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Image of Said OLT fokker 100 on Southend Airport's twitter page Twitter / SouthendAirport: We had our first OLT Express ...
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Anyone have figures for todays Dresden flight?
Also would somebody be able to provide me the arrive and departure times for the flights from Saarbrucken and Dresden tomorrow please as might go down to have a look at the F100's.
Also would somebody be able to provide me the arrive and departure times for the flights from Saarbrucken and Dresden tomorrow please as might go down to have a look at the F100's.
stluke - anal though it may be, if you want flight arrival and departure times, could I suggest visiting the OLT Express website ? There's a little drop down at the top right of the page allowing you to switch to English rather than German (just to the right of the word Deutsch)
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Great start to saarbrucken flight. Is showing as diverted to Stuttgart. ?? reason.
Outbound from SEN listed as indefinite delay. So much for German efficiency. Is this airline a joke or what.
Outbound from SEN listed as indefinite delay. So much for German efficiency. Is this airline a joke or what.
I had assumed it diverted to Stuttgart due to a tech problem after departure SCN, possibly to change aircraft at their engineering base. It's now shown with an ETA SEN of 1230L, so maybe they are rectifying the defect on the original aircraft.
That's odd because it's now shown with an ETA SEN of 1100Z, which is backed up by it being shown on the STR departures board with an ETD of 0930Z. OLT certainly keep everyone guessing and booking with them would never be a dull experience from what we've seen so far!
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According to the Stuttgart airport site the OLT is 'off stand' and is now a Saab, having arrived as a F100. So if it does turn up, one presumes the original flight wasn't too full.
Anyone know how busy yesterday and today's Dresden were?
Anyone know how busy yesterday and today's Dresden were?
Actually you couldn't have a clearer illustration today of how important it is to avoid getting a reputation as an unreliable airline. OLT could have avoided all the bad publicity with the DRS-SEN launch last Monday by simply biting the bullet and accepting the cost of operating the first three rotations whatever the pax number were.
If they had done that today's problems would have been looked at in isolation. The conclusion reached would probably have been that it was bad luck going tech after departure from SCN, that diverting to their engineering base was sensible and even that some delay was inevitable while they tried to rectify the fault. Having found they couldn't, they've substituted a Saab 2000 to operate the flight so it could be said they have done their best by their customers today.
As it is, it's a case of people thinking "here we go again, another launch day shambles". I hope someone within OLT may have learnt something in the past week.
If they had done that today's problems would have been looked at in isolation. The conclusion reached would probably have been that it was bad luck going tech after departure from SCN, that diverting to their engineering base was sensible and even that some delay was inevitable while they tried to rectify the fault. Having found they couldn't, they've substituted a Saab 2000 to operate the flight so it could be said they have done their best by their customers today.
As it is, it's a case of people thinking "here we go again, another launch day shambles". I hope someone within OLT may have learnt something in the past week.
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Southend certainly appears to be a Jonah airport for them.
Wonder if there is a little regret launching the service this time of year when there doesn't seem to be any demand.
I would have thought the best time to launch would be the spring.
Wonder if there is a little regret launching the service this time of year when there doesn't seem to be any demand.
I would have thought the best time to launch would be the spring.
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I'll say this and nothing more.
Your second and third lines make good sense.
Your first line doesn't; it's more a case of OLT being SEN's Jonah airline surely. Name me one thing about SEN which caused any of this week's problems? Of course, you'll come back all innocence saying "When did I ever say anything detrimental about SEN?"
Oops, I've forgotten my own rule about feeding the Trolls.
I'll say this and nothing more.
Your second and third lines make good sense.
Your first line doesn't; it's more a case of OLT being SEN's Jonah airline surely. Name me one thing about SEN which caused any of this week's problems? Of course, you'll come back all innocence saying "When did I ever say anything detrimental about SEN?"
Oops, I've forgotten my own rule about feeding the Trolls.
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LTNman was right in his 3rd point.
I have thought there was little to gain launching the OLT service this side of Xmas.
The airline and the airport had zilch to gain.
I think SEN would be well withing their rights to stop this ridiculous OLT circus.
Even if OLT do send a plane or two, it will IMO be history by July 2013,
Get rid of OLT, I doubt they will be missed.
LTNman was right in his 3rd point.
I have thought there was little to gain launching the OLT service this side of Xmas.
The airline and the airport had zilch to gain.
I think SEN would be well withing their rights to stop this ridiculous OLT circus.
Even if OLT do send a plane or two, it will IMO be history by July 2013,
Get rid of OLT, I doubt they will be missed.
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"Wonder if there is a little regret launching the service this time of year when there don’t seem to be any demand"
"Your second and third lines make good sense"
Really ... that there's no such word as "doesn't" in the English language anymore?
Reading this business of OLT, you mean, just as one example, when Easyjet started out of LTN on Air Foyle's AOC everything ran smoothly and, as another example, BA never had/have an aircraft on shuttle reserve in event of a technical problem?
Alas, it seems, this SEN thread had become a thread for the spotters, the rubberneckers, online logging in to these flight tracker, or whatever, websites. The travelling public don't frequent such flight tracker websites nor forums such as this thus no reputation has been damaged until yet and will only get talked about, in the passenger world rather than the spotter world, if it becomes something worthy of talking about.
Amen
"Your second and third lines make good sense"
Really ... that there's no such word as "doesn't" in the English language anymore?
Reading this business of OLT, you mean, just as one example, when Easyjet started out of LTN on Air Foyle's AOC everything ran smoothly and, as another example, BA never had/have an aircraft on shuttle reserve in event of a technical problem?
Alas, it seems, this SEN thread had become a thread for the spotters, the rubberneckers, online logging in to these flight tracker, or whatever, websites. The travelling public don't frequent such flight tracker websites nor forums such as this thus no reputation has been damaged until yet and will only get talked about, in the passenger world rather than the spotter world, if it becomes something worthy of talking about.
Amen
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Really ... that there's no such word as "doesn't" in the English language anymore?
Your first line doesn't; it's more a case of OLT being SEN's Jonah airline surely.
You've lost me there Phileas.
In fairness to LTNman he does "make sense" when he says that a mid-October launch (with little time for marketing and without an effective website) might be regretted by OLT. Also the best time to launch would surely have been next Spring, as he suggests.
Regarding your assertion that "no reputation has been damaged until(?) yet .... ", this overlooks the large spread with photo in Die Welt when the inaugural DRS-SEN was cancelled, and maybe elsewhere in the mainstream media.. Perhaps the good folk of Dresden don't read that newspaper.
Amen indeed, especially as it's apparently OK to say "until yet", but not "don't" instead of "doesn't". Hey ho.
To get back to facts, the SB2000 seems to be night-stopping SEN with the return SCN cancelled. Reportedly 28 pax on the inbound.
In fairness to LTNman he does "make sense" when he says that a mid-October launch (with little time for marketing and without an effective website) might be regretted by OLT. Also the best time to launch would surely have been next Spring, as he suggests.
Regarding your assertion that "no reputation has been damaged until(?) yet .... ", this overlooks the large spread with photo in Die Welt when the inaugural DRS-SEN was cancelled, and maybe elsewhere in the mainstream media.. Perhaps the good folk of Dresden don't read that newspaper.
Amen indeed, especially as it's apparently OK to say "until yet", but not "don't" instead of "doesn't". Hey ho.
To get back to facts, the SB2000 seems to be night-stopping SEN with the return SCN cancelled. Reportedly 28 pax on the inbound.
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Oh dear, the story hits the UK press Question mark over Southend Airport's German flights (From Echo)