bmiBaby threads (merged)
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There are still seats that need to be sold out of both BHX and EMA between now and early September. The world will carry on, and baby is still in business and for the time being still flying aircraft.
Just not to BHD, at least not after June 11. Before accusing me of being a heartless heap of s..., could anyone who has not read my previous post about job loss, please do so.
To me, there are 2 major issues here.
The first, and most important, is the plight of WW employees facing a very uncertain future.
The second, and I make no apologies for saying this, is the plight of the thousands of NI holidaymakers who have had their flights cancelled at short notice.
Is bmibaby seriously trying to re-accommodate them on flights out of Birmingham and East Midlands? Surely, they should have rights to seats before they are sold to other passengers?
It also seems bizarre to me that a company which already operates two airlines BA and Iberia, can take over two more airlines - bmi and bmibaby, and then tell bmibaby passengers they are cancelling their flights at short notice and they cannot be accommodated on any flights operated by BA, Iberia or bmi.
I'm sure my point of view is very simplistic, and there are many reasons why IAG can offer no help to these people other than a refund, but to me it's strange.
Just not to BHD, at least not after June 11. Before accusing me of being a heartless heap of s..., could anyone who has not read my previous post about job loss, please do so.
To me, there are 2 major issues here.
The first, and most important, is the plight of WW employees facing a very uncertain future.
The second, and I make no apologies for saying this, is the plight of the thousands of NI holidaymakers who have had their flights cancelled at short notice.
Is bmibaby seriously trying to re-accommodate them on flights out of Birmingham and East Midlands? Surely, they should have rights to seats before they are sold to other passengers?
It also seems bizarre to me that a company which already operates two airlines BA and Iberia, can take over two more airlines - bmi and bmibaby, and then tell bmibaby passengers they are cancelling their flights at short notice and they cannot be accommodated on any flights operated by BA, Iberia or bmi.
I'm sure my point of view is very simplistic, and there are many reasons why IAG can offer no help to these people other than a refund, but to me it's strange.
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Another crass & disrespectful e-mail from the new owners today. Rubbing more salt into the wounds. Saying that a buyer has been found for the regional business.
I am glad that there will be no further job losses in regional, but it just goes to show how unwanted baby really is!! It appears everyone has been looked after apart from poor baby staff.
I am glad that there will be no further job losses in regional, but it just goes to show how unwanted baby really is!! It appears everyone has been looked after apart from poor baby staff.
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Not true, there are a lot of mainline groundstaff who handled mainline,regional and baby who are in same position as you. It had and still is a bad time for many of the midland group staff from all departments.
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AGPwallah I dare say that the advertising had been booked and paid for some time ago. the agency whose job it is to implement the adverts will continue to do so until their client tells them to stop.
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They CAN do that - because the 'Conditions of Carriage' (the small print) that every pax signs says that they can. Provided they give more than the correct amount of notice and give a full refund - that is the end of it.
It's called 'capitalism'.
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It also seems bizarre to me that a company which already operates two airlines BA and Iberia, can take over two more airlines - bmi and bmibaby, and then tell bmibaby passengers they are cancelling their flights at short notice and they cannot be accommodated on any flights operated by BA, Iberia or bmi.
It's called 'capitalism'.
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People keep saying on this thread that if an airline gives two weeks' notice it does not have to re-route passengers. But that is incorrect. All giving the notice does is free the airline from paying additional compensation (250 euros etc.). The passenger still has the right under the EU directive to choose whether s/he wants re-routing or a refund.
I'm sorry to say that Peter Simpson, Managing Director of BMI has confirmed that BMIBaby will close on the 10th Sept 2012 as previously intimated.
There is still a tiny glimmer in that - "even at this very late stage, if a new and credible offer was received to acquire the bmibaby business, either in whole or part, IAG would readily enter discussions. " - but I would think such a buyer would already have shown themselves.
I very much hope all concerned can find new jobs as soon as possible.
There is still a tiny glimmer in that - "even at this very late stage, if a new and credible offer was received to acquire the bmibaby business, either in whole or part, IAG would readily enter discussions. " - but I would think such a buyer would already have shown themselves.
I very much hope all concerned can find new jobs as soon as possible.
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So someone is likely to step up to the plate now....
And buy what?
An airline with no winter programme, no engineers beyond the end of October and no AOC after the end of BMI, and likely no or few aircraft after BA have taken their pick.
I can see them forming an orderly queue at Donington hall!
And buy what?
An airline with no winter programme, no engineers beyond the end of October and no AOC after the end of BMI, and likely no or few aircraft after BA have taken their pick.
I can see them forming an orderly queue at Donington hall!
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Bmibaby's 737-500 have been withdrawn from use for scheduled services. However if a plane does go tech then they still can be used for backup. One 737-300 has also been withdrawn from service but permenately (ODSK)
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Bmibaby's 737-500 have been withdrawn from use for scheduled services. However if a p
Just an update on that one. SK is being fixed in the hangar, and the 500s are being used. One was just parked up for the day because there was no room on the apron. Both have flown in the last 2 days and are being rostered to for the forseeable future!!
