Monarch - 3

[gilesdavies]

Has G-MONS been withdrawn from service, it's such a shame that nobody wanted to take them and convert them to freighters it just seems such a waste, surprised turkey didn't take them they love 300's.

You need to bear in mind the aircrafts second hand value is based on hours of operation and cycle rates (number of take offs and landings).

While these aircraft are only around 20 (odd) years old, working for an airline like Monarch these aircrafts have had a pretty hard life! Shuttling passengers across Europe and longer sectors, with very high optimisation rates. For example these aircraft could easily have been operating 6-8 sectors a day for 18-20 hours.

While other airlines might just use a similar aircraft operating across the Atlantic, and this would only be two sectors a day.

While I am sure there are a good ten use left in these A300's, the compulsory maintenance checks and higher fuel consumption make these aircraft very uneconomical. Also scrap metal is at a very high price right now, and probably means the aircraft is worth more recycled to cans of coke than selling it on.

[Buster the Bear]

G-INFO

Total Hours:74441 at 31/12/2012

[Mr @ Spotty M]

Aircraft still in service, due to go in to the new BHX hangar on the 4th November.

[GrahamK]

I was on MAJS on the 11th Oct to Tenerife. Other than the seats being a bit tatty, a thoroughably enjoyable flight, it was like the good ole days of Crown Service ....almost

[MKY661]

Aircraft still in service, due to go in to the new BHX hangar on the 4th November.

Are BB and NX due there on the same date as well?

[Mr @ Spotty M]

MKY661

Yes BB into BHX and NX up into your neck of the woods (MAN).

[MKY661]

Thank You

[Buster the Bear]

Announcement soon on an order for 60 aircraft.

[zjc123]

November 2014

Hello

Anyone have any ideas when Monarch will release November 2014 flights?

Thanks

[nigel osborne]

Buster,

Re expected new 60 aircraft order, assume there are no long haul planes expected in it ?

[Buster the Bear]

Not according to my sources, but then again, things change. If they were looking at long-haul, why did they cancel the 787 orders?

[VickersVicount]

I throw my hat in the ring and say they'll predictably stick with Airbus with an Neo order. Anyone see a dramatic shift back to Boeing ? Or leftfield CSeries

[Boeing737-8]

Vickers viscount

I think different to you as monarch have always had mix fleet with a few boeing or airbus

[TSR2]

Maybe they still have a vested interest in Boeing following their cancellation of the B787.

[Buster the Bear]

TSR2, we think alike!

[nigel osborne]

Thanks Buster

Oh thats boring news then zzz just more 320/321 even if they are NEOs

The CEO of MON said this year that they would discuss the possibility of getting more long haul planes at the next board meeting. If there was agreement they might get it as far as a letter of intent.Who for though ??

The 787s were not the right plane for them you would think, they have never had large Boeing widebodies and the A358 would be the right plane to replace the A330s.

They don't need anything bigger,with ultra tight 30" pitch on their A330s they will get loads on.

Could they find enough work for more long haul planes, debateable..however MON love BHX and BHX is crying out for someone to do more long haul so Id never say never.

[gilesdavies]

I wonder if a Boeing order could be a possibility, especially if the airline could place this without facing cancellation costs of the old 787 order.

Not sure however if the 737-900 or its new MAX version has the same range and capacity of the A321?...

I heard about six months ago the airline was also interested in the C-Series... That would be a curve ball, if the airline placed an order for this, and apparently offers further savings over the Boeing and Airbus options.

[Mr @ Spotty M]

I am pretty sure Monarch would not have had any cancellation fees, for the B787 order which was cancelled, this is because Boeing could not meet the delivery dates.
More like Boeing would have owed money to Monarch for failure to meet the contract signed.
Monarch has ordered all Airbus since they started operating the A320 and the only break with that was the B787.
The reason for the B787 was size, the A350 being offered was deemed to big at the time.
It is no secret that Monarch has looked at the NEO's, MAX & C series and we await the outcome.
For the time being, Monarch are taking delivery of new CEO's which are being leased from various leasing companies.
I would not write Boeing off yet, you never know what might be on offer, you have only to look at Easyjets history, big Boeing customer only to switch to Airbus.
As for A330 replacement, l believe the CEO said that once the narrow body order was finalised, they would then look at what to replace the A330s with.
Those who work within the Monarch Group may put me right or confirm what l believe was said.

[ZeBedie]

I would say Boeing have more incentive to convert this Airbus operator than Airbus have hold onto it, since an order for Boeing would be a big victory for them, whilst one for Airbus would appear mundane?

[StoneyBridge Radar]

I'd be very surprised to see this go the way of Boeing.

Can't see a B737-900MAX with 220 on board getting off the ground from the likes of BJL or HRG in summer, never mind planning in a fuel stop enroute.