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Monarch will be using: AXE (Air Explore) - B734 and LSK (Aurela) - B733 both out of BHX & LLC (Small Planet Airlines) - 733 and AEY (Air Italy) - 734 both out of EMA.
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Thats exactly my thought Scandic. There are a lot better aircraft out there than these old birds. Does anyone know if they are going to be in MON colours and crew ? Or is the crew being provided by the lessor ?
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I presume these 4 737 classics will and are temporary a/c untill the new aircraft that they are procurring come online. These a/c are most likely in place so that they can start their upgauged and brand new flying programmes from the 2 airports in question.
Ofcourse feel free to correct me if i am wrong as i am merely guessing.
Ofcourse feel free to correct me if i am wrong as i am merely guessing.
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It might seem strange to you, but not to me.
EMA was set up in a hurry because of the Bmibaby issue and was not planned in advance to be so soon.
So you want to start a new base, you have no spare a/c and no crews at EMA.
Hence it is not rocket science in what you do next.
The same goes for the extra flights that were added to the BHX program.
EMA was set up in a hurry because of the Bmibaby issue and was not planned in advance to be so soon.
So you want to start a new base, you have no spare a/c and no crews at EMA.
Hence it is not rocket science in what you do next.
The same goes for the extra flights that were added to the BHX program.
The same goes for the extra flights that were added to the BHX program.
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TCX69, like Mr Spotty M stated above me, Monarch have instantly seen a gap emerge in the market and have pounced upon it and are beginning to fill that gap in quite nicely. Albeit for the time being the service will be operated by other carriers, but their service levels should and probably will be expected to be on par with Monarch's own standards of service. I think it is best that Monarch have added flights from said airports, rather than having none at all.
As soon as the new aircraft are procured, there will be no leased in aircraft at these two bases, as they will be replaced with a MON aircraft... As far as i am aware/
Crewmeal, Ok Monarch have had a couple of delays now and then from a variety of airports - some of them small and some of the nastily long. But i dont see why people are constantly moaning about Monarch all the time. All airlines have delays, and this could be for a variety of reasons such as technical faults, emergency landings, delays in airport/air traffic control, all of which lead to knock on effects to airlines schedules. This happens all of the time with airlines such as TCX or TOM. I remember those 2 airlines had quite a bad summer a couple of years ago. Airlines utilise their aircraft more in the summer season than in winter, thus making them more prone to delays and faults etc. This cannot be helped, Monarch are trying their best to rectify the problems asap and are keeping to schedule most of the time. They are also updating their fleet with newer more efficient models i.e getting rid of a300 aircraft aswell as older a320s and b757s.
Also with regards to your comment on customers not using Monarch again in the future just because of a delay, would you say the same thing if a BA or Emirates flight was delayed? Monarch have a very loyal fan base which is ever expanding. If customers did not want to use them at all due to delays that they have had, then why are they showing stats on their website which are showing that their load factors and what not are increasing compared to the year before?
Rant over. Apologies if it seems that i am giving you a grilling, it is not intended, i am merely stating my opinion, while at the same time accepting and acknowledging yours.
As soon as the new aircraft are procured, there will be no leased in aircraft at these two bases, as they will be replaced with a MON aircraft... As far as i am aware/
Crewmeal, Ok Monarch have had a couple of delays now and then from a variety of airports - some of them small and some of the nastily long. But i dont see why people are constantly moaning about Monarch all the time. All airlines have delays, and this could be for a variety of reasons such as technical faults, emergency landings, delays in airport/air traffic control, all of which lead to knock on effects to airlines schedules. This happens all of the time with airlines such as TCX or TOM. I remember those 2 airlines had quite a bad summer a couple of years ago. Airlines utilise their aircraft more in the summer season than in winter, thus making them more prone to delays and faults etc. This cannot be helped, Monarch are trying their best to rectify the problems asap and are keeping to schedule most of the time. They are also updating their fleet with newer more efficient models i.e getting rid of a300 aircraft aswell as older a320s and b757s.
Also with regards to your comment on customers not using Monarch again in the future just because of a delay, would you say the same thing if a BA or Emirates flight was delayed? Monarch have a very loyal fan base which is ever expanding. If customers did not want to use them at all due to delays that they have had, then why are they showing stats on their website which are showing that their load factors and what not are increasing compared to the year before?
