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Old 19th Aug 2012, 21:43
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Which doesn't tell you much because they're all pretty old and used. Being the youngest member of an old people's nursing home doesnt make you young. Biting off more than you can chew isn't clever either.
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Old 19th Aug 2012, 21:58
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Monarchs delays seem to be mounting. It seems to be routine for multiple massive delays per day generally due to aircraft going tech. They had a hugely negative impact on my holiday and looks like many others are facing similar and yes, a large part of that is down to the age of the fleet. Much as I hate defending O'Leary, at least his fleet is new and generally suffers very few tech problems.
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Old 19th Aug 2012, 22:13
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Do you think Ryanair has less tech issues as a result of crew been "encouraged" to carry on regardless? The ryanair fender bender thred is an interesting read!
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Old 19th Aug 2012, 22:36
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I have indeed read it and commented within that I think the airline should be prosecuted to within an inch of their existence for the negligence shown. That said, Monarch's reliability issues are not, as far as I'm aware, down to bumping winglets into the back of other aircraft and are more due to aging aircraft having parts that need replacing.
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Old 19th Aug 2012, 23:08
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Do you think Ryanair has less tech issues as a result of crew been "encouraged" to carry on regardless? The ryanair fender bender thred is an interesting read
Don't forget the fuel leage table for each base.
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Old 20th Aug 2012, 04:44
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I don't call being just 3 1/2 years old, old do you?
You will find delays are going to continue to be a problem now and in the future, not only with Monarch, but also the likes of TOM.
The reason for this, is that airlines are selling their spares to specialist companies more and more.
It then can take many hours to taxi the spare part around the country, only to find it fails on fit and you start all over again.
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Old 20th Aug 2012, 07:30
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I don't call being just 3 1/2 years old, old do you?
I believe the 'newest' A321 in the Monarch fleet is 4 years old... Still not exactly old mind you...
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Old 20th Aug 2012, 09:14
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Monarch Birmingham

Can anyone help me find out which aircraft Monarch currently has based at Birmingham?
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Old 20th Aug 2012, 09:20
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Any Monarch knockers out there care to comment on the number of cancelled flights over the last two weeks?
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Old 20th Aug 2012, 09:24
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Can anyone help me find out which aircraft Monarch currently has based at Birmingham?

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GB
The following aircraft are based at BHX.
  • OM-AEX (Leased to Monarch from AirExplore)
  • LY-SKA (Leased to Monarch from Aurela)
  • G-OZBX (A320)
  • G-OZBW (A320)
  • G-OZBS (A321)
  • G-OZBP (A321)
  • G-OZBF (A321)

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Old 20th Aug 2012, 09:36
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Monarch DON'T cancel flights.
They will always run!!

(all be it slightly late if there's an issue)
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Old 20th Aug 2012, 10:13
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That's the point.
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Old 20th Aug 2012, 10:42
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BHX Base

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One missing from that list, it is 4 x A321's, 2 x A320's, 1 x 734 & 1 x 733.

G-OZBM is the one missing currently flying BHX-LEI-BHX.

You could add B757 G-ZAPX subbed-in to operated ZB466/7 BHX-NCE-BHX as the 733 is still in Tenerife - tech since the 18th?

The A320's don't swap that much - occasionally one will position out on a Tuesday night to Luton with one coming in the opposite direction but mid-July was the last time that happened. The 321's seem to change often but not really checked where and when.
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Old 20th Aug 2012, 11:42
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Thanks OltonPete.

I came in on the 733 from NCE on the 18th, partly the reason for my question.

Delays were about 1 hr in each direction which at this time of year I don't think is too bad. I don't have complaints about the operation of the flight, but have to say that I think it is short sighted to be leasing in LY-SKA. Very tatty aircraft and not what I paid for when I booked, although as mentioned earlier on this thread it won't be cheap for Mon, it must be cheaper than leasing something comparable with the Mon aircraft based at BHX.

It was not apparent at booking or at any time prior to boarding that it would be operated by aleased aircraft.

Looking at the registrations the average age of the Mon BHX fleet is about 11 years. I like Monarch, which is why I booked with them this time, and have booked my mum on a flight with them this week to Rome, but this was a let down.
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Old 20th Aug 2012, 11:47
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It was not apparent at booking or at any time prior to boarding that it would be operated by aleased aircraft.
Why should they advise you. You've booked a Monarch flight (ZB flight number) which is exactly what you got.

If it was a code share, operated by another carrier as part of a marketing agreement then I think you might have been told, though I don't know if the carrier is legally bound to tell you.
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Old 20th Aug 2012, 11:48
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It was not apparent at booking or at any time prior to boarding that it would be operated by aleased aircraft.
That is disappointing, I thought we had been writing to people to tell them that the flights were to be operated by someone else?
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Old 20th Aug 2012, 11:55
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The airline should advise if they are not the operating carrier - however where there is a short notice lease, it is very unusual to be told as they have more important priorities like getting you to your destination.

I have seen both the B733 and B734 and to be honest, the 733 does look a little tatty but in all honesty apart from those with the knowledge do we really think the average family will take any notice? A plane is a plane to them.
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Old 20th Aug 2012, 12:16
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Fair point about the notification, although I would have appreciated it.

my Mother in Law who is 73 accompanied us, and although she knows absolutely nothing about aircraft offered the opinion that this one had seen better days.

I don't have an objection to alternative aircraft being used, but I do think they should comparable in age and condition to what would have been employed by the carrier themselves.

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Old 20th Aug 2012, 13:28
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Can anyone let me know east midlands airport frequencies for monarch?
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Old 20th Aug 2012, 13:59
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Does anyone know when Monarch are going to be taking delivery of new airframes and exactly what they will be?

We know the airline is expanding, opening new bases, routes and recruiting significant numbers of crew.... Presumably they are due for a delivery of new a/c over the winter.

I did hear about an old order from First Choice airbuses coming Monarch's way, any ideas if and when?

Obviously they are running a schedule they don't have the aeroplanes for at the moment, hence the subletting and delays. The sooner they arrive the better hopefully and they won't need to sub-let next summer.
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