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However this still doesn't explain why flights which were so popular (winter Sat ski flights and winter sun flights to Malaga and the Canaries and Cruise connection flights just to list a few) have been gradually whittled away to oblivion.
Even the airport staff (those that still exist) are baffled by the lack of interest in anyone providing these services.
Even the airport staff (those that still exist) are baffled by the lack of interest in anyone providing these services.
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I'm afraid Groundloop you can say that to you are blue in the face on this thread, it just doesn't register. They just don't understand a business even on a layman's terms 
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BOH stats for Oct'12 encouraging
Very positive news on the stats for Oct'12, almost 28% ahead on last year putting through over 80,000 passengers. One of the fastest growing airports in the UK behind Southend which of course is growing at something like 1000% from such a small base.
The year to date total is a respectable 681,000 too which is favourable when compared with airports of a similar scale that have suffered far worse during the economic woes.
The year to date total is a respectable 681,000 too which is favourable when compared with airports of a similar scale that have suffered far worse during the economic woes.
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So BOH is around 70,000 pax above last years total already! I predict we will see around 730,000 pax in total for 2012 which is a very impressive increase on last year and also only ~20,000 behind 2010! November should also see big increases vs last year thanks to the late summer hols which meant TOM operated some of their summer routes for a little longer than usual and Ryanair also delayed their annual pullout from BOH by around a week to make the most of it.
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One of the fastest growing airports in the UK behind Southend
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Glad to hear that Bournemouth continues to do well! Shame to see it in a such a quiet state over the winter period, but nice to see JFK on the departure board for tomorrow! I realise its only a one off Christmas charter, but still nice to see!
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Just an observation from the Ryanair website.
If you look at the cheap flights section on their website for BOH flights it confirms they restart March 16th 2013.
Also it list the flights as follows:- Carcassonne, Pisa, Wroclaw, Alicante, Faro, Girona, Ibiza, Malaga, Malta, Murcia, Palma, Fuerteventura, Gran Canaria, Tenerife South, Lanzarote
Only one the list is missing from last year is Rhodes, and that's the only one not available to book. No new destinations for next year?
If you look at the cheap flights section on their website for BOH flights it confirms they restart March 16th 2013.
Also it list the flights as follows:- Carcassonne, Pisa, Wroclaw, Alicante, Faro, Girona, Ibiza, Malaga, Malta, Murcia, Palma, Fuerteventura, Gran Canaria, Tenerife South, Lanzarote
Only one the list is missing from last year is Rhodes, and that's the only one not available to book. No new destinations for next year?
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Today the Security Staff have been given a 'welcome to the company' presentation from MAG who have apparently been too busy to do it before now. Surely thats a good sign that MAG arent looking to offload the airport?
Apparently the projections were optomistic with losses in 2012 but huge growth within three years on the commercial side, hopefully thats a sign of something we don't know, or am i just a bit hopeful!?!?
Apparently the projections were optomistic with losses in 2012 but huge growth within three years on the commercial side, hopefully thats a sign of something we don't know, or am i just a bit hopeful!?!?
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The security team became MAG employees in April, just as it gets busy for any airport so they probably didn't have chance to be fair.
Bournemouth figures have been showing around 10% climb this year which is phenomenal in this climate, but I'm inclined to think that last year was just dire!
I don't think growth will be much at any regional airport, it's just a case of squeezing as much money from the 'poor' passenger as possible. Judging by those figures people have not been put of by the car park prices
Bournemouth figures have been showing around 10% climb this year which is phenomenal in this climate, but I'm inclined to think that last year was just dire!
I don't think growth will be much at any regional airport, it's just a case of squeezing as much money from the 'poor' passenger as possible. Judging by those figures people have not been put of by the car park prices
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Huge growth within 3 years?
BOH, please explain what you mean by huge growth on the commercial side within 3 years?
easyJet have been courting BOH for years and years - I can only imagine they have factored in a base development of some sort.
easyJet must be reassured by Aer Lingus on Dublin - Ryanair have not come back on to the route to kill them off.
easyJet have been courting BOH for years and years - I can only imagine they have factored in a base development of some sort.
easyJet must be reassured by Aer Lingus on Dublin - Ryanair have not come back on to the route to kill them off.
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easyJet must be reassured by Aer Lingus on Dublin - Ryanair have not come back on to the route to kill them off.
