New Thames Airport for London
In which, with a slip of the tongue, says infrastructure investment would cost the exchequer £30 million - faithfully then reported by the BBC without question 
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Boris Johnson defends his Thames Airport proposals.
Boris Johnson Defends Estuary Airport Plan, Commons Committee Want Third Heathrow Runway
Boris Johnson defends his Thames Airport proposals.
Boris Johnson Defends Estuary Airport Plan, Commons Committee Want Third Heathrow Runway
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True, but the Tories have, as usual, shot their bolt as a result of internal party divisions and are probably set for another period in the wilderness. Whatever happens, the estuary airport idea is dead.
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True, but the Tories have, as usual, shot their bolt as a result of internal party divisions and are probably set for another period in the wilderness.
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jabird has nailed the prevailing view - as I see and hear it in my circle of friends.
The only certainty is that the politicos will continue to fudge it. Fudging means nothing happens. Not more LHR and certainly no Island. As has been stated, all the big votes and easy money are on the status quo - however stupid that may be. The reasons have been listed in this (and other) threads.
The only certainty is that the politicos will continue to fudge it. Fudging means nothing happens. Not more LHR and certainly no Island. As has been stated, all the big votes and easy money are on the status quo - however stupid that may be. The reasons have been listed in this (and other) threads.
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All parties have factions and divisions, the problem voters have with the Tories is that they still haven't sorted out the mess the last lot created, but they aren't convinced the last lot will be able to come back and poop-scoop their 8 year old dry turd either.
it'll be a Lab-Lib coalition I think
What will the 2015 Airport review show? Expand LHR of course. Will it happen? Well................
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Quote: "it'll be a Lab-Lib coalition I think"
Hope not, nothing could be worse! It would be all about irrelevant and unnecessary constitutional changes (that people don't want, as shown by the AV referendum) and to hell with the economy, unemployment, growth and growing gap between rich and poor.
To put it another way, it would be a "chattering classes"/Guardian readers' dream come true. An answer to an armchair "gucci" socialist's prayers.
In a hung parliament situation, a minority government (whether Conservative or Labour) would be infinitely better.
Quote: "True. Ed and Ed make a most unconvincing pair."
Exactly, so imagine them linked up with Calamity Clegg!
Hope not, nothing could be worse! It would be all about irrelevant and unnecessary constitutional changes (that people don't want, as shown by the AV referendum) and to hell with the economy, unemployment, growth and growing gap between rich and poor.
To put it another way, it would be a "chattering classes"/Guardian readers' dream come true. An answer to an armchair "gucci" socialist's prayers.
In a hung parliament situation, a minority government (whether Conservative or Labour) would be infinitely better.
Quote: "True. Ed and Ed make a most unconvincing pair."
Exactly, so imagine them linked up with Calamity Clegg!
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Quote: "True. Ed and Ed make a most unconvincing pair."
Exactly, so imagine them linked up with Calamity Clegg!
Exactly, so imagine them linked up with Calamity Clegg!
The Lib Dems are going to take some serious hits - except where they have very strong personalities who already have decent margins.
That really makes it a two horse race, but neither is a very strong runner. As if Ed is already bad enough, he is only there because he's not Dave, and if he wins in 2015, it will be because he's not Dave.
Now to get back to this thread, I don't care how daft Boris Island is, Boris himself would certainly stir things up - but I don't see him becoming an MP again before 2015, so I imagine he's waiting til Cameron is deposed at that time, then perhaps he hopes for a lame interim leader to be chosen in September 2015, then perhaps he looks for a safe seat after the London 2016 election?
For him to do anything sooner is not going to go down well with the London voters, of whom there are a mere few million!
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Not technically on topic but if jabird wishes to put their money where their mouth is, I will be willing to stand any bet that Clegg will retain his seat in 2015.
Boris Island is as dead as a dodo. In the gap regarding London the invisible hand of the market is already looking elsewhere....
Boris Island is as dead as a dodo. In the gap regarding London the invisible hand of the market is already looking elsewhere....
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I agree with paxboy I suspect nothing will happen at BI or indeed LHR for that matter.
LHR should have had 2 runways 10 years ago.
The US market is dead most LHR flights are half empty anyway.
If you head East the horse has bolted via dubai.
LHR should have had 2 runways 10 years ago.
The US market is dead most LHR flights are half empty anyway.
If you head East the horse has bolted via dubai.
Just caught the end of an interesting interview/talk at the RIBA with Norman Foster, including references to the Beijing T3 project and, of course, the Thames Hub:
BBC iPlayer - Dream Builders: Norman Foster - The Gherkin
BBC iPlayer - Dream Builders: Norman Foster - The Gherkin
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The US market is dead most LHR flights are half empty anyway.
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Bagso,
"LHR should have had 2 runways 10 years ago".
Well . it's always had at least 2 runways as long as I have been interested in aviation, (and that goes back to 1967).
In fact, at the present time, EGLL has 4 runways, R/W09L, R/W09R, R/W27L and R/W27R.
At one time in the past, I believe it even had 12 runways, a bit like EHAM does today.
The Dutch are obviously well ahead here. Who needs runways, (where planes land and take-off from), when you can build HUGE terminals, where you can corral the 'punters', prior to departure, and get them to part with shedloads of money, that they don't actually have, on items they don't actually realise that they don't actually need?
"LHR should have had 2 runways 10 years ago".
Well . it's always had at least 2 runways as long as I have been interested in aviation, (and that goes back to 1967).
In fact, at the present time, EGLL has 4 runways, R/W09L, R/W09R, R/W27L and R/W27R.
At one time in the past, I believe it even had 12 runways, a bit like EHAM does today.
The Dutch are obviously well ahead here. Who needs runways, (where planes land and take-off from), when you can build HUGE terminals, where you can corral the 'punters', prior to departure, and get them to part with shedloads of money, that they don't actually have, on items they don't actually realise that they don't actually need?
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"Heathrow is better located than a new hub airport at Stansted or the Thames Estuary"
Latest broadside from the BAA (all 56 pages of it) in the war of words over the UK's hub airport:
http://mediacentre.heathrowairport.c...1507&SizeId=-1
http://mediacentre.heathrowairport.c...1507&SizeId=-1