MANCHESTER - 9

[kieb92]

Mahan Air have just announced 3 weekly Tehran to Gatwick using A310/A340. I wonder if Manchester would be reconsidered?

Aviator ? Aviator signs contract with Mahan Air

[ATNotts]

Mahan Air have just announced 3 weekly Tehran to Gatwick using A310/A340. I wonder if Manchester would be reconsidered?

More likely BHX, if they wanted more than one UK arrival point, given that they served it successfully for some time, until international politics intervened - again.

My guess however is that having apparently gained usable slots at LGW, they're more likely to concentrate on the London market that move north this time. in fact reading the very short release from Aviator that would appear to be the plan; LGW with first diversion option being BHX - though why they should put this into the release seems a little strange to me - any they planning diversions?

[TURIN]

With the demise of Little Red, does anyone here know whether BA will be increasing MAN-LHR flights to compensate?

[LN-KGL]

Not likely if the loads were like the Little Red I flew with from MAN to LHR in late July 2013 (16 paying souls on board).

[cornishsimon]

Might see an overall increase in BA seats I suppose by scheduling more A320/321 instead of 319s.


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[TURIN]

I just wondered if the early morning flights were carrying good loads BA may need an extra nightstopper.

[The96er]

I just wondered if the early morning flights were carrying good loads BA may need an extra nightstopper.

There are planned to be 2 BA nightstoppers per night for the Winter schedule except Friday nights and then from 24th Nov onwards on Mondays and Tuesdays, there will be 3 night stoppers. Summer 2015 schedule has not been finalized yet.

[Bagso]

Talking of Shuttles BA have canx 10% of all Heathrow Arrivals tomorrow.....

Tonight's quiz. ..which flights will be cancelled ?

[MANFOD]

I assume it's the forecast strong winds that have caused BA to cancel flights.

When that wind swings round to North Westerly, I see potential big problems for MAN if gusts reach 30-45 mph for R23 even if it's dry by then.

BHX is better placed with R33, and what happens at LHR on 27s will depend on any windsheer, how strong the gusts are etc. Likely to affect rate of arrivals though I imagine.

All if the forecast proves accurate of course.

[Bagso]

The 1325 and 1520 shuttles canx today following a specific request from Heathrow Airport and NATs to cancel 10% of all Heathrow flights.

Scrolling down the arrivals at LHR (as at 0800) it seems specific to BA, as the largest operator no other flights (Other than LH strike are affected).

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Not sure BMI Regional will be feeding LHR anytime soon !

http://www.incentivetravel.co.uk/new...s-bmi-regional

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and finally The China Forum presents some major opportunities for Chinese investors in Manchester !

https://bdaily.co.uk/entrepreneurshi...olio-in-china/

Fantastic BUT if it is nailed on without specifics, why not be much more positive and say

"..and soon there WILL be direct flights to Beijing as well Hong Kong "



Gavin

With reference your comments and the China Forum above, my concern is that the Manchester Forum was partially part of the driving force in terms of this agenda for amending the UK - China bi lateral, I agree "if" there is an opportunity to include STN then MAG will no doubt grasp the opportunity BUT it still introduces a degree of risk, something that would not have occurred if the MAN route was ringfenced.

So is It ?

Given the lack of announcement negotiations do indeed appear to be MAG versus X as opposed to Manchester versus X.

If the charges for MAN are "XYZ" what happens if an airline now chooses to play one off against the other?

I assume charges at MAN are set at a commercial level, is this the case at STN given it has no long haul network ?

Will charges at STN be discretionary in light of this or is the CAA ruling still in force ?

Could this not put MAG in same position as the BAA with one airport being seen to effectively cross subsidize another ?
Not sure what the position is now on this one

I sincerely hope that everytime there is a potential new entrant to Manchester or a proposed route expansion we are not going to have STN hang onto Manchester's shirt tail although I suspect we will !

[sarah19981]

Cathay pacific and Hainan

I guess the loads are brillant for cathay pacific for the first 2 months with flights coming into manchester overbooked on the first week. Let's see what cathay does now?

Also any further news on hainan to finish this jigsaw of before a announcement??. Also I inboxed them on Facebook this morning and there reply was " thank you for reaching out to us, but we do not have any further developments with the flights to manchester. We know the same as publicly known, also you will surely be one of our special inbox requesters for a direct message from us once we can start offering flights to manchester- Beijing"

Now I didn't mension beijing but ok...
Seems there's deffinetly something holding a announcement back!

[VickersVicount]

...I think youre reading too much into a call centre social media operator comments. Did you expect them to suggest Chengdu instead of Beijing ?

[sarah19981]

No but they gave it away!

[BasilBush]

Bagso

Charges at STN are no longer regulated by CAA - it was removed from price control in April and is now in the same situation as MAN. So it can charge what it chooses, subject to compliance with general competition law (which obviously applies to any airport).

As for any 'cross subsidy' I really don't think this arises. Both airports are highly profitable so I don't think there can be any suggestion of cross subsidy.

[Fairdealfrank]

Not sure BMI Regional will be feeding LHR anytime soon !

Clearly not under present circumstances, it was only suggested as a possibility with another rwy. With expansion, everything changes.

[kieb92]

Manchester Airport Winter 2014 summary has been released. W14 looking better than W13.

Main points:

- DL still down as 764
- Sunair increasing Gothenburg and Billund
- Some SAS decreases
- SN Brussels all A319
- Thomson - New winter to Kuusamo and general increase to most winter destinations

Most other points have been previously reported:

http://www.acl-uk.org/UserFiles/File...ason%20W14.pdf

[MANFlyer]

Flights selling well, yield is well in line with expectations, and, discussions for daily flights are already taking place, but, thus far, aircraft availability is holding that back.

Wow, no wonder you've got a fan club on here LAX_LHR. When you are now at the stage where you are trying to make it look like you've got access so deep inside an international airline based 6000 miles away that you know what their yield is, on a route that hasn't even started yet, then that really is impressive.

Give it a rest for gods sake, you're making yourself look very silly.

[spannersatcx]

And remember bookings don't always mean a sale!

[LAX_LHR]

Wow MANflyer,


Did it take you the whole 8 days to come up with that post?




And to think you called me silly.
Wierdo.

[sarah19981]

I totally agree with lax_lhr!
Man flyers just picking for a fight!