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To be honest I am amazed this is causing so much butthurt amongst 2 or 3 people. The guy who posted the message clearly asked for feedback from wherever it was posted. So if people are not towing the line saying its a great idea they are whiney or "never happy". People are giving genuine feedback, some think Birmingham is a great idea because of the new facilities. Others dont think trekking to Birmingham for a 30 min flight from Birmingham to... dun dun dun Birmingham.. is a great idea. So what? That was surely the whole point in the message.. lol, Bizzarre.
Might I also add surely its not all about "spotters", I have no interest in taking plane numbers or any of that stuff. I would be interested in flying on an A300 though. It would even be considered by me if it was from Birmingham to somewhere else but Birmingham to Birmingham seems pointless to me. Hope that doesnt make any more people cry.
Might I also add surely its not all about "spotters", I have no interest in taking plane numbers or any of that stuff. I would be interested in flying on an A300 though. It would even be considered by me if it was from Birmingham to somewhere else but Birmingham to Birmingham seems pointless to me. Hope that doesnt make any more people cry.
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I remember when Stelios put on a enthusiasts flight from Luton when they started getting new aircraft.
Think it was a day trip to Amsterdam, free if I remember correctly to give the Pilots a few hours and the enthusiasts a new place to take pics!
Now that would be the way to do it IMHO.
Think it was a day trip to Amsterdam, free if I remember correctly to give the Pilots a few hours and the enthusiasts a new place to take pics!
Now that would be the way to do it IMHO.
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Stoneybridge,
Deep breaths, deep breaths..
,anyway its not just a new hangar its a new hangar twice the size of MANS MAEL
lol
Seriously though when the huge doors are open not much to look at..until the next two Fly Dubai 738s arrive next month for IFE work..yeehah
Well we don't have a lot else to shout about like you do up there you know
Deep breaths, deep breaths..
,anyway its not just a new hangar its a new hangar twice the size of MANS MAEL
lolSeriously though when the huge doors are open not much to look at..until the next two Fly Dubai 738s arrive next month for IFE work..yeehah
Well we don't have a lot else to shout about like you do up there you know
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What I think they should do for this trip as well is a Ramp tour of Birmingham before the flight as well They have done this from Manchester and Gatwick so why not Birmingham as well
They have done this from Manchester and Gatwick so why not Birmingham as well
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Centrefix, we don't need any help with this thanks. We're quite happy to offer this sort of flight to enthusiasts, but if you don't want to do it, then that's fine. Next time we simply won't bother and just fly the thing off to the desert without a backward look. We prefer looking forwards as a company not backwards.
It was only thanks to our head of PR who's something of a fan of the A300 himself that this is even happening.
If you want to go on the old girl before she is retired, then why does it matter where it's from? LGW or MAN aren't going anywhere, so it's hardly an end of the era for them and since the EOL stuff is happening at BHX, then it makes sense to base the aircraft there for this flight.
We aren't asking for any comments, the flight is there for you if you want. If you don't then that's your choice.
It was only thanks to our head of PR who's something of a fan of the A300 himself that this is even happening.
If you want to go on the old girl before she is retired, then why does it matter where it's from? LGW or MAN aren't going anywhere, so it's hardly an end of the era for them and since the EOL stuff is happening at BHX, then it makes sense to base the aircraft there for this flight.
We aren't asking for any comments, the flight is there for you if you want. If you don't then that's your choice.
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You are not looking for comments, That completely contradicts the ending of the letter lol.
ps. lol ericlday nice 
Anyway I digress, I am sure whoever goes up for a flight around Brum will enjoy it.
I must stress that no event is confirmed, and at this stage, I have been tasked simply with gauging the interest of the Enthusiast Community in attending this proposed event. If you would be interested in attending our Birmingham-based event in very late March, or very early April 2014, I would love to hear back from you with an idea on the numbers that you may be attending with. An idea on pricing would follow in due course, if the event is confirmed and we have finalised all of the appropriate arrangements.
I look forward to your responses, and thank you for your patience while we try to get something arranged. If you have friends that may be interested in the event, but may not be on my mailing list, I would appreciate you forwarding this e-mail to them, or sharing the proposal on any aviation forums you may use.
Thank you for your time.
Kind Regards
Toby Hillier
I look forward to your responses, and thank you for your patience while we try to get something arranged. If you have friends that may be interested in the event, but may not be on my mailing list, I would appreciate you forwarding this e-mail to them, or sharing the proposal on any aviation forums you may use.
Thank you for your time.
