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Old 21st Feb 2012, 05:06
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Potential niche routes in BOH

What is the liklihood of Monarch considering opening scheduled niche routes from BOH? Since they operated out of NQY are they now totally against second tier regional airports?

Open niche routes from BOH with statistical demand according to CAA O&D stats include: Gibralter, Funchal, Innsbruck, Venice, Rome, Almeria, Heraklion, Orlando, Barbados, Cancun, Barcelona (sorry for the mixup, no order of demand)
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 08:28
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niche routes

If the routes were viable they would have been taken up some time ago.Afew of the routes you say have been tried and not worked. With the econemy like it is at this time. then none of the lh haul routes would not work. let alone the shorter routes.
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Some of the longer haul routes listed are almost certain to have been cruise charters, so are not really indicative of demand to those destinations in their own right.
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Old 22nd Feb 2012, 08:58
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I think the best that could happen now is to encourage existing operators to continue to operate through the 3 winter months

Having done an excellent job bringing 6 new routes this year its now time to secure winter schedules . Easy Jet would be a good example to try Grenoble and Innsbruck again as no one to compete with this time and the demand is there according to local travel agents who have booked a huge amount of passengers from the area to Bristol / Southampton and Gatwick for both ski and sun routes for those 3 missing months

Inghams Ski was a huge loss and one i still dont understand , and nothing from them this winter . With the loss of Las Palmas with Thomson is a mystery as well for this winter ?

Only 2 cruise charters to Barbados again next winter given they have been full up and considering there were more than 10 a few years ago the airport needs to look away from Bath Travel more and go towards P and O / Cunard direct
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However a few years ago we were not in a recession & there was no APD to add considerable extra cost per head to longhaul destinations!
The market has changed. Look at other UK regionals & you will see they have a reduced offering to these destinations too.
Until the market picks up airlines are likely to stick to what they know makes money. Sadly untried & untested routes are likely to remain so for a few years yet.
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No threads since the 22nd of Feb. Have they closed the Airport or something. I thought the future looked quite bright, and maybe management have got some new destinations up their sleeves and are just waiting for the right time to announce them. (wishfull thinking)
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Old 23rd Mar 2012, 18:49
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Bournemouth handled 31 , 000 in Feb ( bit late with figures this month )

With the start of Ryanair this obviously increased the figures with good loads on Alicante , Malaga , Murcia

Tenerife , Sharm , Arrecife and Turin with Thomson were high in the 180 passenger average on the 737 800

Barbados cruise flight was full with Bath Travel on a First Choice 767 300 and Geneva was 67 % with Easy Jet with approx 105 pax per flight

Blue Islands finally saw a good load of about 15 pax per flight after 3 months on the route to Jersey with the J31

Easy Jet have started to release there winter schedule and the good news is that they are still operating a service from Bournemouth to Geneva but there is no flight scheduled for a Tuesday and Wednesday for the season , however they have kept the 2 x service on a Saturday , after 8 years on the route its still good news in these times of cut backs

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Old 23rd Mar 2012, 19:20
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Bournemouth will return to looking like an airport on Sunday!! As for this Summers new additions and changes from the main operators...

Aer Lingus Regional:

New Routes

Dublin 6x weekly (Daily ex. Sat) ATR 72 from 1st May

Blue Islands:

Jersy - 3x weekly J31/32 Wasn't operated last summer

Easyjet

Geneva continues 7x weekly until 15th April.

Ryanair:

1 based aircraft as it was last summer, Faro loses a weekly flight (Now 3 weekly) and Murcia gains 2 (Now 5 weekly).

New Routes

Carcassonne - 2x weekly (Mon & Fri) From 26th March
Malta - 2x weekly (Mon & Thurs) From 26th March
Rhodes - 1x weekly (Weds) From 28th March
Wroclaw - 2x weekly (Mon & Fri) From 30th March

Thomson

As last year 1 based 738 Sharm is not operating this summer but will be back for the winter and other than Mahon there are no over major changes to the schedule.

New Routes

Mahon - 1x weekly (Mon) From 7th May
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Good post about the schedules Adfly

Only other new route with Thomson is Arrecife on a Sunday as a continue from the winter

Newmarket holidays also have a large programme of flights during the summer to Italy etc ( big demand here as Palmair found with there summer programme years ago !! ) using Small Planet 737 300 on most Sundays / Mondays along with the odd charter with Monarch using A320 to Funchal
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Bournemouth has a new Managing Director

Paul Knight who has worked at the airport in various roles for 31 years has been appointed the new MD .

Rob Goldsmith who has been the MD for the last 4 years has been seconded to work on a special project for the MAG group
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Winter opportunity for easyJet

easyJet should base 1 aircraft for the winter season at BOH to operate the following routes that have proved popular in the past and would be perfect for the A319. If the routes prove successful then a bigger S13 programme would be warranted.

