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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 11:02
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I believe STN will come in due course, but not for a couple of years.


Anyone know when flights go on sale?
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 11:03
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Originally Posted by EI-BUD
JM926,

Jet2 is very differentiated in the market. The jet2holidays brand is huge for package holidays in the Northern Ireland market. They have less to worry about than say EasyJet, who at the face of it will be competing for the same thing. Yes EasyJet have holiday options, but this is far less developed than the Jet2 offer.

Jet2 also has the diversified model with revenue from freight, and typically low cost aircraft that are old and low or no repayments. They can compete effectively. They have demonstrated resilience in the Leeds market where Ryanair set up a base in competition...

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Indeed-I work for J2 so have seen that across the company just less than half of passengers are on a package holiday.

I had just assumed that Ryanair would be a little more innovative when they arrived!! Certainly good to see some new routes there like Berlin.
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 11:08
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Originally Posted by GAZMO
I believe STN will come in due course, but not for a couple of years.


Anyone know when flights go on sale?
They are already on sale on the app anyway
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 11:12
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On sale now on website...
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 11:24
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Them routes announced today only need one aircraft looking at dates and times.

Must be more coming soon then for the 3rd aircraft...
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 11:27
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Appears ACE and TFS being done by aircraft based in Canary Island


ACE flight departs ACE at 7.25 am and TFS departs TFS at 7.00!!
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 11:37
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Ryanair

Looking at FR website I think more to come?


Monday AM Nothing PM ALC
Tuesday AM SXF PM KRK & AGP
Wednesday AM Milan PM ALC
Thurs AM SXF PM KRK & AGP
Fri AM Nothing PM ALC
Sat AM Milan PM AGP
Sun AM SXF PM KRK & AGP


Start dates


SXF starts 1st Sept Milan 3rd Sept KRK 30th Oct

TFS and ACE are not BFS aircraft
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 11:41
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Originally Posted by GAZMO
Looking at FR website I think more to come?


Monday AM Nothing PM ALC
Tuesday AM SXF PM KRK & AGP
Wednesday AM Milan PM ALC
Thurs AM SXF PM KRK & AGP
Fri AM Nothing PM ALC
Sat AM Milan PM AGP
Sun AM SXF PM KRK & AGP


Start dates


SXF starts 1st Sept Milan 3rd Sept KRK 30th Oct

TFS and ACE are not BFS aircraft
Krakow isn't BFS based too. So there is more coming.
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 12:37
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Jet2

From NI Travel News


Extra Capacity to Ibiza from Belfast
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 13:09
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Originally Posted by BFS BHD
Krakow isn't BFS based too. So there is more coming.
Definitely more to follow whether it be increasing capacity on already launched routes following a period of watching the competition/forward bookings or there will be another announcement soon regarding domestics - these need a lot less lead in time and definitely might wait for everyone else's winter timetables before final plans are made. They certainly seem to want to hit all their rivals bottom line - BFS may regret this long term.
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 13:42
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There is only a Monday/Friday gap for 6 hours, would not be unusual for the aircraft to do nothing in winter.

As for lack of UK routes, the whole idea of domestic routes was started here and was never going to happen.
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 14:04
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As for lack of UK routes, the whole idea of domestic routes was started here and was never going to happen.


Is there not another aircraft!!


The word never is used quite a lot from Dubliners about the Belfast airports. A middle east carrier will be here soon. Canada will also be served from Belfast soon. Oh and more FR domestics!!
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 14:41
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Jamie2K never has a positive thing to say about Belfast, he always has to pick out the negatives. (he is doing the same thing on Airliners.net)

It wouldn't have killed him to say congratulations would it?
I'm right though, nobody can put a counter argument to it.

It case for scrapping APD is non existent as it will only boost airline profits by taking residents in NI on holiday. If they were serious they would deliver a better portfolio of routes to justify it been scrapped.
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 14:44
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It wouldn't have killed him to say congratulations would it?


FR at BFS not sure if it is great news, time will tell.
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 15:00
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Reality is nobody in DUB wants to see APD scrapped because its the driver of pax from NI, price is the big factor and operating costs for the airline. Awaiting the air route development fund with interest.

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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 15:03
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Reality is nobody in DUB wants to see APD dcrapped because its the driver of pax from NI, price is the big factor and operating costs for the airline. Awaiting the air route development fund with interest.
Reality is DUB will not be impacted as they will get other passengers if there is a reduction.

You will notice FR have produced a schedule to ensure DUB is not impacted by the routes as well.

Yet again you fail to make a case to scrap APD in NI.
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 15:08
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Well done Aldergrove! New routes and some really new ones too. Hopefully when the Minister announces the detail of the RDF, supposedly by the end of this month, we will see a second round of announcements.
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 16:43
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Im finding it hard to contain my excitement about all these "new routes"

All but Berlin and Milan are already served. Another carrier serves what purpose? Unless something else is being held back there is actually very little investment. Infact its a perfect position to stick it to EZY and Jet2, maybe kill off one and majorly naff off the other. All with very little risk and with an ability to run for the hills when they dont get Government handouts as per their usual M.O.

I hope I'm wrong.
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 20:27
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Cheaper holidays for the locals, encourages more inbound tourism, cheaper for business and wider connections.

Anytime Ryanair pitch up anywhere its usually good news for the area in question and I feel the same here. Good for BFS.
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Old 3rd Mar 2016, 20:46
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From all accounts MOL talked about 4 aircraft before winter at the press conference Rumour is that 2 more domestic high frequency routes which I would think will be STN and EMA plus at least 2 more Eastern European routes. Anyway great news and 20% growth in Feb happy days
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