Kind Regards
Toby Hillier
Anyway I digress, I am sure whoever goes up for a flight around Brum will enjoy it.
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Sounds brilliant, loving the idea of it!
Maybe the the A300 could do a fly by over Luton with all of us lot on it, to bid farewell to all the staff who work at the HQ!
Hope they release the plans before Xmas, and will ask for that for my Chrimbo pressie!
Maybe the the A300 could do a fly by over Luton with all of us lot on it, to bid farewell to all the staff who work at the HQ!
Hope they release the plans before Xmas, and will ask for that for my Chrimbo pressie!
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A300 bye bye
I think it is a great idea, a VIP look around the new engineering facility and a flight on the old bird, a fly past at the MON home base would be great before a tour of the East Anglia the back to Brum, if the dates are good, I will consider this a good trip.
It will be fully booked with even people on stby regardless of where it originated. Why all the drama of the departure airport is beyond me. Well done MON for even thinking about such a trip.
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we don't need any help with this thanks
My initial post was my own opinion, whether it be taken as constructive (as intended) or not.
The friction arrived with input from people who make no secret they work for Monarch or have Luton marked as their location...
Get over it people
Not much of an enthusiast
Next time we simply won't bother
It's all about how you react to any response you see as negative and how you deal with it whilst maintaining your integrity.
I've been telling my kids recently that sometimes saying nothing is the best thing to do, unless what you have to say is constructive
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I met a lovely lady who had flown a group of enthisiasts last winter out to Friedrichshafen for the day in a 757. I think she said the flight was full, or pretty close.
Where could you take well over 300 A300 fans for the day and keep them all happy - Whipsnade Zoo!
Monarch seem to have missed a 'trick' it would seem! A 'Buster Bus Day!'.
Where could you take well over 300 A300 fans for the day and keep them all happy - Whipsnade Zoo!
Monarch seem to have missed a 'trick' it would seem! A 'Buster Bus Day!'.
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Where could you take well over 300 A300 fans for the day and keep them all happy
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Update on the potential Enthusiasts Trip:
Dear Enthusiasts,
Thank you very much to those of you that have e-mailed in to show your interest in a potential A300 Farewell Flight. So many of you have responded in fact that I am unable to take the time to respond to each of you individually, so I do apologise if you haven’t received a personal response. There has been significant interest shown, and so plans will now progress in confirming dates, timings, pricing and content of the event, with the intention of being in a position to take bookings before Christmas.
I would like to thank those of you that have provided suggestions or feedback on the content of the trip. Suggestions have been varied and very original, and if we possibly can, we will try to accommodate as many of your suggestions as possible. Lots of you have requested a trip originating in Manchester; a valid request given the association that the aircraft has with MAN. Many others have requested a departure from Gatwick as well. Our final A300 will be based at Gatwick up until it’s departure in the Spring, and so positioning the aircraft to Manchester to operate an Enthusiast trip, would require that you, the Enthusiasts, cover the cost of such an operation. As a widebody aircraft, I am conscious of the fact, that encouraging Enthusiasts to sit in middle seats, might be difficult, as I believe that the vast majority of you will want window seats. Therefore for that reason, pricing will be based on only selling the aircraft to a maximum of around two thirds full, and running additional flights if the demand is there. We will evaluate the possibility of operating a very basic flight option at Gatwick, and also the feasibility of selling seats on the positioning flight to Birmingham, but for the time being, our focus is on Birmingham, where our A300 fleet will be undergoing their final maintenance checks with Monarch Aircraft Engineering Ltd, in their fantastic new hangar facility, prior to their departure from the fleet.
There have been a number of questions from you as well regarding this potential event, and I will do my best to answer those below;
1) Why Birmingham? For the reasons above – operating the flight from Birmingham provides the cheapest flight option to you, the Enthusiast. Having reviewed the costs of trips to other UK or European airports, the decision has been taken that it will be impossible to cover the costs of the operation, and therefore, it wouldn’t happen.
2) Will you be providing “light” options which would include a hangar tour only, or the opportunity to spot the aircraft at Birmingham from a safe vantage point? Sadly, no. The additional complexity of running different packages and events on a single day with only a small support staff is not feasible, and so the event will focus on those passengers travelling on the aircraft.
3) What are the age requirements? Monarch cannot accept any passengers under the age of 16 without an accompanying adult. On previous trips, we have had children as young as 3 in attendance. Rather than discourage this, we welcome Enthusiasts of all ages to come along and enjoy our events. Parents should really think carefully though about the fact that these are often long days, with potentially, lots of walking, and occasionally some waiting around. We minimise this as much as possible, but it cannot be guaranteed.
