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Re UA100 / 101
I've done this trip three times in 2013 in Business First so I can't comment on the back end but I have to say I have been surprised at the number of people in C Class.
The lowest number of empty seats on my trips has been 3 - at the back of the C cabin, think there's an issue with lie flat on some of these, but not sure.
Also surprised at how most of these C pax seem to be Americans rather than Brits - judging by accents alone of course.
I've done this trip three times in 2013 in Business First so I can't comment on the back end but I have to say I have been surprised at the number of people in C Class.
The lowest number of empty seats on my trips has been 3 - at the back of the C cabin, think there's an issue with lie flat on some of these, but not sure.
Also surprised at how most of these C pax seem to be Americans rather than Brits - judging by accents alone of course.
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United airlines flight 101 to washington cancelled yet again, getting bit
worried about this now as i fly this route in October and notice this is the
second flight to be cancelled in the space of 2 weeks, does anyone know what the
loads are like for this flight? could this be the reason for cancellations?.
The UA100 was cancelled but a re-scheduled UA1748 is due from IAD into MAN at 23:30. Can be tracked on FR24 and is not long off the N.I coast.
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Re UA100/101
It's best not to read too much into the fact that the premium cabin is often full on US carriers. Frequent fliers get a bunch of free upgrade certificates, so they get to travel in Business even if they've bought an Economy ticket. This is particularly the case for US domestic flights ( where the premium cabins are always full in my experience, generally due to upgrades), but it also applies to transatlantics, where UA Mileage Plus members can use Global Premier Upgrades (GPUs) or Systemwide Upgrades (SWUs).
So a full J cabin on our UA (or indeed AA etc) services isn't necessarily an indication of good yields.
This would also explain why you've noticed a lot of Americans in the J cabin - they're the ones most likely to be using upgrade certificates.
It's best not to read too much into the fact that the premium cabin is often full on US carriers. Frequent fliers get a bunch of free upgrade certificates, so they get to travel in Business even if they've bought an Economy ticket. This is particularly the case for US domestic flights ( where the premium cabins are always full in my experience, generally due to upgrades), but it also applies to transatlantics, where UA Mileage Plus members can use Global Premier Upgrades (GPUs) or Systemwide Upgrades (SWUs).
So a full J cabin on our UA (or indeed AA etc) services isn't necessarily an indication of good yields.
This would also explain why you've noticed a lot of Americans in the J cabin - they're the ones most likely to be using upgrade certificates.
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Mouser I would love it to be LJLA but they have one route which is subsidised and in dire trouble down to twice weekly in October .
Would you base aircraft here in that situation I think not,all will be revealed with the base anouncement .
Would you base aircraft here in that situation I think not,all will be revealed with the base anouncement .
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Heathrow Harry careful what you say as Liverpool guys take no prisoners lol!
I thought KLM was always a Fokker 70 anyway
Chaps
I thought KLM was always a Fokker 70 anyway
Chaps
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Heathrow Harry !
Even as a Mancunian living in exile (Northolt outer marker within a few yards of front door!) that is utter rubbish !
Liverpool retains substantial Auto manufacturing and Runcorn petrochemicals industries are 15 minutes from LPL.
Inward Tourism is among the highest in the UK (4th for International Visitors!)
Major attractions Beatles and Docks and some leading Arts Galleries and Museums.
Even as a Mancunian living in exile (Northolt outer marker within a few yards of front door!) that is utter rubbish !
Liverpool retains substantial Auto manufacturing and Runcorn petrochemicals industries are 15 minutes from LPL.
Inward Tourism is among the highest in the UK (4th for International Visitors!)
Major attractions Beatles and Docks and some leading Arts Galleries and Museums.
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I have no hard evidence to back this up, but anecdotally I'm fairly sure Liverpool has a much higher international recognition and appeal than manchester, certainly in places like the USA and China. Doesn't Liverpool have the oldest Chinese population in Europe?
As someone said 4th most visited city, only surprise is its not 2nd or 3rd ...
The problem is not that Liverpool doesn't have the market it's just Manchester has the first mover advantage ...
As someone said 4th most visited city, only surprise is its not 2nd or 3rd ...
The problem is not that Liverpool doesn't have the market it's just Manchester has the first mover advantage ...
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Manchester does actually have a much larger incoming tourism market than
Liverpool.
Rutankrd I most have swapped with you as I was born in just about the same
place as you live
Chaps
Liverpool.
Rutankrd I most have swapped with you as I was born in just about the same
place as you live
Chaps
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TOM183 787 divert???
I saw today's 787 flight from Cancun was on a hold over merseyside earlier, but it then seemed to look as though it had diverted to Gatwick, and is now showing as arriving in MAN at 1143 roughly. Anyone know why it would divert when it was so close to MAN anyway?
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Liverpool just isn't a major destination - not much high end industry, very limited tourism
Really its just a bucket & spade airport for Merseysiders to go to the sun
Really its just a bucket & spade airport for Merseysiders to go to the sun
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