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Old 24th Feb 2013, 14:31
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long time coming... hopefully to a better owner who wants to invest
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Old 24th Feb 2013, 14:42
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I wonder will it be a package deal LTN BFS and CWL, Abertis dont own LTN but a long lease as far as I understand from Luton Council.

Potential suitors I would imagine:

Belfast City Airport
DAA

I cannot see MAG being interested at this time being in deep in the Stansted airport takeover.

I'd like to see GIP takeover and replicate the type of energy and forward thinking like they have done at Gatwick.
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Old 24th Feb 2013, 15:34
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Could see them all being separately especially if the Welsh Assembly Government gets its way and buys CWL.
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Old 24th Feb 2013, 15:44
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Is it a one off charter?

Cruise flight
One-off charter to see the Northern lights.
Wouldnt fancy a cruise up there at this time of year
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Old 24th Feb 2013, 16:23
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Just read the UTV web site on the potential sale of BFS and they are stating 12 million pax use the airport each year!!!!!! I must be living in another country or maybe it includes Belfast airport in USA!!!!
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Old 24th Feb 2013, 17:46
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Notice Jet2 have their Geneva flight for sale for winter 13/14 so two ski destinations from BFS, Geneva and Salzburg.......wonder if anymore in pipeline
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Old 24th Feb 2013, 20:01
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BFS sale...

MAG is no doubt out of the question because of the Stansted takeover.

GIP have already got the much bigger Gatwick and Edinburgh airports and are still focusing very much on those. Would they really want to take Belfast on as well?

Would BAA (Heathrow Airport Holdings) be allowed to buy Belfast?

Perhaps the peel group who own Liverpool, Doncaster and Teesside? (Might be good for Wizz if they got LTN, since they already work with them at LPL and DSA).

I think the Peel Group would suit best out of the main ones in the UK but not sure how realistic that would be. Perhaps somebody else may pop up from somewhere, may be somebody who would take on both Belfast and Luton? It seems Cardiff is already on track to being bought by the Welsh government.
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Old 24th Feb 2013, 21:12
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One-off charter to see the Northern lights.
Wouldnt fancy a cruise up there at this time of year
Would be cool, glaciers and all that wintry stuff!

If I could afford it I would go!
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Old 24th Feb 2013, 21:18
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Could see them all being separately especially if the Welsh Assembly Government gets its way and buys CWL.
You mean the Welsh Assembly had a choice in the matter??

I'm pretty sure CWL was got rid of to make the other group airports more attractive?

I have only an outsider's standpoint so i'm sure all you well-in folk will correct me if I am wrong but surely Cardiff was doomed unless nationalised?
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Old 24th Feb 2013, 21:28
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MAG is no doubt out of the question because of the Stansted takeover.

GIP have already got the much bigger Gatwick and Edinburgh airports and are still focusing very much on those. Would they really want to take Belfast on as well?

Would BAA (Heathrow Airport Holdings) be allowed to buy Belfast?

Perhaps the peel group who own Liverpool, Doncaster and Teesside? (Might be good for Wizz if they got LTN, since they already work with them at LPL and DSA).

I think the Peel Group would suit best out of the main ones in the UK but not sure how realistic that would be. Perhaps somebody else may pop up from somewhere, may be somebody who would take on both Belfast and Luton? It seems Cardiff is already on track to being bought by the Welsh government.
As someone said earlier, Luton is just a long term lease so is it really a big part of the deal?.

IMHO, BAA wouldn't be interested because of the relatively small market and competition(/obliteration) from DUB.

Someone earlier mentioned BHD(and whatever Investment firm currently owns them presumably) as potential suitors but given the massive negative equity sitting down the road, I'm not sure where they would find the capital?

Does anyone know if it is Abertis' airports division that is for sale? Because then you have to factor in Skavsta/Sanford-Orlando (lease) plus a couple of other American ones and a couple of South american ones.

I actually think there is a potential for good investment at BFS if it can be managed correctly, so it will be interesting to see who the runners and riders are!
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Old 24th Feb 2013, 22:40
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Well if it does fall into the hands of new owners at least they will have a freshly resurfaced runway to play with.

They'll have to pump quite a few million into the terminal to bring it up to any sort of decent standard, it could do with a total rebuild but no chance of that happening in the next decade. ATC building and tower are looking quite tired and dated too.

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Old 25th Feb 2013, 13:22
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Well if it does fall into the hands of new owners at least they will have a freshly resurfaced runway to play with.

They'll have to pump quite a few million into the terminal to bring it up to any sort of decent standard, it could do with a total rebuild but no chance of that happening in the next decade. ATC building and tower are looking quite tired and dated too.
Checkin hall/Security search and Airside retail look ok (apart from the crumbly floor tiles) I think refurbishment of the international lounge is a must (agreed a new Terminal would be too expensive in the short term)

As for ATC and tower buildings, maybe we could settle for a new mimic panel to go with the new airfield lights??
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Old 25th Feb 2013, 14:46
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Does the majority of pax not stay in the shopping and retail area until flight is called? Pax are like vultures, hovering around the departure board waiting for the gate to be announced and then rush.....lets queue up at the gate

Recently flying from LHR to USA, terminal three........yes the vultures are there as well.....then the long walk to the gate......and nothing there, cannot even get a cup of coffee. At least BFS has a Cafe / Bar

Yes it would be nice to see more retail IN THE MAIN AREA, but you only go to International pier when your flight is called
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Old 25th Feb 2013, 15:01
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Yes it would be nice to see more retail IN THE MAIN AREA, but you only go to International pier when your flight is called
Yes but you don't want to have threadbare carpets and rubbish dirty seating, walls that could do with a paint job and the toilets need looked at (I'm sure passengers notice those?) the Bar is a bit of an afterthought and could be improved.
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Old 25th Feb 2013, 18:59
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Perhaps the peel group who own Liverpool, Doncaster and Teesside? (Might be good for Wizz if they got LTN, since they already work with them at LPL and DSA).
FYI Peel Group only control and fully own DSA and MME. LPL is 35% Peel and 65% Vantage (Vancouver Airport)
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Old 26th Feb 2013, 22:14
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With the launch of the new LS Salzburg flight, I see Inghams Ski have taken an allocation on this flight. This follows this years LS Geneva route, again with Inghams taking an allocation.

A look at the Inghams flight program would show that they seem to have gotten pretty friendly with Jet2 across the UK. They are also now using the LS Pisa flights from BFS also in their summer program. So I wonder are these destinations lead by Jet2 as the airline, or requested in liaison with the tour operator, with Jet2 being able to direct sell as a scheduled flight??
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Old 2nd Mar 2013, 10:56
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Olympic Holidays

Small Planet Airlines will be operating Belfast Intl to Larnaca instead of Aegean Airlines this summer on behalf of Olympic Holidays. The flights operate on a Saturday instead of Friday.

LLC664 1450 1835 LCA-BFS
LLC663 1935 0250 BFS-LCA

They have also dropped in BFS-HER flights which Aegean Airlines was due to operate.

Aegean Airlines will still operate BFS to RHO for the S13 Season.
 
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Any start date on these charters?
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Old 2nd Mar 2013, 13:12
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Belfast to Larnaca starts on the 29th of June will Small Planet Airlines.

Belfast to Rhodes restarts on the 26th of June with Aegean Airlines. A3 operated BFS-RHO last summer.

After having a look in the TCX booking engine it appears BFS will be 1 A321 based for the Winter 13/14 season.
 
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Anyone know when Jet.com will have Leeds Airport on sale from BFS for Winter 13/14??

Cheers!
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