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Old 10th Dec 2014, 21:27
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Future of DSA

I've just been looking at the passenger statistics for DSA this year and so far and to my bewilderment 700 MP have been handled so far. This implies that DSA has done better than in 2012 and 2013 (693 million for 2013 I believe)

This made me think hard about the future development and growth for the airport. As we all know it has great facilities for future airlines much better than LBIA for example (parallel taxiway, superior runway length/arrangement etc)

With the HS2 rail coming into place in the 2020/2030's Doncaster will be in a 1hr and 10 minute attaining distance from London. Transiting from Doncaster train station to DSA can be reached in less than 30 minutes via the Doncaster bus interchange, taxi and car. This did really make me think.

The terminal can currently handle 2.5 million pax so what does this imply? Good facilities, good transport links and overall itís in a good location.
With Londonís airports almost being over capacitated and a significant demand for a new super hub airport canít DSA be that airport? Thinking about it logically, it will be in easy reaching distance from the south. Domestic/connecting flights can be enforced and it will save billions of tax payers money in developing a brand new airport for example in the Thames Estuary. It will be less distance than flying or commuting via rail to Manchester and also with Sheffield, Leeds and Wakefield being commercialised trading cities, there could be business passenger demand for Scheduled flights from the north as well as the south.

Itís perhaps me over thinking this but do you guys think thereís some potential here?
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Old 10th Dec 2014, 23:12
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In your scenario why not just use MAN for the northern super hub?
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Old 10th Dec 2014, 23:57
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Yes Manchester has the terminal capacity to handle way more than it currently does but what about its current struggling and limited aircraft movements per hour? You'd just be back to square 1 with airlines refusing to pay silly money for slots like at LHR for example. I truly believe that slot issues at LHR with BA are the reason BA have started a route at LBA. Pretty much not a profitable route but more or less to get the aircraft out of LHR avoiding paying slot periods (£X,000,000's) which probably costs more than flying the aircraft to LBA and back at stupid/illogical times with a low load factor/pax on board. Now that wouldn't suprise me if anything but... that's good and clever business method for you. I'm sorry but if I wanted to go to London from Leeds i'd take the East Coast rail service which runs every 20 minutes to Kings Cross and I think anybody else would. Sorry to go off topic but that route they're running just really makes me wonder.

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Old 11th Dec 2014, 06:29
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In what way has MAN got a
current struggling and limited aircraft movements per hour
?

Approx 57 movements per hour is the current maximum with ultimate capacity being something like 70 to 75 per hour. This morning, there's approx 105 movements from 0600 through to 0859 scheduled. Throw in an extra 20 movements to allow for increased summer schedules and it's 125. 36 movements 0700-0759 today so even allowing for all the 20 extra summer movements to happen in that hour (extremely unlikely) still leaves room for 1 more movement.
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Old 11th Dec 2014, 09:01
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Nothing will change!

Matching airport against airport is futile. HST will probably improve the prospects of EVERY airport that can possibly benefit from the link. All this talk of a superhub is just that. For very many reasons I can't ever see that becoming a reality. It isn't just airport capacity that you have to take into account, it is road transport capacity, etc. etc. Neither can I see the current status quo changing in the foreseeable future either. DSA will probably continue to slowly grow because the link road (which TUI have been looking over recently) makes the airport more accessible to anyone within easy reach of the M1, but if you look at what the three airports have got ...MAN = size (size matters) LBA has possession of routes and pax (possession=9/10ths of the law!) and then there is DSA which has seen a slow rise in pax recently and a sudden rise in cargo flights ... and Timmy W as a supporter! Oh well! Can't win 'em all ...
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Old 13th Dec 2014, 09:33
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Seems Timmy W was a little economical with the truth when telling everyone of the "email" he received regarding linksair stopping flights from DSA, this from their twitter feed

LinksAir ‏@LinksAir Dec 11
@dwest198000 yes we will have flights from DSA next year with our two existing routes & looking at what may work for the future @DSA_Airport

@SamCEllis yes we are still operating DSA to Belfast & will continue to do so. Flights break during January due low demand & return February
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Old 13th Dec 2014, 11:40
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Yet when you try to book DSA -BHD in February and onwards their site shows either SOLD OUT or No AVAILABLE SEATS. I haven't seen one day when I can book!
Either they are doing fantastically well or something odd is happening.
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Old 17th Dec 2014, 11:05
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Thomson have extended their contract for the long term at DSA. No exact figures on the number of years.
Good positive news, and hopefully will see an increase in routes from 2016.
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Old 22nd Dec 2014, 11:08
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Timmy W's mates are getting slow of informing him lately New flights announced from Robin Hood Airport - Doncaster Free Press
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Old 30th Dec 2014, 23:16
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Links Air

Hopefully Links Air will return to the airport and that this is not just a prelude to them withdrawing completely:

Links Air to temporarily suspend Isle of Man, Belfast flights - ch-aviation.com

The reason makes sense at least, they are down to just 2 functioning aircraft (G-JIBO and G-LNKS) so if one needs a C-Check then the money from the WAG for the Anglesey to Cardiff route pretty much decides which one gets the chop.

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Old 1st Jan 2015, 15:04
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I don't quite see how Links Air will suspend Jan / Feb flights to the IOM bearing in mind that they have none scheduled anyway...
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Old 1st Jan 2015, 15:10
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We've known about this for a while. It's nothing new.
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 18:17
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Wizz Kosice-Donacaster was announced today (2x weekly from 16SEP).
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 19:39
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Links Air have announced a new service between Cardiff and Norwich in the last couple of days (bookable from late April. Hopefully their promise of returning to Donny will come into fruition.
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 20:14
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Wizz Kosice-Donacaster was announced today (2x weekly from 16SEP).
Interesting. Perhaps they have researched that Slovakian migrants are from the east of that country, or perhaps they feel Bratislava is already over served.
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 23:04
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Kosice is underserved with only Vienna, Bratislava and Prague flights by other operators. Besides KSC might attract hungarians (and even ukrainians ?) living in the neighbouring area as well.
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 17:07
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The airport have submitted plans to Doncaster council to extend the terminal building. Very surprising as a lot of the terminal is mothballed because it isn't currently in use, wonder why they are needing the extra space........?
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Old 3rd Feb 2015, 19:02
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It's a much needed sheltered queuing area pre immigration, as since the place opened passengers have been forced to wait outside.
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 07:46
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DSA Arrivals Extension & Lounge

A quick look on DMBC planning portal, plans show sheltered access extension 43m x 7m built out towards the ramp & access into new arrivals lounge layout to the right of existing with two larger carousels. The existing arrivals route and carousels look to remain also.

Look to be planning for bigger things when the FARRS link road opens 2016 giving more direct access from A1/M18
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Old 4th Feb 2015, 12:40
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G-FORZ, I can't see a plan in there for any new arrivals rejigging other than the sheltered entrance. Are you sure you're not mistaking the 'new' carousels for the existing outbound hold luggage security screening and loading area?

I don't believe this is an extension plan in anticipation of large step growth, more to improve the existing customer experience..
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