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Old 5th Aug 2014, 13:33
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As I keep saying

Payload/range - 737 MAX is lighter incorporating 787 lessons learnt.

Probably price.
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Old 5th Aug 2014, 18:36
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Monarch was one of the first airlines to undertake counter-seasonal leasing with the 737-200s, partnering with Pacific Western for quite a few years throughout the 1980s. It seems that the absence of this from their business plan, and difficulty finding enough productive work to keep the fleet occupied in the UK over the winter together with the heavy maintenance checks, is one of the major gaps in strategy. Perhaps the 737 MAX offers far greater potential for this type of activity to reduce winter losses than the Airbus fleet, with more partners in Canada, US, Mexico etc.
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Old 5th Aug 2014, 19:31
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Still no programme for S15 for EMA or LBA ........
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Old 5th Aug 2014, 20:15
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Still no programme for S15 for EMA or LBA ........
Believe they will be going up shortly with some other routes not loaded in yet
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Old 6th Aug 2014, 20:08
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Why do you believe that?
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Old 6th Aug 2014, 20:15
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the beliefs of other forums ?
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Old 6th Aug 2014, 20:17
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MONJ came into man this afternoon but didn't operate a flight out, or could it just be going into the hangar
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Old 6th Aug 2014, 20:19
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Why do you believe that?
Also heard on Twitter that they will put them up soon
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Old 6th Aug 2014, 20:52
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This is from their FB page > "We are currently conducting a review of our schedule for Summer 15. We have released 4 bases where the review has been complete however the review is on-going for Leeds Bradford and East Midlands. The schedule for summer 15 will offer our customers a better service with; more frequent flights to some of our most popular destinations, better weekend flight times & flexibility to book a short break or a mid or longer length holiday."


In view of the fact that the current Boeings are due to depart one has to ask if they are seeking substitute s/h to serve the routes in S15. In addition the potential Boeing order must require some financial support from 'holdings' and as it is well documented that they are seeking finance (whether internally or externally) surely whoever injects funding into holdings is going to request a review of the Boeing order (due diligence) before committing finance.
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Old 6th Aug 2014, 22:10
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Not seeking more s/h for next year and don't believe all that you hear on social media.
NJ is in for maintenance.
First B757 JB does not leave until mid November.
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Old 6th Aug 2014, 22:15
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Would you say freighter or coke cans.
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Old 7th Aug 2014, 08:37
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We are currently conducting a review of our schedule for Summer 15. We have released 4 bases where the review has been complete however the review is on-going for Leeds Bradford and East Midlands. The schedule for summer 15 will offer our customers a better service with; more frequent flights to some of our most popular destinations, better weekend flight times & flexibility to book a short break or a mid or longer length holiday
The second sentence of that statement is the same wording as was used when the Summer 2015 offerings already released were announced and as such is largely meaningless PR blurb. This suggests to me that there are question marks over the LBA / EMA operation.

Obviously it could you one of two ways, either dropping one or the other base (the EMA base was very much a knee jerk reaction to bmi Baby's closure) or growing them (possibly a combination - say closing one base and enhancing the other). Maintaining the status quo at both bases looks to me to be unlikely.

All will surely be revealed in due course.
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Old 7th Aug 2014, 13:42
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Calm down everyone, the summer schedule is always staggered over a space of month.

They usually release them base by base. EMA and LBA are the two smallest bases, so they are going to want to focus the resources on the larger more important ones like Luton.

This time last year there were rumours that the Luton base would see an aircraft added for summer 2014 (which happened_ and another for summer 2015. Is it still looking likely we will see a sixth aircraft based at the airport for next year?

Last year the schedule was not updated to reflect the 5th airframe until about January.
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Old 7th Aug 2014, 16:45
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Taking your reported comment at face value (i can't find it on Monarch's Facebook page) then it would suggest these two bases are at risk, the review is after all about 2 aircraft at each base, so not the biggest job in the world but there will have been contracts signed with airports and handlers and so on and of course staff considerations. Whilst i thought EMA was a good move to fill the post bmibaby vacuum, i never did get LBA, there is no synergy with Manchester so you will have crew standby costs to cover just two aircraft.

Going up against Jet2 with only 2 aircraft is daft, jet2 can quickly, very quickly price match against 4 outbound flights a day without having a material effect on their overall yield at Leeds, they should have put 4 aircraft in EMA and forget LBA

Monarch seem to be slow to respond and take for ever to make a decision, meanwhile Jet2 will have been taking 1000's of booking for next Summer at both Leeds & EMA whilst Monarch deliberate their options........the new management need to step up a gear or two
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Old 7th Aug 2014, 18:23
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Please don't shoot the messenger! All I did was copy and paste a response from the Monarch social team that has been repeated with constant regularity on their facebook page over the past couple of weeks. The loyal ZB/MON pax are wishing to complete early bookings for 2015 and the absence of LBA and EMA is causing concern in respect of hotel/villa bookings for next year. Many are mentioning the Jet2 availability. I accept that matters you read on a social media site mean didly squit however surely the senior bods at Monarch should 'control' their media team and not agree to comments if they are eventually proven to be incorrect.
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Old 7th Aug 2014, 20:26
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111 KAB no shooting involved, i just had a quick look and couldn't see it, so i was just qualifying my comment based on your comment. good luck to all involved and lets hope for a positive outcome
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Going up against Jet2 with only 2 aircraft is daft, jet2 can quickly, very quickly price match against 4 outbound flights a day without having a material effect on their overall yield at Leeds, they should have put 4 aircraft in EMA and forget LBA
Or vice versa.
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 10:27
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I think 4 into EMA would have/could made more sense, Jet2 were still new-ish in EMA and ZB have a large presence in the Midlands through its BHX base, at Leeds ZB are the new boys and Jet2 are bound to defend there home turf.....just saying
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Old 10th Aug 2014, 08:27
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Does not bode well for LBA and EMA .... Jon Moulton circles turbulent Monarch as PwC stands by - Telegraph
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Old 10th Aug 2014, 09:38
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Does not bode that well for Monarch...!
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