4) Will Monarch be producing A300-themed merchandise to mark the departure? Quite honestly, it hadn’t been considered, but we can put some thought in to it, and see whether or not we can produce something for those A300 fans out there!
No bookings have yet been made for any flight, as it is still a work in progress. Your interest has been noted, and you have been added to a mailing list so that further details will be sent to you when they are confirmed.
I would recommend that you continue to advise any friends that are interested in attending to send an e-mail to [email protected] so that they can also be added to the mailing list.
Kind Regards
Toby
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Thank you very much to those of you that have e-mailed in to show your interest in a potential A300 Farewell Flight. So many of you have responded in fact that I am unable to take the time to respond to each of you individually, so I do apologise if you haven’t received a personal response. There has been significant interest shown, and so plans will now progress in confirming dates, timings, pricing and content of the event, with the intention of being in a position to take bookings before Christmas.
I would like to thank those of you that have provided suggestions or feedback on the content of the trip. Suggestions have been varied and very original, and if we possibly can, we will try to accommodate as many of your suggestions as possible. Lots of you have requested a trip originating in Manchester; a valid request given the association that the aircraft has with MAN. Many others have requested a departure from Gatwick as well. Our final A300 will be based at Gatwick up until it’s departure in the Spring, and so positioning the aircraft to Manchester to operate an Enthusiast trip, would require that you, the Enthusiasts, cover the cost of such an operation. As a widebody aircraft, I am conscious of the fact, that encouraging Enthusiasts to sit in middle seats, might be difficult, as I believe that the vast majority of you will want window seats. Therefore for that reason, pricing will be based on only selling the aircraft to a maximum of around two thirds full, and running additional flights if the demand is there. We will evaluate the possibility of operating a very basic flight option at Gatwick, and also the feasibility of selling seats on the positioning flight to Birmingham, but for the time being, our focus is on Birmingham, where our A300 fleet will be undergoing their final maintenance checks with Monarch Aircraft Engineering Ltd, in their fantastic new hangar facility, prior to their departure from the fleet.
There have been a number of questions from you as well regarding this potential event, and I will do my best to answer those below;
1) Why Birmingham? For the reasons above – operating the flight from Birmingham provides the cheapest flight option to you, the Enthusiast. Having reviewed the costs of trips to other UK or European airports, the decision has been taken that it will be impossible to cover the costs of the operation, and therefore, it wouldn’t happen.
2) Will you be providing “light” options which would include a hangar tour only, or the opportunity to spot the aircraft at Birmingham from a safe vantage point? Sadly, no. The additional complexity of running different packages and events on a single day with only a small support staff is not feasible, and so the event will focus on those passengers travelling on the aircraft.
3) What are the age requirements? Monarch cannot accept any passengers under the age of 16 without an accompanying adult. On previous trips, we have had children as young as 3 in attendance. Rather than discourage this, we welcome Enthusiasts of all ages to come along and enjoy our events. Parents should really think carefully though about the fact that these are often long days, with potentially, lots of walking, and occasionally some waiting around. We minimise this as much as possible, but it cannot be guaranteed.
4) Will Monarch be producing A300-themed merchandise to mark the departure? Quite honestly, it hadn’t been considered, but we can put some thought in to it, and see whether or not we can produce something for those A300 fans out there!
No bookings have yet been made for any flight, as it is still a work in progress. Your interest has been noted, and you have been added to a mailing list so that further details will be sent to you when they are confirmed.
I would recommend that you continue to advise any friends that are interested in attending to send an e-mail to [email protected] so that they can also be added to the mailing list.
Kind Regards
Toby
Monarch Airlines
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This is how it is :
Monarch are doing a good thing and arranging the flight for enthusiasts.
It may be a case of " last chance to Fly " on an A300 unless you want to get in a box and send yourself overseas by DHL.
It may just be a " chance to fly " for some who don't/can't very often.
Excellent PR for the airline and maybe some extra dosh into the coffers.
A fitting send off for a long serving airplane before it rests in peace.
Hopefully an enjoyable day all round , that's what it is all about .
Monarch are doing a good thing and arranging the flight for enthusiasts.
It may be a case of " last chance to Fly " on an A300 unless you want to get in a box and send yourself overseas by DHL.
It may just be a " chance to fly " for some who don't/can't very often.
Excellent PR for the airline and maybe some extra dosh into the coffers.
A fitting send off for a long serving airplane before it rests in peace.
Hopefully an enjoyable day all round , that's what it is all about .