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Come on people haven't got a clue about what planes they are flying on. It was only a few years ago Balkan would fly people on TU154s. If people knew anything about them and their chequered history I'm sure nobody would set foot in them. In days gone by when airlines used to sell themselves on the planes they flew they people maybe were a little more type aware (connie, trident, BAC111, l1011, DC10, Electras) but now when airlines are pretty common (especially down the back) and the planes are pretty generic looking people don't know or don't care.
Maybe people know a 787 is a bit different, but line one up against a group of other aircraft and I'd bet you not one of your average punters could distinguish it from the rest.
I don't think for one moment that MON will buy Boeing. EZY were in advanced talks with Boeing too very recently. They didn't go Boeing. Instead they played the manufacturers off of one another to get a better deal out of airbus. Same here.
Maybe people know a 787 is a bit different, but line one up against a group of other aircraft and I'd bet you not one of your average punters could distinguish it from the rest.
I don't think for one moment that MON will buy Boeing. EZY were in advanced talks with Boeing too very recently. They didn't go Boeing. Instead they played the manufacturers off of one another to get a better deal out of airbus. Same here.
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Monarch has discretely released its financial report.
How exactly are they funding this order of new aircraft? Another present from Switzerland?
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Monarch has also announced the same day that it is about to leave Swissport at LGW and MAN due to the terrible performance of the handling agent this summer.
A new handling agent will take over early November.
A new handling agent will take over early November.
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Monarch has also announced the same day that it is about to leave Swissport at LGW and MAN due to the terrible performance of the handling agent this summer.
A new handling agent will take over early November.
A new handling agent will take over early November.
Don't kid yourself, it's all about doing it for the lowest price - service is a very distant 2nd.
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I have already commented on the superior payload range of the Boeing offering vs. Airbus especially on the longer routes. Not surprised at all.
At the expense of a tiny bit of cabin width which customer service can easily overcome. The 737 MAX gets pretty close to the 757.
As an aside doesn't the aeroplane look great in Monarch colours- slightly more purposeful the 'BUS
Am amazed that airframe I fist saw as a 13 year old boy in 1968 will now see me out- hats to the boys at Being for squeezing the most out of an airframe
At the expense of a tiny bit of cabin width which customer service can easily overcome. The 737 MAX gets pretty close to the 757.
As an aside doesn't the aeroplane look great in Monarch colours- slightly more purposeful the 'BUS
Am amazed that airframe I fist saw as a 13 year old boy in 1968 will now see me out- hats to the boys at Being for squeezing the most out of an airframe
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I Don't dispute your claim, but i was surprised Monarch made the jump to Boeing given their current fleet of Airbus aircraft, i can only think that Boeing was holding non refundable deposit money from the now cancelled 787 order and that when that went back into the pot the numbers added up.
If this is to be Monarch 'standard' aircraft going forward then 189 pax is a lot less than what the A321 can carry, although i did read that Boeing was looking at a 200 seat version of the 800 airframe without a stretch but an extra door aft of the wing.
What about long haul is there a further order to come? ditto talk of the C series?
A fleet of 320/321 Neo's plus 330 Neo's would have given greater route flexibility with a common type rating and the entry in to service date could have been earlier, Q2 2018 is a long time off.
If this is to be Monarch 'standard' aircraft going forward then 189 pax is a lot less than what the A321 can carry, although i did read that Boeing was looking at a 200 seat version of the 800 airframe without a stretch but an extra door aft of the wing.
What about long haul is there a further order to come? ditto talk of the C series?
A fleet of 320/321 Neo's plus 330 Neo's would have given greater route flexibility with a common type rating and the entry in to service date could have been earlier, Q2 2018 is a long time off.
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I Don't dispute your claim, but i was surprised Monarch made the jump to Boeing given their current fleet of Airbus aircraft, i can only think that Boeing was holding non refundable deposit money from the now cancelled 787 order and that when that went back into the pot the numbers added up.
Facelookbovvered
If you're going to spend USD3.1bn then surely the decision is going to come down to two things. First cost, and not just the up front price, but the operating costs. Second (but obviously not by much) the competing product's ability to perform the job required of them.
How it looks in your (the airlines) colour scheme is of no importance whatsoever - appreciate you haven't mentioned this flb.
As for your average bucket and spade passenger, these days they'd be hard pressed to know whether they were inside an Airbus or Boeing product. All they're interested in is price, price and then price of their ticket.
I Don't dispute your claim, but i was surprised Monarch made the jump to Boeing given their current fleet of Airbus aircraft, i can only think that Boeing was holding non refundable deposit money from the now cancelled 787 order and that when that went back into the pot the numbers added up.
How it looks in your (the airlines) colour scheme is of no importance whatsoever - appreciate you haven't mentioned this flb.
As for your average bucket and spade passenger, these days they'd be hard pressed to know whether they were inside an Airbus or Boeing product. All they're interested in is price, price and then price of their ticket.
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Anyone know the outcome of the Monarch diversion to Athens yesterday (around 1645 UTC)?They mentioned they had a problem dealing with a disruptive passenger who was turning violent.
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Comment circulating on the internet "Return flight Birmingham-Larnaca on 16/17/14.We had an emergency landing at Athens airport because a passenger was drunk.The crew made mistakes.First they underestimated the situation and then they overreacted when the situation was under control.We have pictures of him drinking beers on the plane whilst being drunk."
Don't know why they bothered to land ..... should have just opened the door and pushed.
Don't know why they bothered to land ..... should have just opened the door and pushed.