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This man managed to win lots of awards that he nailed on the wall and the bosses loved him. Strangely, all the staff hated him and cheered when he left.
There are lots of them around but the single most successful one that you will see in your life time is called: Tony Blair.
There are lots of them around but the single most successful one that you will see in your life time is called: Tony Blair.
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"Y'Know, Y'Know",Y'Know".
Tony Blair. Ah, I remember him Ted. He had this great tune, I remember it Ted. "Things Can Only Get Better". Great Keyboard riff, Ted. I wonder what happened to Tony Blair Ted. I wonder what happened to that keyboard player?
Well, Dougal........
Tony Blair. Ah, I remember him Ted. He had this great tune, I remember it Ted. "Things Can Only Get Better". Great Keyboard riff, Ted. I wonder what happened to Tony Blair Ted. I wonder what happened to that keyboard player?
Well, Dougal........
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Quote: ""Y'Know, Y'Know",Y'Know".
Tony Blair. Ah, I remember him Ted. He had this great tune, I remember it Ted. "Things Can Only Get Better". Great Keyboard riff, Ted. I wonder what happened to Tony Blair Ted. I wonder what happened to that keyboard player?
Well, Dougal........
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"*&^%$£()*^$"£%^^&&&**(!"
"What was that, Jack?, and no, Mrs Doyle, I don't want more tea!"
Tony Blair. Ah, I remember him Ted. He had this great tune, I remember it Ted. "Things Can Only Get Better". Great Keyboard riff, Ted. I wonder what happened to Tony Blair Ted. I wonder what happened to that keyboard player?
Well, Dougal........
""*&^%$£()*^$"£%^^&&&**(!"
"What was that, Jack?, and no, Mrs Doyle, I don't want more tea!"
Bid to accelerate Davies Commission report
We welcome the broad thrust of the Davies Commission and the desire to achieve a political consensus that will result in an enduring long-term decision about the UK’s aviation infrastructure.
We are particularly pleased that the Davies Commission will be adopting a sensible approach by looking at wider topics such as future demand, climate change and noise issues and not just selecting airports where expansion should take place.
It is vital that the Commission takes a view of the wider economic and environmental costs and benefits of aviation and we will be seeking to provide the Commission with robust evidence on these issues. We look forward to constructive engagement with Sir Howard Davies, his commissioners and staff over the coming months.
However, we do have concerns around the length of time before the Commission makes their final report. We argue that such a lengthy period of uncertainty is not at all helpful to businesses seeking to make investment decisions or indeed the wider economy of the UK.
Whilst we recognise the political sensitivities surrounding aviation policy, we believe that the electorate and particularly the residents of West London deserve to know what implications the Commission’s recommendations will have on their lives. Consequently, we the undersigned call upon the Government to bring forward the final report of the Davies Commission to a date before the General Election in 2015 and to ask Sir Howard to lay out very clearly the direction of his thinking in his interim report at the end of this year.
Yours sincerely,
Zac Goldsmith MP
Baroness Sally Hamwee
Baroness Susan Kramer
Mary Macleod MP
Seema Malhotra MP
John McDonnell MP
Andy Slaughter MP
Cllr Nicholas Botterill (Leader, Hammersmith & Fulham)
Cllr Steve Bullock (Leader, Lewisham)
Cllr Ravi Govindia (Leader, Wandsworth)
Cllr Jo Lovelock (Leader, Reading)
Cllr Lib Peck (Leader, Lambeth)
Cllr Raymond Puddifoot (Leader, Hillingdon)
Cllr Roger Reed (Deputy Leader, South Bucks)
Cllr Jagdish Sharma (Leader, Hounslow)
Cllr Lord Nicholas True (Leader, Richmond)
John Stewart (Chair HACAN)
Christine Taylor (Vice-Chair NoTRAG)
Peter Willan (Chair Richmond Heathrow Campaign)
We are particularly pleased that the Davies Commission will be adopting a sensible approach by looking at wider topics such as future demand, climate change and noise issues and not just selecting airports where expansion should take place.
