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The official airport opening times are 0630 until 2130 every day. Anything flying outside of those times is subject to an extension arrangement or other agreement with the airport, the type of arrangement that has been in place for the mail flights for many years. Seven of the flights listed in the previous post are operating whilst the airport is shut to general aviation. Staffing at night reflects these arrangements.
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Flights do operate late at night/early hours of the morning but most are freight/mail that do not require use of a licensed aerodrome (ie without CAT 7 fire cover and the staff that requires providing), do not require full ATC (ie three or more controllers on duty at a time) and the Terminal Building not open (with all the handling and other staff). Unless there is demand for passenger flights (which there isn't) full 24 hour operation is not going to happen at Bournemouth anytime soon.
Flights do operate late at night/early hours of the morning but most are freight/mail that do not require use of a licensed aerodrome (ie without CAT 7 fire cover and the staff that requires providing), do not require full ATC (ie three or more controllers on duty at a time) and the Terminal Building not open (with all the handling and other staff). Unless there is demand for passenger flights (which there isn't) full 24 hour operation is not going to happen at Bournemouth anytime soon.
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I don't think anyone has advocated permanent fully staffed 24 hour opening at this time. They are just pointing out that the airport is already open 24 hours a day with limited ATC/Fire Cover for mail flights and regularly fully staffed for scheduled flights beyond the official closing time. There are scheduled Thomson and Ryanair arrivals most nights after 21:30.
If any operator is willing to pay the extension fee for an arrival or departure between 21:30 and 06:30 then presumably the airport will consider accepting the flight. If the demand is there during the Olympics period (and I have no idea whether it will be or not) then surely there could effectively be full 24 hour operations for the period or even just on a few odd days.
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If any operator is willing to pay the extension fee for an arrival or departure between 21:30 and 06:30 then presumably the airport will consider accepting the flight. If the demand is there during the Olympics period (and I have no idea whether it will be or not) then surely there could effectively be full 24 hour operations for the period or even just on a few odd days.
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THOMSON SUMMER 2013
Thomson have released there first edition brochure and the only new destination will be the return of Tunisia on a Sunday with a Palma service being dropped to make way for it .
Mahon and Lanzarote new this year are staying for next summer
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Thomson have released there first edition brochure and the only new destination will be the return of Tunisia on a Sunday with a Palma service being dropped to make way for it .
Mahon and Lanzarote new this year are staying for next summer
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Not popular with public
Looks like the airport is still not popular with the public
Bournemouth Airport Customer Reviews | SKYTRAX
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Drop off charges
Yes it is not a great idea by BOH, but really reading some of those reviews! Are local people going to boycott the airport and go to Gatwick because of a £2.50 drop off charge??? I mean even if they used Southampton instead will hardly be a cost saving. Seems to me a bit of a wind up by a few anti BOH types!
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I'm afraid I don't think it is just anti-BOH types. The charge is extremely bloody-minded and like the debit/credit card charges which both Flybe and Aurigny have dropped today, it leaves a very sour taste in the mouth of the customer and makes them feel ripped off... dropping people off and paying by card don't cost the imposers of the charge anything and yet they charge on the ridiculous basis that it somehow could. Consumers really aren't that stupid (unfortunately it's the management which is, however). They really are disadvantaging themselves against SOU - strikes me as mildly suicidal.
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Given that the airport gets such bad press about this charge they must be making a fair amount of money to persist with it. For an airport financially strapped that would be irresistible. Other airports have imposed charges to pay for development, Bournemouth can't impose any extra tax on passengers directly presumably as Ryanair would stop that. Car parking/ access to drop off is one of the very few ways of getting income.
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£2.50 is hardly a huge amount of money these days. Can you get a pint of beer for that? Is it worth risking you life over for by getting dropped off, crossing parley lane and walking down a busy road just for the price of an M&S sandwich? Those that do are the stupid ones. Most people park up and pay up as they realise like I do, the convenience of a LOCAL airport. These times are hard, look at Coventry, Manston and DTV. Other airports charge for drop off now, so who's stupid aero mad?
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£2.50 is hardly a huge amount of money these days
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I agree entirely that it's the principle, not the cost, that gets one's goat.
It doesn't help that the service associated with the cost appears poor too. Last year I paid £6 to park in the viewing area for an hour or so but couldn't get out after paying as the barrier wouldn't go up and the intercom didn't work (had to walk to the terminal!). This year, I couldn't get in the same car park, again the intercom button didn't work and the error message was in Spanish.
It doesn't help that the service associated with the cost appears poor too. Last year I paid £6 to park in the viewing area for an hour or so but couldn't get out after paying as the barrier wouldn't go up and the intercom didn't work (had to walk to the terminal!). This year, I couldn't get in the same car park, again the intercom button didn't work and the error message was in Spanish.
