Monarch - 3
It's interesting to compare Monarch with Jet2. Monarch came from charter, and have gradually morphed in to a completely scheduled carrier. Arranging full holidays are an afterthought, but nevertheless important. Cosmos uses other airlines when necessary to sell its holidays (but I'm not sure whether Cosmos joined Greybull when Monarch did).
Jet2 on the other hand, started as a loco and has moved in to holidays in a pretty big way. Their expansion into BHX and STN this year is heavily holiday-orientated and they are directly targeting Thomson and Thomas Cook.
Of the two, I suspect Jet2 is performing better financially.
Jet2 on the other hand, started as a loco and has moved in to holidays in a pretty big way. Their expansion into BHX and STN this year is heavily holiday-orientated and they are directly targeting Thomson and Thomas Cook.
Of the two, I suspect Jet2 is performing better financially.
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Following on from what OltonPete said, maybe their problems are due to be independent and maybe working with other airlines may help them... for instance - partnering with flybe in the regions so the right size aircraft is operating the correct route (specifically thinking Birmingham and Manchester). Could partner with Norwegian at Gatwick (same terminal unlike easyJet) to provide feed, freeing up slots for Norwegian to operate long haul - take over the Canaries, Barcelona, Alicante etc - leaving LH and Scandi to Norwegian, along with additional cities routes... could also provide assistance with the 73 MAX's.
Maybe partnerships are the way forward, instead of trying to be a wannabe TUI/Thomas Cook?
Maybe partnerships are the way forward, instead of trying to be a wannabe TUI/Thomas Cook?
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Monarch are my airline of choice from BHX ,although on my one flight to date on Jet2 I was mighty impressed with new aircraft and sparkling ground and cabin staff.
Having a premium leg room cabin appeals to pax who prefer paying £15 for these rather than the same for wing exit seats on FR and find the trolley has run out of f&b when it gets to you! And the 23k luggage is the best in class.
I have never found Monarch attracts the vest/tattoo/piercing groups that other LCC experience and they are seldom in the press for pax problems.
That is why to many "more mature travellers"it is their airline of choice.
A poll of 10 pals at the gym,average age 55, 80% use Monarch as their first choice unless the flight times are cr&p then they use Jet2 or Ryanair/FlybeVueling)
Having a premium leg room cabin appeals to pax who prefer paying £15 for these rather than the same for wing exit seats on FR and find the trolley has run out of f&b when it gets to you! And the 23k luggage is the best in class.
I have never found Monarch attracts the vest/tattoo/piercing groups that other LCC experience and they are seldom in the press for pax problems.
That is why to many "more mature travellers"it is their airline of choice.
A poll of 10 pals at the gym,average age 55, 80% use Monarch as their first choice unless the flight times are cr&p then they use Jet2 or Ryanair/FlybeVueling)
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You and some others have a history of "watching" Monarch, God only knows why? 
Despite the fact you have backtracked a few times, you have a propensity to pass snide comment when the opportunity arises! If you are in receipt of the facts, rather than your opinion, pray tell and also tell us who you are, so we can all check your credentials! 
Despite the fact you have backtracked a few times, you have a propensity to pass snide comment when the opportunity arises! If you are in receipt of the facts, rather than your opinion, pray tell and also tell us who you are, so we can all check your credentials!
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I believe HNA are still interested in the investing in Monarch that would be a great outcome, Monarch with its well respected engineering division
would fit well into the HNA group
would fit well into the HNA group
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That's exactly what MON need, A investor with deep pockets and a long term plan to grow the business , No reason why MON could not move into lo cost long haul they certainly have the experience and back up
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and they are seldom in the press for pax problems.
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In this day and age ...Yeah right , One thing you can say about MON compared to say Jet 2 for example who without doubt are the pikeys airline of choice is they seem to attract a more upmarket type of customer
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Depends if "adverse" publicity for instances such as drunks being offloaded/arrested is intentional in order to send a message that getting tanked up before or during a flight and then behaving badly/unruly is not going to be tolerated and they too could end up with a bill like that bloke who caused a Jet2 flight to divert last year for his drunken antics?
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With suggestions that Monarch will not being retiring/disposing of any of their Airbus fleet anytime soon (the next few seasons at least) and with 3x 737Maxs coming online in Q2 of 2018, it will be interesting to see what Monarchs schedule is like for summer 2018.
Yes there will be staff training requirements but otherwise I would imagine they will go into service ASAP... its not very efficient having brand new jets on the ground doing nothing.
I'm lead to believe that BHX will be the initial beneficiary of the 737Max's (although I have no evidence to back this up - happy to be proven wrong)...but wherever they go, if the Airbus's aren't going anywhere quick, will inherently mean Base Growth at either LGW, MAN, BHX, LTN or LBA.....?
As a brummie, im intrigued to know how they will respond to the extra 2x A/C Jet2 will be putting into BHX....
Yes there will be staff training requirements but otherwise I would imagine they will go into service ASAP... its not very efficient having brand new jets on the ground doing nothing.
I'm lead to believe that BHX will be the initial beneficiary of the 737Max's (although I have no evidence to back this up - happy to be proven wrong)...but wherever they go, if the Airbus's aren't going anywhere quick, will inherently mean Base Growth at either LGW, MAN, BHX, LTN or LBA.....?
As a brummie, im intrigued to know how they will respond to the extra 2x A/C Jet2 will be putting into BHX....