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Helvetic
jonnychips Helvetic operate the BHX-ZRH service on behalf of LX and offer full LX service on board. They do not operate flights in their own right (unlike BRS-ZRH) and therefore only bookable with LX flight numbers on LX website. I ahve used them from BHX on numerous occasions to connect with mainline LX at ZRH and never had a problem. I suppose the only worrying thing is that LX don't seem very interested in using their own metal into BHX and now MAN although that probably bothers the spotters more tha those who actually fly the route!
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Swiss/TAP/Delta
The summer 2013 schedules are very volatile at present and whether Helvetic turn up is anyones guess. On another thread it states OLT have lost the Swiss contract and that might alter matters although to be fair BHX's OLT always ended with the start of the summer schedules - back to a RJ100.
An F100 would be quite a loss of seats but looking brighter elsewhere with the Delta A332 to Atlanta and TAP going 10 weekly from June as well as the increases on Turkish. The US Air shows as the A333 again in June but the American ORD a 757.
I don't remember the press release about TAP but I can't say I follow all the goings on at Manchester but I am surprised that one slipped past me.
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An F100 would be quite a loss of seats but looking brighter elsewhere with the Delta A332 to Atlanta and TAP going 10 weekly from June as well as the increases on Turkish. The US Air shows as the A333 again in June but the American ORD a 757.
I don't remember the press release about TAP but I can't say I follow all the goings on at Manchester but I am surprised that one slipped past me.
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Thanks for the explanation why I can't find it on Helvetic's website. The annoying thing is that there used to be an early-ish morning flight at about 0900 last year which connected to a BCN flight getting you there by 1415. Business class was reasonably priced and a bit of a treat to start and finish the holiday. This flight either no longer exists, does not connect or is slower - I haven't looked yet.
So I thought I'd 'slum' it with Ryanair to Girona from Donny (only joking used this route five times return, no problem), until I saw the flight back from Girona is at some ungodly hour in the morning, meaning I'd have to leave my hotel at about 0300.
So I'll have to have a good look at other airlines from MAN. Unfortunately the direct Monarch flight is just slightly too early to connect with the earliest train from Donny.
Olton Pete wrote:
So do you think I should hang on for a bit?
Helvetic
jonnychips Helvetic operate the BHX-ZRH service on behalf of LX and offer full LX service on board. They do not operate flights in their own right (unlike BRS-ZRH) and therefore only bookable with LX flight numbers on LX website. I ahve used them from BHX on numerous occasions to connect with mainline LX at ZRH and never had a problem. I suppose the only worrying thing is that LX don't seem very interested in using their own metal into BHX and now MAN although that probably bothers the spotters more tha those who actually fly the route!
jonnychips Helvetic operate the BHX-ZRH service on behalf of LX and offer full LX service on board. They do not operate flights in their own right (unlike BRS-ZRH) and therefore only bookable with LX flight numbers on LX website. I ahve used them from BHX on numerous occasions to connect with mainline LX at ZRH and never had a problem. I suppose the only worrying thing is that LX don't seem very interested in using their own metal into BHX and now MAN although that probably bothers the spotters more tha those who actually fly the route!
So I thought I'd 'slum' it with Ryanair to Girona from Donny (only joking used this route five times return, no problem), until I saw the flight back from Girona is at some ungodly hour in the morning, meaning I'd have to leave my hotel at about 0300.
So I'll have to have a good look at other airlines from MAN. Unfortunately the direct Monarch flight is just slightly too early to connect with the earliest train from Donny.
Olton Pete wrote:
The summer 2013 schedules are very volatile at present and whether Helvetic turn up is anyone,s guess.
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The morning LX flight to ZRH remains at 0840 ( for summer), however this does not connect well to BCN, about 5 hour connection. The 0840 is planned for Helvetic F100 ops. The F100s are fairly elderley, but very comfortable, & the crew offer the same LX service.
In the past I have done MAN-BCN with BA, LX , LH & KL. KLM probably have the most / best connections. BA has been my worst connecting experience.
Numerous times, KLM have been cheaper than Monarch.
Monarch & Jet 2 offer direct flights (sometimes at silly prices) but timings are not always what you want.
Maybe we might get Veuling in one day, offering a later departure and/or return.
In the past I have done MAN-BCN with BA, LX , LH & KL. KLM probably have the most / best connections. BA has been my worst connecting experience.
Numerous times, KLM have been cheaper than Monarch.
Monarch & Jet 2 offer direct flights (sometimes at silly prices) but timings are not always what you want.
Maybe we might get Veuling in one day, offering a later departure and/or return.