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It seems that only people averse to change or the way the world is heading are against drop off fees (EMA has them too you know, and other regional airports)
If you are reluctant to hand over 20p with a knife held to your throat then it kind of explains how mad you are!!
The principle of the fee is to keep people in jobs at BOH. simple!
If you are reluctant to hand over 20p with a knife held to your throat then it kind of explains how mad you are!!
The principle of the fee is to keep people in jobs at BOH. simple!
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Drop of / Pick up Charges
If 100% of clients are totally pi**ed off with the whole concept of drop off charges and most say they will avoid BOH in future how can that possiby protect peoples jobs.
Although minor by comparison the Viewing Park is closed to vehicles while some work is carried out.....the alternative is a Car Park costing a minimum of £17...even for 15 minutes !! You won't get killed in the rush!
Although minor by comparison the Viewing Park is closed to vehicles while some work is carried out.....the alternative is a Car Park costing a minimum of £17...even for 15 minutes !! You won't get killed in the rush!
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'If 100% of clients are totally pi**ed off with the whole concept of drop off charges and most say they will avoid BOH in future how can that possiby protect peoples jobs.'
There are not many people who will actually avoid Bournemouth in the future, maybe a few dozen, maybe a few hundred and if they are daft enough to pay extra petrol to avoid £2.50 then that's their choice. As has been explained several times on here,the airport HAS to make money to survive. It only has the choice of imposing a departure / development charge on tickets (WHICH AIRLINES WILL NOT TOLERATE) or to make money from the duty free or car parking. The car park charge, unpopular as it is, makes them money. This prevents them from going bust - it's as simple as that. They may not be very good at explaining it but you only have to look at MAG's accounts to see the problem.
Also, as has been pointed out, several other airports charge too, whether it's for drop off or via a development tax (such as at Exeter). Incidentally, the compulsory use of the car park also prevents the situation that used to occur where dozens of cars would sit on yellow lines / taxi ranks etc waiting to pick up passengers and happily blocking access for other users of the airport.
It's just part of the modern aviation business, cheap flights mean airlines do not pay much in landing or other fees to airports therefore airports are forced to charge for other services. Simples.
'If 100% of clients are totally pi**ed off with the whole concept of drop off charges and most say they will avoid BOH in future how can that possiby protect peoples jobs.'
There are not many people who will actually avoid Bournemouth in the future, maybe a few dozen, maybe a few hundred and if they are daft enough to pay extra petrol to avoid £2.50 then that's their choice. As has been explained several times on here,the airport HAS to make money to survive. It only has the choice of imposing a departure / development charge on tickets (WHICH AIRLINES WILL NOT TOLERATE) or to make money from the duty free or car parking. The car park charge, unpopular as it is, makes them money. This prevents them from going bust - it's as simple as that. They may not be very good at explaining it but you only have to look at MAG's accounts to see the problem.
Also, as has been pointed out, several other airports charge too, whether it's for drop off or via a development tax (such as at Exeter). Incidentally, the compulsory use of the car park also prevents the situation that used to occur where dozens of cars would sit on yellow lines / taxi ranks etc waiting to pick up passengers and happily blocking access for other users of the airport.
It's just part of the modern aviation business, cheap flights mean airlines do not pay much in landing or other fees to airports therefore airports are forced to charge for other services. Simples.
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Bournemouth drop off charges
It's alright ranting on about car parking charges...BUT....people simply dropping someone off do not wish to use ..or even enter a car park.
I think you will find that Exeter (for eg) costs £1 to park for 30 minutes but also allows 10 mins drop off for free.
It's all about business relationship and these charges...though maybe not a massive amount , create a huge amount of bitterness and ill feeling.
When times are hard they should be going out of their way to welcome people and make them feel appreciated.
The powers that be at BOH couldn't understand that if it was written on the side of a Ryanair 737.
I think you will find that Exeter (for eg) costs £1 to park for 30 minutes but also allows 10 mins drop off for free.
It's all about business relationship and these charges...though maybe not a massive amount , create a huge amount of bitterness and ill feeling.
When times are hard they should be going out of their way to welcome people and make them feel appreciated.
The powers that be at BOH couldn't understand that if it was written on the side of a Ryanair 737.
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Not sure who's ranting on. I agree that it is particularly bad PR to charge for drop off but they aren't the only ones and my point was that they are losing money and need every income stream they can get, even if it alienates some users of the airport. People may not wish to use the car park but they do wish to use the airport and it has an absolute right to charge for that. People can freely choose not to use it but as an airport user I hope it survives!
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