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Old 4th Mar 2016, 22:19
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Have to agree in that I find it strange that FR are hitting the sun destinations in the winter time? AGP, ALC at best three weekly. Even EZY reduce AGP to twice weekly in dead of winter.
However nice to see the NEW routes Berlin and Milan, that's what is needed
There is still free slot on Monday and Friday AM, which would be great for a weekend destination.......BUD??
Also surprised no BRU, a route that was a virtual certainly in my opinion
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Old 4th Mar 2016, 22:23
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HuskyOne, I quite agree that Ezy are entitled to reduce losses, maximise yield, in whatever way they think fit. But the airport and pax have needs as well. The pax may need a better spread of flight times. The airport wants higher numbers. I'm sure I don't need to tell you that. I think the times to London, especially on a saturday, are plain stupid. The problem with doing what Ezy has been doing, is that you can leave yourself open to attack and that is what is now happening. That is the way commerce/capitalism works. Eventually both Ezy and Fr will come under attack, maybe that will be Norwegian.

This time last year, 3 of us went over on a Saturday to a football match. We flew Ezy to Stn. On the way back, the only suitable flight back from London, Lhr was so expensive, that we flew back to Dub, bus to Belfast, taxi to Bfs and home by car. 3 pax lost to Bfs, how many more has there been over the years?
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Old 4th Mar 2016, 22:23
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Originally Posted by GAZMO
Have to agree in that I find it strange that FR are hitting the sun destinations in the winter time? AGP, ALC at best three weekly. Even EZY reduce AGP to twice weekly in dead of winter.
However nice to see the NEW routes Berlin and Milan, that's what is needed
There is still free slot on Monday and Friday AM, which would be great for a weekend destination.......BUD??
Also surprised no BRU, a route that was a virtual certainly in my opinion
With you on Budapest! Wizz might yet you never know
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Old 4th Mar 2016, 22:28
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The FR base is supposed to be 3 aircraft. Reading the comments by MOL in the Belfast Telegraph, he says they hope to be back later this year with a fourth aircraft.

Does the routes announced so far need 3 aircraft? It seems to me it is only 2, so is another aircraft not yet announced with more routes to come? Or are they counting the non-based flights as the third aircraft?
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Old 4th Mar 2016, 22:30
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Going by rumours there are going to be some domestic routes, EMA, LBA NCL etc. Maybe the third based aircraft will be covering these routes!
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Old 5th Mar 2016, 00:08
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Originally Posted by True Blue
The FR base is supposed to be 3 aircraft. Reading the comments by MOL in the Belfast Telegraph, he says they hope to be back later this year with a fourth aircraft.

Does the routes announced so far need 3 aircraft? It seems to me it is only 2, so is another aircraft not yet announced with more routes to come? Or are they counting the non-based flights as the third aircraft?
Yes only 2 aircraft needed so far. Michael O'Leary said he will be back in a couple of months to announce more routes likely for the 3rd aircraft and possibly a 4th as you say.
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Old 5th Mar 2016, 08:12
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Ryanair

Great news for BFS AND I am sure that Ryanair have done their home work.As for the sun routes there was never enough capacity during the winter. AGP, ALC ,FAO always full .Good luck to them and well done BFS
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Old 5th Mar 2016, 08:22
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Originally Posted by Straightahead
Great news for BFS AND I am sure that Ryanair have done their home work.As for the sun routes there was never enough capacity during the winter. AGP, ALC ,FAO always full .Good luck to them and well done BFS
I agree on the winter sun, needs more choice too, Malta, Cyprus, Turkey all warmish in winter, just takes a brave operator to pioneer.
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Old 5th Mar 2016, 15:06
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Great news for BFS...

Could be nothing but BFS has started following Air Berlin and Lufthansa on Twitter also Frankfurt Airport and Berlin Airport (Maybe followed Berlin because of RYR).