It is vital that the Commission takes a view of the wider economic and environmental costs and benefits of aviation and we will be seeking to provide the Commission with robust evidence on these issues. We look forward to constructive engagement with Sir Howard Davies, his commissioners and staff over the coming months.
However, we do have concerns around the length of time before the Commission makes their final report. We argue that such a lengthy period of uncertainty is not at all helpful to businesses seeking to make investment decisions or indeed the wider economy of the UK.
Whilst we recognise the political sensitivities surrounding aviation policy, we believe that the electorate and particularly the residents of West London deserve to know what implications the Commission’s recommendations will have on their lives. Consequently, we the undersigned call upon the Government to bring forward the final report of the Davies Commission to a date before the General Election in 2015 and to ask Sir Howard to lay out very clearly the direction of his thinking in his interim report at the end of this year.
Yours sincerely,
Zac Goldsmith MP
Baroness Sally Hamwee
Baroness Susan Kramer
Mary Macleod MP
Seema Malhotra MP
John McDonnell MP
Andy Slaughter MP
Cllr Nicholas Botterill (Leader, Hammersmith & Fulham)
Cllr Steve Bullock (Leader, Lewisham)
Cllr Ravi Govindia (Leader, Wandsworth)
Cllr Jo Lovelock (Leader, Reading)
Cllr Lib Peck (Leader, Lambeth)
Cllr Raymond Puddifoot (Leader, Hillingdon)
Cllr Roger Reed (Deputy Leader, South Bucks)
Cllr Jagdish Sharma (Leader, Hounslow)
Cllr Lord Nicholas True (Leader, Richmond)
John Stewart (Chair HACAN)
Christine Taylor (Vice-Chair NoTRAG)
Peter Willan (Chair Richmond Heathrow Campaign)
most of those people want a NO
For me, the Davies Commission should include these key stakeholders (if the party has governmental intervention)...
Politicians
Boris Johnson (Con) - Mayor of London
Louise Ellman MP (Lab) - Chair of Transport Select Committee
Patrick McLoughlin (Con) - Secretary of State for Transport
Maria Eagle (Lab) - Shadow Secretary of State for Transport
Airport Bosses
Charlie Cornish - CEO, Manchester Airports Group
Colin Matthews - CEO, Heathrow Airport Holdings
Francisco Reynes - CEO, Abertis (Foreign Airport Operator)
Airline Executives
Willie Walsh - CEO, International Airlines Group
Carolyn McCall - CEO, easyJet
Craig Kreeger - CEO, Virgin Atlantic
(or other available directors)
Pressure Groups
John Stewart - HACAN
Bill Rigby - Friends of the Earth
Matthew Sinclair - TaxPayers Alliance
Richard Wellings - Institute for Economic Affairs
Others
Murdo Morrison - Flight International
Captain Douglas Brown - Chief Pilot - British Airways
Len McCluskey - UNITE Union
It is absolutely imperative that a balanced argument is heard, although it is pretty inevitable that a Commission would have a bias in several directions.
Politicians
Boris Johnson (Con) - Mayor of London
Louise Ellman MP (Lab) - Chair of Transport Select Committee
Patrick McLoughlin (Con) - Secretary of State for Transport
Maria Eagle (Lab) - Shadow Secretary of State for Transport
Airport Bosses
Charlie Cornish - CEO, Manchester Airports Group
Colin Matthews - CEO, Heathrow Airport Holdings
Francisco Reynes - CEO, Abertis (Foreign Airport Operator)
Airline Executives
Willie Walsh - CEO, International Airlines Group
Carolyn McCall - CEO, easyJet
Craig Kreeger - CEO, Virgin Atlantic
(or other available directors)
Pressure Groups
John Stewart - HACAN
Bill Rigby - Friends of the Earth
Matthew Sinclair - TaxPayers Alliance
Richard Wellings - Institute for Economic Affairs
Others
Murdo Morrison - Flight International
Captain Douglas Brown - Chief Pilot - British Airways
Len McCluskey - UNITE Union
It is absolutely imperative that a balanced argument is heard, although it is pretty inevitable that a Commission would have a bias in several directions.
