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Old 21st Sep 2012, 14:25
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Monarch incident

At 1520 while acknowledging the incident occured at 1310, BHX's own website says planes are both landing and departing. So how long was the runway closed?
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 16:03
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According to the latest Monarch press release:

We have suspended the use of Aurela Airlines.
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 16:11
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This stinks of throwing together a plan in a day and not thinking anything through to try and rake in a few more pounds from bmi baby customers.
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BMI baby customers? what are you on FFS
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 18:17
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So who are Monarch getting to replace the Air Aurela 737 to get the operation back on track?
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Did a quick google on passenger reviews of Monarch, those who had the joy of Aurela operated flights are not exactly positive - some report missing backrests for some seats, and graffiti-style scratches and use of black marker pens by the windows. Sounds like a battered school bus.
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 18:56
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// from the website//
Think there is another Aurela B733 in the UK as well at the moment for Small Planet

2012 News - Flights - Monarch flight ZB467 21st September 2012

21 09 2012

Monarch confirms that the flight operating from Nice on ZB467 operated by Aurela Airlines on 21 September 2012, has been involved in an incident upon landing at Birmingham Airport.

It is understood that the flight operating on an Aurela Boeing 737-300 aircraft registration LY-SKA with 135 passengers onboard left the runway whilst taxiing to the terminal, bringing the aircraft to a stop. Passengers safely disembarked from the aircraft and were coached to the terminal where they were cared for by Monarch Airlines staff. At this time we understand that no passengers or crew have sustained any injuries.

Monarch apologises to all passengers on-board and is offering them all possible assistance. Monarch is working with Birmingham Airport to move the aircraft and is fully assisting with the authorities. As a standard precaution emergency services attended the aircraft.

We have suspended the use of Aurela Airlines who we had been using on a temporary basis to provide extra flights for the late summer period.
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 19:00
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Have a look here.

People are not happy.

Monarch Airlines Customer Reviews | SKYTRAX
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 19:06
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All ive heard about that Aurela aircraft is negetive things, nothing positive. I have also heard no issues with the Air Explore, Air Italy or Small Planet Aircraft (not yet anyway).

I wonder what the Aurela aircraft was like when it was with Thomas Cook.

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Old 21st Sep 2012, 19:17
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Did a quick google on passenger reviews of Monarch, those who had the joy of Aurela operated flights are not exactly positive - some report missing backrests for some seats, and graffiti-style scratches and use of black marker pens by the windows. Sounds like a battered school bus.
the type of people you get flying Monarch nowadays - because presumably it was in a first-class state when Monarch took on the lease?
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 19:19
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Flew on AEX 737 two weeks ago BHX-FAO, and no problems. Slovakian crew were efficient, friendly and attractive with decent English. They dealt with an on-board medical situation well too.
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Monarch are now using Titan Airways 737 POWH but not sure if is short term or long term.
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 20:59
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It's the usual story, isn't it.

Monarch find it's more convenient (= cheaper) to sub to an airline from some indeterminate base that many pax can't even spell.

Pax see Monarch's marketing material about their standards.
Pax book on the Monarch website.
Pax pay Monarch.
Pax check in at the Monarch desk.
Pax see it has a Monarch flight number.

Seems a bit ropey inside apparently, but whatever.
On arrival goes into the mud.

"This Monarch-booked flight ON AN AURELA AIRCRAFT NOT ONE OF OURS has gone into the mud with an AURELA CREW NOT ONE OF OUR CREWS and it's AURELA NOT MONARCH and IT'S A LITHUANIAN REG NOT ONE OF OURS and......"

PS - How many times over the years have Monarch themselves gone into the mud ? Maybe they can tell us.

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PS - How many times over the years have Monarch themselves gone into the mud ? Maybe they can tell us.

You'll never get a reply to that on here WHBM, far too many MON supporters that shout everyone down despite the facts that are mentioned.

Out of interest, a few posts back there's mention of securing 'another' A330 contract. Can anyone tell me what the first one was and who's the new one with?

Oh, and a bit more... the A300's where offered to DHL as a job lot about 9-10 years ago but they only wanted to pay a quarter of what MON had them valued at, that's why they'll be baked bean cans in the next couple of years.

Oh, and while i'm at it, what Aircraft have MON ACTUALLY got on order? There's constant reference on here but Mr Airbus and Mr Boeing dont seem to be giving us any clues. Are they Comac C919's and they want to keep it a secret?

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Old 22nd Sep 2012, 08:59
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Your post seems a little bitter. Have you got a grudge against Monarch ?
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Not bitter, and no grudge. It just annoys me that quite frequently on here there are factual points mentioned and a few posters time after time come on slagging those that have posted the facts, just (it seems) to 'dumb down' what 'they' dont like being talked about.
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Old 22nd Sep 2012, 09:59
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Here are some factual points about Monarch.
You will find no references in my many posts about an order for new aircraft.
Fact # 1. New A320 aircraft due March 2013.
Fact # 2. New A321 aircraft due April 2013.
Fact #3. I have not mentioned an order from Airbus, because they are being leased from two leasing companies.
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Old 23rd Sep 2012, 12:10
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Full page ad in the Telegraph travel section today (yes, that's double the size of any other newspaper) along with some paid-for celebrity endorsement, and another ad due next week, to persuade people that Friedrichshafen is a great gateway to ski resorts.

Plenty of dates with one-way fares from London below 40 pounds.

Should we therefore assume that unless sales pick up sharpish, the route won't be back for the 2013/14 winter ?

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Old 23rd Sep 2012, 12:12
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Well lets hope they use their own aircraft for a change and not some dodgy sub-chartered outfit.
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Old 23rd Sep 2012, 15:06
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FR tried FDH from LPL a few years back I think it only ran for a season. I used to live near FDH many moons back, it's a lovely place on Lake Konstanz but as a gateway to the slopes, in my recollection they are hours away! Without a car it's a very long time consuming journey to the Tirol. There are also some small scale ski resorts in the Black Forest but again a fair old journey. Surely INN would have been a better bet?
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