arrangements are made, life goes on. Oh, and there are no border controls either.

MOL will be looking for someway FR can gain from this situation. Perhaps a cut in APD to ease the pain of exit.
Jersey is a British Crown Dependency, defended and internationally represented by the UK. How the relationship between Jersey (and the rest of the Channel Islands) and the EU27 plays out after 29th March 2019 remains to be seen.

The 'things get sorted' attitude completely underestimates the political and legal challenges of extricating ourselves from the single aviation market, and the multitude of international air services agreements tied to it.
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 10:45
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I wouldn't be too sure Dave, the EU are going to try and shaft the UK because they don't want anyone else to leave, plus the UK leaving will make a large hole in their coffers. I think a lot of people who voted to leave thought on the Friday after the result those awful foreigners would have to pack their bags straightaway. That is not going to happen and the main sticking point as I see it is the Irish border problem. Ireland is not going to leave the EU so you have got have a border somewhere if not those from continental Europe can fly/ferry to Dublin and get on a train or bus to the north and oh dear we are in the UK. Don't hold your breath if the UK will be leaving the UK in 18 months time.
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 11:46
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There are lots of clever people out there happy to sort it out for a sum equivalent to the GDP of a small nation. There'll be problems - last minute extensions and I certainly don't underestimate the cost to the industry. But I think you'll find FR will still be here when we leave, and if by chance I'm wrong - someone else will fill the void. It's the way the world works.

Sorry, Compton I posted before I read yours. All I know it was I damn sight easier to move around the continent before we joined the EU.
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 12:08
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Probably will end up with stricter controls at NI airports and seaports for departing passengers

After all Ryanair insist on passports as official documentation
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 13:20
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No they don't. I use my Citizen Card for ID for domestic flights. Really amuses me why passengers use the most expensive ID document to replace for ID when they don't need to. Great example of herd instinct. Passport yes for international flights.
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 13:47
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Originally Posted by True Blue
No they don't. I use my Citizen Card for ID for domestic flights. Really amuses me why passengers use the most expensive ID document to replace for ID when they don't need to. Great example of herd instinct. Passport yes for international flights.
They did insist on it for a while and then didn't really make a song and dance about it when the requirement was dropped. So I don't entirely blame people for not realising.

That said, they have accepted other ID for quite a while now.
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 13:52
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
Sorry, Compton I posted before I read yours. All I know it was I damn sight easier to move around the continent before we joined the EU.
Was it? There weren't border stations at every crossing then? You didn't need a passport to fly from Amsterdam to Rome then?

There are many genuine reasons to critique the EU but making movement harder certainly isn't one of them.
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 14:15
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Indeed, I was trying to figure out what DC-3 meant. As one who lives on the European mainland I can tell you that movement became a lot easier as an EU passport holder!
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 14:27
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Disagree Dave again, never NEVER had to show my passport across continrntal Europe except for entering or leaving GiB and UK - both non-Schenghen countries - with the UK being the least pleasurable by a long way (that is both by sea and air).Plus I don't think the Northern Irish parties would except stricter controls from one part of the UK to another.
I whole heartedly agree about Ryanair though.
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 15:36
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A bit of thread drift here in the last few posts. As I have already stated Ryanair say one thing and then often do another so it is incorrect to say Brexit has killed off any future new routes out of Belfast.
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 17:58
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Originally Posted by LTNman
A bit of thread drift here in the last few posts. As I have already stated Ryanair say one thing and then often do another so it is incorrect to say Brexit has killed off any future new routes out of Belfast.
Totally agree with you, they are masters of hyperbole
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 18:37
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Without wanting the thread to drift any further, the big problem is that nobody knows what is going to happen - might be a damp squid and nothing changes for airlines but there is at least the potential for it all to go pear shaped - airlines will need to plan for that and the only winners will be the lawyers...
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 21:48
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Originally Posted by True Blue
No they don't. I use my Citizen Card for ID for domestic flights. Really amuses me why passengers use the most expensive ID document to replace for ID when they don't need to. Great example of herd instinct. Passport yes for international flights.
Ryanair UK Domestic routes, limited though they are, are likely to be a casualty of Brexit. as Ryanair may not wish to use a UK AOC.
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 00:13
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racedo I don't think you're right, but you may be - as SWBKCB says nobody knows. But, if you are right, any abandoned viable routes will soon be serviced by A N Other. And really that's all I mean when I suggest 'life goes on'. I can't say any more because I agree I'm contributing to some unwelcome thread drift.
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 10:51
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
racedo I don't think you're right, but you may be - as SWBKCB says nobody knows. But, if you are right, any abandoned viable routes will soon be serviced by A N Other. And really that's all I mean when I suggest 'life goes on'. I can't say any more because I agree I'm contributing to some unwelcome thread drift.
There isn't ANY UK Airline out there that has the scope, aircraft or ability to pick up much in the event Ryanair had to abandon many Uk routes.
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 13:52
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If anything was to happen to 'abandon UK routes' it would most likely to be a few days or a week at the most until Ryanair get back onto their feet and sort out an agreement. If Ryanair did abandon routes, that means tourism in the markets they serve will be heavily hit - no country will want that... Probably a reduced schedule for a few days to a week if anything and well planned in advanced.
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Old 13th Aug 2017, 16:42
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Ryanair Summer 2018

Does anyone know when Ryanair will begin to revealing their Summer 18 schedule - none have been done so far AFAIK.

It was Mid July when Ryanair started press releases for their Summer 17 schedules with NCL being their first release I believe.
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