They started following Ryanair before they announced BFS. So could be one to keep an eye on...
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Old 5th Mar 2016, 16:49
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Could the upgraded lounge be due to a flag carrier arriving?
Could link the rumour for the possible airbridge at it
Maybe a daily Frankfurt or Munich with LH?

I recon the reason for the recent money spent on the lounge is maybe a request by UA or VS for its business tickets

Does anyone know if there is plans to renovate the international pier?
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Old 5th Mar 2016, 17:49
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I still think it is BA coming up from City. With Aer Lingus on the way out it would be a no brainer. Interesting that the Ops Director was at the FR launch, no sign of the BFS commercial people!

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Old 5th Mar 2016, 18:41
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Originally Posted by BFS watcher
I still think it is BA coming up from City. With Aer Lingus on the way out it would be a no brainer. Interesting that the Ops Director was at the FR launch, no sign of the BFS commercial people!
Well unless there's some serious financial gain for IAG I can't see it somehow. Loosing the city location, the distance between it and the loco rivals, the fact BA invested in the lounge at BHD not long ago and EI haven't announced they are leaving, a small number of potential redundancies which is due to loss of LGW. BFS needed a lounge, they are kind of behind the times without. Plenty of business users at BFS on locos and lots of leisure pax now use them, my daughter used her American express membership at STN for a flight to BFS recently to avoid the crowds, quite common occurrence I know various people who use them.
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Old 5th Mar 2016, 18:53
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Omers now own BFS, see the money being spent in the terminal etc etc. I reckon BA are the target. These guys ain't messing about anymore which is good to see. The big question can BHD survive against a rejuvenated and aggressive BFS? BER must have cost big bucks as a German route was a big NI target and BFS seem to be putting 2 fingers up at the NI executive as they continue to make a big play about no government money. Only question is what is next?
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Old 5th Mar 2016, 19:00
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Can BHD survive watching easyJet and Ryanair slap each other at BFS? Yes, yes they can.
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Old 5th Mar 2016, 19:49
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Interesting response......flybe being crucified on MAN, BHX, LPL and NCL by Easyjet, once FR goes on EMA and LBA more pressure. So BHD now in a pretty bad place.....what next a govt bailout or the latest UK state owned airport after Cardiff and Prestwick?
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Old 5th Mar 2016, 20:50
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BFS are bound to be offering BA the world to come up the road. At the very least to put pressure on the City to match it. If the rumours about their latest finance deal are anywhere near accurate, that is something they will not be able to do very easily.

I think BFS wins either way and are definitely in the ascendency after years of having to let flights go to the city for undercut rates.

The difference has been OMERS letting the local team play the game rather than just creaming the profits.
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Old 5th Mar 2016, 20:57
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Originally Posted by BFS watcher
Interesting response......flybe being crucified on MAN, BHX, LPL and NCL by Easyjet, once FR goes on EMA and LBA more pressure. So BHD now in a pretty bad place.....what next a govt bailout or the latest UK state owned airport after Cardiff and Prestwick?
And I just sailed down the Lagan in a bubble. Seriously? What predictions next? NI will win the euro's in France? A record summer 40c every day in Katesbridge? Wise up

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Old 6th Mar 2016, 08:59
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NI to win the euros .....yes!!
40c in Katesbridge.....never!!
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Old 6th Mar 2016, 09:50
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The odd thing is that when BA were at International they didn't take advantage of the longer operating hours.

If I remember correctly in the late 1990s the first flight out of Belfast was around 07:00 and the last arrived from Heathrow at 21:30: the same bracket that they currently use at City.
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Old 6th Mar 2016, 09:53
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Originally Posted by GAZMO
NI to win the euros .....yes!!
40c in Katesbridge.....never!!
seriously Gazmo, I'm booking for France!

Joking aside wish BFS every success, not an FR fan but I think for tourism it might be just the boost we need. I like EZY but I am of the opinion they've held BFS somewhat to ransom, some really good ideas like Iceland but generally lacking in inspiration. I hope this wakes them up to the potential.
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