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AND as they keep being overlooked I would add NATS who will have to manage any expansion.....
It has been said that the movements generated by an extra RW can easily be handled...hmmmm
Hope that expansion of LGW LCY and even Sothend has been factored in.
Cannot see STN standing still either !
6 major airports in such a small area ?
#madness
It has been said that the movements generated by an extra RW can easily be handled...hmmmm
Hope that expansion of LGW LCY and even Sothend has been factored in.
Cannot see STN standing still either !
6 major airports in such a small area ?
#madness
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6 major airports in such a small area ?
#madness
#madness
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I'd be very interested to see what happens to LGW in particular IF the Davies commission recommends a 4 rwy hub (either at an expanded LHR or newly built somewhere else)
It would be logical for BA to consolidate all their southern operation at that one location (wherever it is), pulling out of LGW completely. Not sure how that would leave LGW, seeing as EZY are concentrated mostly at LTN and RYR at STN. Is there enough periphary traffic to sustain LGW to the level it would need/want?
As for BA at MAN, it would seem to make some sense for them to base some a/c there post-LGW. Would depend on how the numbers stack up, which of course they didn't when BA were there 20 years ago, but wouldn't be at all surprised to see it especially given the massive investment that is going into MAN
It would be logical for BA to consolidate all their southern operation at that one location (wherever it is), pulling out of LGW completely. Not sure how that would leave LGW, seeing as EZY are concentrated mostly at LTN and RYR at STN. Is there enough periphary traffic to sustain LGW to the level it would need/want?
As for BA at MAN, it would seem to make some sense for them to base some a/c there post-LGW. Would depend on how the numbers stack up, which of course they didn't when BA were there 20 years ago, but wouldn't be at all surprised to see it especially given the massive investment that is going into MAN
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Quote: "I was not surprised when he ignored everything I had suggested. Later, he won an award for 'investing in people'. Fantastic!"
Quote: ""Investors In People', I remember that, whatever happened to that, Ted?
Well Dougal................"
IIRC my notification of redundancy letter had the "investors in people" logo on it.
Quote: "I'd be very interested to see what happens to LGW in particular IF the Davies commission recommends a 4 rwy hub (either at an expanded LHR or newly built somewhere else)
It would be logical for BA to consolidate all their southern operation at that one location (wherever it is), pulling out of LGW completely. Not sure how that would leave LGW, seeing as EZY are concentrated mostly at LTN and RYR at STN. Is there enough periphary traffic to sustain LGW to the level it would need/want?"
Think the effect of a 4-rwy LHR would relieve LGW of the immediate need for another rwy as there would be no capacity constraints at LHR and the associated delays and congestion should disappear.
One can see the logic in BA, and VS for that matter, moving their LGW operation to consolidate at LHR and save a pile of money. Most of the longhaul at LGW would also almost certainly move as well as most it is presently there while waiting for LHR slots.
Very much doubt if it would be the same for an estuary airport, irrespective of the number of rwys.
That would leave LGW as a busy mainly shorthaul, point-to-point airport with a mixture of legacy and no-frills carriers, and holiday charter companies. It would probably remain the second busiest UK airport. It might be necessary to rethink the policy of squeezing out smaller (BE-type) aircraft with higher charges.
BTW, U2 now has a much bigger base at LGW than at LTN.
Quote: "As for BA at MAN, it would seem to make some sense for them to base some a/c there post-LGW. Would depend on how the numbers stack up, which of course they didn't when BA were there 20 years ago, but wouldn't be at all surprised to see it especially given the massive investment that is going into MAN"
Think that if BA could be convinced that there is money to be made from a MAN (and/or BHX, GLA, etc..) secondary hub, they would be in there like "a ferret up a drainpipe". Has anything changed in 20 years? is there now sufficient premium business?
