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Several B737-800 aircraft currently with Fly Dubai have been arranged via the lessor to be used by Ryanair over the summer period !
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Isn't it about time FR reviewed their presence in Northern Ireland. Yes, they have a base in Londonderry, but Belfast is crying out for flights to certain destinations. Take LPA, the only flight from Belfast next Summer if TOM and that is only available to book with a package holiday. If FR can't / won't base a/c in Belfast they could at least operate some flights from European bases into BFS.
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WINTER 2014/15 SCHEDULE RELEASED
Winter schedule revealed for Stansted and I think maybe a couple of other routes.
Probably to do with Ryanair's improved customer service, the winter schedule is very early this year.
First time ever to my knowledge that Ryanair have released ahead of EasyJet, who so I've been told will release theirs in mid April.
Probably to do with Ryanair's improved customer service, the winter schedule is very early this year.
First time ever to my knowledge that Ryanair have released ahead of EasyJet, who so I've been told will release theirs in mid April.
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I know the 737-400s are definitely on the cards, but I don't know how many, or from where they are coming (or on what sort of basis they will be operated). Can anyone shed any light?
I anticipate the confusion is with the thinking that RYR crews will fly these a/c. I doubt that: I assume they will be wet leased. One question is why. There are varying dates for the next tranche of -800's arriving. If it will be 2015, and it was known in advance, then why design a business plan and schedule that you can't deliver without outside help; which may or may not have been forth-coming. Could be risky. If 2016 is the next -800 date then do RYR plan this lease operation for the next 2 years? Even more risky. If the -400 a/c are wet leased, and depending from whom, I wonder how the crews might react to the RYR roster. I've been involved with a/c having wet leased a/c in where the crews retained their own contractual conditions. It was chaotic for rostering and flight scheduling. It was necessary to make a little airline within an airline. Packages of routes from fixed bases etc.
Someone must be in the know.
I anticipate the confusion is with the thinking that RYR crews will fly these a/c. I doubt that: I assume they will be wet leased. One question is why. There are varying dates for the next tranche of -800's arriving. If it will be 2015, and it was known in advance, then why design a business plan and schedule that you can't deliver without outside help; which may or may not have been forth-coming. Could be risky. If 2016 is the next -800 date then do RYR plan this lease operation for the next 2 years? Even more risky. If the -400 a/c are wet leased, and depending from whom, I wonder how the crews might react to the RYR roster. I've been involved with a/c having wet leased a/c in where the crews retained their own contractual conditions. It was chaotic for rostering and flight scheduling. It was necessary to make a little airline within an airline. Packages of routes from fixed bases etc.
Someone must be in the know.
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From: Exit stage right.
If it will be 2015, and it was known in advance, then why design a business plan and schedule that you can't deliver without outside help; which may or may not have been forth-coming. Could be risky. If 2016 is the next -800 date then do RYR plan this lease operation for the next 2 years?
Boeing 737-800 Production List - Planespotters.net Just Aviation
When order made we discussed it on here (you in that one as well
) as I had suggested that Summer 2014 was always likely to be an issue with number of airframes available and possibility of need to lease some in.Think your point regarding crews if Wet leasing is valid. I would suggest that its likely to be on a fixed number of high frequency routes due to both engineering support and pilot location...........the list is 5-6 locations.
Funny feeling that Interiors on new 738s may be different............don't know just a gut feeling that FR will pull another rabbit out of a hat.
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From: Northern Ireland
If it will be 2015, and it was known in advance, then why design a business plan and schedule that you can't deliver without outside help; which may or may not have been forth-coming. Could be risky.
A valid question but I would say a strategic move to
1. Keep Vueling in its place as the loco goes from strength to strength
2. Realisation that to maintain growth, especially in lean winter period business orientated operations like MXP FCO and BRU were needed, they didn't want to be coming late to the party when Vueling was established at some of these.
I would suggest management direction was make it happen.
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Yeah go along with that.
Sometime its like in the lift on the way to the bar, plan is meeting up the lads all set for an evening out with a meal and a stunner walks into the lift and says she knows nobody and do you know a good restaurant...............nope never happened to me either
Yeah go along with that.
Sometime its like in the lift on the way to the bar, plan is meeting up the lads all set for an evening out with a meal and a stunner walks into the lift and says she knows nobody and do you know a good restaurant...............nope never happened to me either
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From: Ireland
Plenty of route increases, continuation of new routes launching for S14 plus new daily service to Cologne/Bonn.
Ryanair Launches Dublin Winter 2014 Schedule
Ryanair Launches Dublin Winter 2014 Schedule
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I know the 737-400s are definitely on the cards, but I don't know how many, or from where they are coming (or on what sort of basis they will be operated). Can anyone shed any light?
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Really dumping up the fleet age in DUB. Any idea if they'll be flying set routes?