Rant over. Apologies if it seems that i am giving you a grilling, it is not intended, i am merely stating my opinion, while at the same time accepting and acknowledging yours.
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Charley - The A330's are staying for the duration. Meanwhile that cannot be said for the A300's which are all to be disposed of by the end of summer 2014 - according to sources such as Jethro.
If i were you i would get yourself on an a300 before they leave the fleet and europe(?) forever! I am lucky enough to have travelled on the workhouse to and from Sharm el Sheikh last year - in economy on the way there, and a nice little free upgrade to extra legroom seats at the front on the way back! Great aircraft, which has been a great money earner for MON on the SSH, TFS, PMI runs etc. Will be sadly missed.
If i were you i would get yourself on an a300 before they leave the fleet and europe(?) forever! I am lucky enough to have travelled on the workhouse to and from Sharm el Sheikh last year - in economy on the way there, and a nice little free upgrade to extra legroom seats at the front on the way back! Great aircraft, which has been a great money earner for MON on the SSH, TFS, PMI runs etc. Will be sadly missed.
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Just throw my two penneth worth in here.
The reason MON have gone with the airlines that they have for the end of the summer is because these are the only carriers who have availability.
If MON had known their requirement earlier they could have secured the necessary capacity with better quality airlines.
I would be suprised if they used all the leased aircraft in new bases etc because having had the pleasure of flying with a couple of these carriers they really arent anything to shout about. The best people can hope for is a reasonable service, the worst is a bad taste left in their mouths becasue they are not flying on a MON product.
The 747 has been flying as MON have an aircraft out on unscheduled maintenance. Glad its been operating okay becasue it will be costing a pretty penny.
Will definetly be an interesting summer at MON.
The reason MON have gone with the airlines that they have for the end of the summer is because these are the only carriers who have availability.
If MON had known their requirement earlier they could have secured the necessary capacity with better quality airlines.
I would be suprised if they used all the leased aircraft in new bases etc because having had the pleasure of flying with a couple of these carriers they really arent anything to shout about. The best people can hope for is a reasonable service, the worst is a bad taste left in their mouths becasue they are not flying on a MON product.
The 747 has been flying as MON have an aircraft out on unscheduled maintenance. Glad its been operating okay becasue it will be costing a pretty penny.
Will definetly be an interesting summer at MON.
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Lagerlout, the aircraft that MON are leasing out are only for the summer season (according to Jethro). Now with the new ski schedule for W12/13 soon approaching (sort of - you know what i mean 
) those flights should be operated by MON aircraft - mainly due to the fact the season is quiter and they will have more aircraft to play around with. Not only that but hopefully we will see some new aircraft inducted into the airbus fleet.
I agree exactly with your comment on the aircraft being leased being last minute, but one could also see it from a point of view of that they hold less seats and by using them in a new base they are able to have more of a full aircraft than putting on a a320 or a321 and having half a full plane... see what i mean? So basically MON have probably also took that into consideration EMA wise. Now for BHX they might use them on the Nice route and other new S12 routes that are not fully booked, or they could be using them to fill in the gaps or to swap with a MON a/c that would be running a flight half full - so that it is more economical. If you know what i mean?
) those flights should be operated by MON aircraft - mainly due to the fact the season is quiter and they will have more aircraft to play around with. Not only that but hopefully we will see some new aircraft inducted into the airbus fleet.I agree exactly with your comment on the aircraft being leased being last minute, but one could also see it from a point of view of that they hold less seats and by using them in a new base they are able to have more of a full aircraft than putting on a a320 or a321 and having half a full plane... see what i mean? So basically MON have probably also took that into consideration EMA wise. Now for BHX they might use them on the Nice route and other new S12 routes that are not fully booked, or they could be using them to fill in the gaps or to swap with a MON a/c that would be running a flight half full - so that it is more economical. If you know what i mean?
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Alpha.Charlie do we have a 'rumoured' time scale for these 4 A32X's?? If they are around November time could 3 of them possibly be the ex FCA(TOM) a320/1 aircraft?
Rumour has it that G-MPCD is going to be a standby a/c
Rumour has it that G-MPCD is going to be a standby a/c
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