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So I'll have to have a good look at other airlines from MAN. Unfortunately the direct Monarch flight is just slightly too early to connect with the earliest train from Donny
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I presume those saying that pax aren't bothered if a Helvetic F100 turns up instead of a LX Airbus are flying in Y and not J. The F100's are quite a step down from the LX metal and to say Helvetic crew are as good as Swiss crew also mystifies me. Granted it's only a short hop, but there is a world of difference between the two. I do the route regularly.
I agree with the comment about the competitive J fares on LX ex-MAN having disappeared. I am afraid this happened shortly after LH announced they were dropping some of their cheaper short haul J fares. I've started having to fly BA more....
I agree with the comment about the competitive J fares on LX ex-MAN having disappeared. I am afraid this happened shortly after LH announced they were dropping some of their cheaper short haul J fares. I've started having to fly BA more....
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In some ways Y on a F100 is better than on an A319/320. If there are two of you travelling you can sit on the 2 side and avoid the usual squabble over who has to take a middle seat!
Anecdotally LX seem to be going for yield as opposed to volume. European connections through ZRH used to be very competitively priced - generally lower than other indirect routings - but now seem to be higher. And some of the long haul J class bargains also seem to have gone.
Anecdotally LX seem to be going for yield as opposed to volume. European connections through ZRH used to be very competitively priced - generally lower than other indirect routings - but now seem to be higher. And some of the long haul J class bargains also seem to have gone.
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I've seen on BHX thread there is talk of Emirates upgrading to a 2nd daily A380. Anyone knowhow likely this is, which flight would be upgraded (I'd much prefer the morning departure) and any timescales. I understand Emirates are due to take delivery of 2 more A380's next week.
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The understanding is the evening Manchester departure (EK020) from the autumn of 2013.
This connects with the onward departures to Australia and the sub continent, and the Middle East regional flights
This connects with the onward departures to Australia and the sub continent, and the Middle East regional flights
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Been busy. Thanks for all replies.
The first train from Donny gets in at 0730ish, but if you need to be quicker you can get off at Stockport and take a taxi for about £15, which will deliver you to terminal door. Never thought about Leeds/Bradford as I always take public transport, and just expect this will be inconvenient.
I assume the Helvetica flight will be a bit slower using the Fokker than the previous Swiss Airbus so won't connect. There used to be a Swiss/BMI flight via Basel, but that's gone.
Not worried about a smaller plane's capacity to offer business-class service: indeed I got a Swiss RJ from Basel to Barcelona on the second leg of my journey from MAN once and got great meals and champagne all the way. Might be something to do with the fact that the only other business-class passenger was obviously a Swiss executive - still, serendipity!
How about Jet2, they're fairly early from MAN, don't know how they compare to MON's timings, or if you're coming over from Donny what about looking at flights from Leeds Bradford?
I assume the Helvetica flight will be a bit slower using the Fokker than the previous Swiss Airbus so won't connect. There used to be a Swiss/BMI flight via Basel, but that's gone.
Not worried about a smaller plane's capacity to offer business-class service: indeed I got a Swiss RJ from Basel to Barcelona on the second leg of my journey from MAN once and got great meals and champagne all the way. Might be something to do with the fact that the only other business-class passenger was obviously a Swiss executive - still, serendipity!
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Technical issue, however not an emergency, but enough for them to want it sorting before they headed across the pond. It circled the hold for nearly an hour and half burning fuel before it actually made it into MAN !
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Finnair
I have just booked MAN to SIN on Finnair, and note from the confirmation supplied that the MAN - HEL leg departing 17:50 is operated by Flybe. However I can't see that Flybe operate between MAN and HEL so I wonder, is this flight operated using Flybe or Finnair aircraft?
Interestingly the ticket was very materially cheaper than the equivalent Singapore Airlines option, so a 75 minute layover in HEL seems a small price to pay for what is a considerable saving.
Interestingly the ticket was very materially cheaper than the equivalent Singapore Airlines option, so a 75 minute layover in HEL seems a small price to pay for what is a considerable saving.
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Its operated by FLYBE Nordic subsidiary and is NOT a codeshare.
FLYBE Nordic operate two EMB 170s in full Finnair colours and crew the EMB190s under a rather complex ACML lease back arrangement where the Finnair owned aircraft operate Finnair flights but on the FLYBE Nordic AOC !
FLYBE Nordic operate two EMB 170s in full Finnair colours and crew the EMB190s under a rather complex ACML lease back arrangement where the Finnair owned aircraft operate Finnair flights but on the FLYBE Nordic AOC !
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Just had a look at some info on a new livery for Afriqiyah Airways and it says that at the bottom that they plan to start direct services to Manchester once they are allowed in EU airspace. Sounds interesting:
PICTURE: Afriqiyah Airways unveils new livery
PICTURE: Afriqiyah Airways unveils new livery