Quote: ""Investors In People', I remember that, whatever happened to that, Ted?
Well Dougal................"
IIRC my notification of redundancy letter had the "investors in people" logo on it.
Quote: "I'd be very interested to see what happens to LGW in particular IF the Davies commission recommends a 4 rwy hub (either at an expanded LHR or newly built somewhere else)
It would be logical for BA to consolidate all their southern operation at that one location (wherever it is), pulling out of LGW completely. Not sure how that would leave LGW, seeing as EZY are concentrated mostly at LTN and RYR at STN. Is there enough periphary traffic to sustain LGW to the level it would need/want?"
Think the effect of a 4-rwy LHR would relieve LGW of the immediate need for another rwy as there would be no capacity constraints at LHR and the associated delays and congestion should disappear.
One can see the logic in BA, and VS for that matter, moving their LGW operation to consolidate at LHR and save a pile of money. Most of the longhaul at LGW would also almost certainly move as well as most it is presently there while waiting for LHR slots.
Very much doubt if it would be the same for an estuary airport, irrespective of the number of rwys.
That would leave LGW as a busy mainly shorthaul, point-to-point airport with a mixture of legacy and no-frills carriers, and holiday charter companies. It would probably remain the second busiest UK airport. It might be necessary to rethink the policy of squeezing out smaller (BE-type) aircraft with higher charges.
BTW, U2 now has a much bigger base at LGW than at LTN.
Quote: "As for BA at MAN, it would seem to make some sense for them to base some a/c there post-LGW. Would depend on how the numbers stack up, which of course they didn't when BA were there 20 years ago, but wouldn't be at all surprised to see it especially given the massive investment that is going into MAN"
Think that if BA could be convinced that there is money to be made from a MAN (and/or BHX, GLA, etc..) secondary hub, they would be in there like "a ferret up a drainpipe". Has anything changed in 20 years? is there now sufficient premium business?
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It would be logical for BA to consolidate all their southern operation at that one location
To marry LGW to a discussion of BA basing aircraft at Manchester is strange. It's not BA since BA pulled MAN, it was 2007, and not a huge amount has changed since then.
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Parish and MP ?horrified? by out of blue Vale airport plans - Community - Bucks Herald
I think some journo somewhere must have been smoking his socks ...........!
I think some journo somewhere must have been smoking his socks ...........!
A parish council has slammed potential plans to build an airport just five miles from Aylesbury as ‘unreasonable and unfair’.
Heathrow Airport Holdings is said to be exploring 10 options for its expansion, including an airport in Haddenham which would see Long Crendon and Chearsley completely destroyed.
Haddenham is already the location of a Second World War glider airfield and the plans would include four runways if they went ahead.
Heathrow Airport Holdings is said to be exploring 10 options for its expansion, including an airport in Haddenham which would see Long Crendon and Chearsley completely destroyed.
Haddenham is already the location of a Second World War glider airfield and the plans would include four runways if they went ahead.
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Link doesn't seem to work.
BBC News - Thames airport 'should be rejected' - MPs report
And a trailer for today's report from the Tranpsort [sic] Committee:
Tranpsort Committee to publish aviation strategy report on Friday 10 May - News from Parliament - UK Parliament
BBC News - Thames airport 'should be rejected' - MPs report
And a trailer for today's report from the Tranpsort [sic] Committee:
Tranpsort Committee to publish aviation strategy report on Friday 10 May - News from Parliament - UK Parliament
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BBC News - Thames airport 'should be rejected' - MPs report
The above link should hopefully work, including video of MP Louise Ellman giving her view as Char of the committee.
The above link should hopefully work, including video of MP Louise Ellman giving her view as Char of the committee.