With easyJet focusing on key market areas such as Milan for expansion and now that 50% of revenue comes from outside of the UK, the only reason that I could see them looking at Bournemouth would be to hit Flybe hard ex Southampton and attract some of their clients over, easyJet have been quite focussed on taking Flybe on on some of their thinner routes, but starting up a base to do so with all of the costs involved, I am not so sure.
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If the airport will make a profit with the commercial expansion on the N side then thats great even with little or no growth in the passenger side for now. Still better than a lot of the UK regional airports.
EI-BUD (that's an Aer Lingus 737-300 right?) I think I wasn't clear enough. I didn't mean easyJet would be interested in BOH-DUB, just that Ryanair didn't make a predatory move on EI's BOH route.
Of course there is demand during the winter - just not to some of the crazy places Ryanair fly to! People don't stop flying between Nov-Mar. But they certainly will not pay what they pay in the summer to fly from somewhere like BOH to somewhere like Carcassone or Wroclaw or Pisa were the weather can be just as bad as BOH. FR's own business model is at fault. They have to ground 80 aircraft each winter. Does easyJet ground that many a/c? No because they are serving airports people need to get to year-round.
Another point: FR's DUB-UK market has been drastically cut back all over UK due DUB airport fees and 737-800 being too big. Nothing to do with BOH specifically. And no reflection on potential demand from BOH to other cities.
EI-BUD (that's an Aer Lingus 737-300 right?) I think I wasn't clear enough. I didn't mean easyJet would be interested in BOH-DUB, just that Ryanair didn't make a predatory move on EI's BOH route.
Of course there is demand during the winter - just not to some of the crazy places Ryanair fly to! People don't stop flying between Nov-Mar. But they certainly will not pay what they pay in the summer to fly from somewhere like BOH to somewhere like Carcassone or Wroclaw or Pisa were the weather can be just as bad as BOH. FR's own business model is at fault. They have to ground 80 aircraft each winter. Does easyJet ground that many a/c? No because they are serving airports people need to get to year-round.
Another point: FR's DUB-UK market has been drastically cut back all over UK due DUB airport fees and 737-800 being too big. Nothing to do with BOH specifically. And no reflection on potential demand from BOH to other cities.
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The new Dublin route has been up and running now for 6 months
Figures for the route are below , the route drops to 4 a week this winter then back unto 6 a week from end of June with a new lunch time departure and Saturday added and Monday dropped
May 2237 41 pax
June 2454 49 pax
July 2556 47 pax
Aug 2896 54 pax
Sep 2470 49 pax
Oct 2200 41 pax
Ryanair are now due back on 14 March and are still finalising there summer programme which is due to be amended in the next few weeks , Rhodes is not showing at the moment to be on sale but then its also not on sale from any other UK airport .
Figures for the route are below , the route drops to 4 a week this winter then back unto 6 a week from end of June with a new lunch time departure and Saturday added and Monday dropped
May 2237 41 pax
June 2454 49 pax
July 2556 47 pax
Aug 2896 54 pax
Sep 2470 49 pax
Oct 2200 41 pax
Ryanair are now due back on 14 March and are still finalising there summer programme which is due to be amended in the next few weeks , Rhodes is not showing at the moment to be on sale but then its also not on sale from any other UK airport .
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As it was explained to me (so third hand) they refered to the terminal/passenger operations as the commercial side. The north side is making profit,the commercial side has made a significant loss this year, the airport has been given two years to turn it around and have projected being profitable next year with growth year two and significant growth year 3.
I imagine (my view) they have to say growth otherwise in 2 years time its byebye MAG
MARKEYD - do you have contact Ryanair side? Is there growth from them?
I imagine (my view) they have to say growth otherwise in 2 years time its byebye MAG
MARKEYD - do you have contact Ryanair side? Is there growth from them?
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Please tell me what clientel want to fly to Hurn?
The only airport I can compare Hurn to is Blackpool, i.e its main billing is as a British seaside resort.
These two airports might be able to sustain a few bucket and spade routes for the grey lot but thats it! Hurn needs another Palmair and thats the limit.
The only airport I can compare Hurn to is Blackpool, i.e its main billing is as a British seaside resort.
These two airports might be able to sustain a few bucket and spade routes for the grey lot but thats it! Hurn needs another Palmair and thats the limit.