Sunday 09 September - apologies for the shonky formatting
BHX 0600 AGP 0955 WW1031 AGP 1035 BHX 1245 WW1032
BHX 0645 PMI 1015 WW1843 PMI 1110 BHX 1250 WW1844
BHX 0650 MJV 1035 WW1757 MJV 1110 BHX 1300 WW1758
BHX 0700 ALC 1045 WW1041 ALC 1130 BHX 1315 WW1042
BHX 1350 BCN 1710 WW1881 BCN 1800 BHX 1935 WW1882
BHX 1450 FCO 1835 WW1541 FCO 1925 BHX 2120 WW1542
BHX 1630 NCE 1945 WW1529 NCE 2015 BHX 2135 WW1530
BHX 1715 PRG 2025 WW1081 PRG 2100 BHX 2215 WW1082
EMA 0600 PMI 0940 WW5427 PMI 1015 EMA 1155 WW5428
EMA 0635 DBV 1030 WW5671 DBV 1105 EMA 1315 WW5672
EMA 0645 ALC 1030 WW5965 ALC 1105 EMA 1255 WW5966
EMA 0655 IBZ 1035 WW5811 IBZ 1110 EMA 1250 WW5812
EMA 0700 CTA 1130 WW5581 CTA 1215 EMA 1450 WW5582
EMA 0705 MAH 1035 WW5031 MAH 1110 EMA 1245 WW5032
EMA 0710 AGP 1110 WW5327 AGP 1150 EMA 1350 WW5328
EMA 0855 FAO 1155 WW5531 FAO 1230 EMA 1535 WW5532
EMA 1225 NAP 1625 WW5553 NAP 1710 EMA 1920 WW5554
EMA 1320 JER 1425 WW5249 JER 1455 EMA 1605 WW5250
EMA 1325 FAO 1625 WW5533 FAO 1700 EMA 2000 WW5534
EMA 1345 BCN 1705 WW5541 BCN 1740 EMA 1915 WW5542
EMA 1535 ALC 1920 WW5967 ALC 1955 EMA 2145 WW5968
EMA 1605 AGP 2005 WW5329 AGP 2045 EMA 2245 WW5330
EMA 1630 VCE 1950 WW5911 VCE 2035 EMA 2200 WW5912
EMA 1630 PMI 2005 WW5429 PMI 2040 EMA 2225 WW5430
BHX 0600 AGP 0955 WW1031 AGP 1035 BHX 1245 WW1032
BHX 0645 PMI 1015 WW1843 PMI 1110 BHX 1250 WW1844
BHX 0650 MJV 1035 WW1757 MJV 1110 BHX 1300 WW1758
BHX 0700 ALC 1045 WW1041 ALC 1130 BHX 1315 WW1042
BHX 1350 BCN 1710 WW1881 BCN 1800 BHX 1935 WW1882
BHX 1450 FCO 1835 WW1541 FCO 1925 BHX 2120 WW1542
BHX 1630 NCE 1945 WW1529 NCE 2015 BHX 2135 WW1530
BHX 1715 PRG 2025 WW1081 PRG 2100 BHX 2215 WW1082
EMA 0600 PMI 0940 WW5427 PMI 1015 EMA 1155 WW5428
EMA 0635 DBV 1030 WW5671 DBV 1105 EMA 1315 WW5672
EMA 0645 ALC 1030 WW5965 ALC 1105 EMA 1255 WW5966
EMA 0655 IBZ 1035 WW5811 IBZ 1110 EMA 1250 WW5812
EMA 0700 CTA 1130 WW5581 CTA 1215 EMA 1450 WW5582
EMA 0705 MAH 1035 WW5031 MAH 1110 EMA 1245 WW5032
EMA 0710 AGP 1110 WW5327 AGP 1150 EMA 1350 WW5328
EMA 0855 FAO 1155 WW5531 FAO 1230 EMA 1535 WW5532
EMA 1225 NAP 1625 WW5553 NAP 1710 EMA 1920 WW5554
EMA 1320 JER 1425 WW5249 JER 1455 EMA 1605 WW5250
EMA 1325 FAO 1625 WW5533 FAO 1700 EMA 2000 WW5534
EMA 1345 BCN 1705 WW5541 BCN 1740 EMA 1915 WW5542
EMA 1535 ALC 1920 WW5967 ALC 1955 EMA 2145 WW5968
EMA 1605 AGP 2005 WW5329 AGP 2045 EMA 2245 WW5330
EMA 1630 VCE 1950 WW5911 VCE 2035 EMA 2200 WW5912
EMA 1630 PMI 2005 WW5429 PMI 2040 EMA 2225 WW5430
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Just over a week until they close . Looks like the last flight is a PMI-EMA flight. Then off go the aircraft to SNN or DUB most probably.
. Looks like the last flight is a PMI-EMA flight. Then off go the aircraft to SNN or DUB most probably.
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Any possibility of the aircraft heading to MoD St Athan?
I believe eCube Solutions also look after aircraft in storage. After a rate of 1 x aircraft a month its been quiet so could they be excpeting a few soon? Plenty of room to park them.
I believe eCube Solutions also look after aircraft in storage. After a rate of 1 x aircraft a month its been quiet so could they be excpeting a few soon? Plenty of room to park them.