INN x2
SZG x2
FNC x2
TLV x2
ATH x2
AMS x7
EDI x6
BHD x4

This could add around 180,000 passengers to BOH's winter total, or around 30,000 per month.

BOH would be desperate for this - incentives would be available!
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the following routes that have proved popular in the past
Since when has Tel Aviv and Athens been popular from BOH?!!

would be perfect for the A319.
Why would the A319 be more "perfect" than some of the routes which have already been tried with a 737?
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easyJet should base 1 aircraft for the winter season at BOH to operate the following routes that have proved popular in the past and would be perfect for the A319. If the routes prove successful then a bigger S13 programme would be warranted.
I was under the impression Easyjet need at least three aircraft to make a base viable? Not to mention the apparent shortage of aircraft availability at the moment too.
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Think we have been down this road before with a " Wish List " of Easy Jet flights from Bournemouth !

They are not going to do anything at the moment look at the Geneva for next winter , down 2 services but at least they are still operating , the best we could have hoped for next winter was a " W " pattern of prehaps INN / SZG / GNB ( loads were always really high on these routes with various carriers , and popular ! )

Monarch would be the best option now with there new ski routes starting next winter from various UK airport s but again i am sure they have been down the BOH road before with this one just like every other UK carrier , really frustrating i know especially when the demand is there !!

Its amazing to see how how in the summer BOH have 26 arrivals / departures on a Monday yet in the winter months its looking like zero at the moment on this particular day on certain months
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BOH MAR12 Pax stats

Some good news. BOH saw an increase in passengers of 4.6% in March 2012 versus March 2011. A total of 40,829 passed through the new terminal which compares favourably with other regionals such as Doncaster, Exeter, Prestwick and Cardiff.

Strong performing routes included Geneva which carried 19% more passengers compared to last year. This route carried more passengers than the daily easyJet Belfast-Geneva, and very similar numbers to the daily Newcastle-Geneva service.

Spanish routes saw increases year on year too.
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Old 20th Apr 2012, 17:35
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Good news. BOH seems to be slowly developing. There are often some unrealistic aims for the Airport posted on here, but seems to be going in the right direction. Still think further growth will come from FR rather than Easyjet making it a base or European Airlines using it as a destination. Lets hope Air Lingus Regional to Dublin works well.
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Old 20th Apr 2012, 18:07
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I agree good figures for March with Ryanair , Thomson and Easy Jet

Looks like Bath Travel are only operating 2 Barbados cruise flights for next winter and then ending the service as advertising " last chance to fly from Bournemouth to Barbados " on there web site ?

I hope i have mis read this but certainly the number of flights have gone down each year from about 12 flights a few years ago to 2 next year ( loads always full though )

Prehaps Thomson Long Haul could be persuaded to take over the odd charter for the winter season
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Old 23rd Apr 2012, 11:28
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Thumbs up Olympic visitors

Bournemouth airport will have 15 slots for visiting aircraft ( inc those used by scheduled and holiday traffic) per hour over a 24 hour period. some slots have already been allocated.
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Old 23rd Apr 2012, 13:43
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'Bournemouth airport will have 15 slots for visiting aircraft ( inc those used by scheduled and holiday traffic) per hour over a 24 hour period. some slots have already been allocated.'

Can you explain exactly what this means? The airport isn't open 24 hours - only a few flights operate at night outside official opening times. What slots have been allocated so far?
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Why is the airport not open 24 hoursl
Check ut these times

3rd April
17:15 NPT022Y G-BTPH British Aerospace ATP 2015 Atlantic Airlines
18:34 GCTCD G-CTCD Diamond DA42 Twin Star 42.079 Ctc Aviation Group
Plc
20:07 -------- G-LOFE Lockheed L188C Electra 1144 Atlantic Airlines
20:19 NPT022B G-BTPH British Aerospace ATP 2015 Atlantic Airlines
21:05 -------- G-CEGR Beech 200 Super King Air BB-351 Henfield Lodge
Ltd
22:06 NPT031E G-BTPH British Aerospace ATP 2015 Atlantic Airlines
22:30 RYR52ZN EI-ENP Boeing 737-8AS 40304 Ryanair


4th April
01:06 TOM4GD G-TAWB Boeing 737-8K5/W 37242 Thomson Airways
02:12 AWC13R G-ZAPW Boeing 737-3L9 24219 Titan Airways
03:03 NPT022P G-MANH British Aerospace ATP 2017 Atlantic Airlines
05:24 NPT543 G-LOFE Lockheed L188C Electra 1144 Atlantic Airlines
05:53 NPT022G G-MANH British Aerospace ATP 2017 Atlantic Airlines
07:12 FRA67 G-MAFE Dornier 228-202K 8009 Cobham Leasing Ltd
07:20 RYR3351 EI-DCR Boeing 737-8AS 33811 Ryanair
08:01 GCTCD G-CTCD Diamond DA42 Twin Star 42.079 Ctc Aviation Group
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