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Went out to LGW last week on the lunchtime EZY flight...
With a reasonable load, we entered 25 at Bravo, immediate departure, and were wheels up about half way between the intersection and the 07 threshold. Looking at Google Earth, I reckon that was about 1250m give or take. Pretty impressive.
Has anyone any idea whether an A319 would need full TOGA for that sort of take-off?
With a reasonable load, we entered 25 at Bravo, immediate departure, and were wheels up about half way between the intersection and the 07 threshold. Looking at Google Earth, I reckon that was about 1250m give or take. Pretty impressive.
Has anyone any idea whether an A319 would need full TOGA for that sort of take-off?
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Saw that yesterday's TCX flight from Mahon & today's flight from Palma were both operated by a 757. Is it just a one off ? Or will we see it throughout the summer at BFS ? I know that the a321 is based but is the 757 ?
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found these old photos of BFS back in the day when easyjet where only a small airline at the airport, never realised there was 3 air bridges
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Photos: Boeing 737-33V Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
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Good pics, well I recall British Midland had its own gate as did BA (but by 2004 they both were gone). If BA gate was over approximately where gate 11 is, this must mean that this airbrige was moved around to the back of the International pier, ie that gate that is 26? Not sure if its 26/26, EI usually park at 319 at it at night, well 3 x 319 side by side, EI/EZY/EI..
Good pics, well I recall British Midland had its own gate as did BA (but by 2004 they both were gone). If BA gate was over approximately where gate 11 is, this must mean that this airbrige was moved around to the back of the International pier, ie that gate that is 26? Not sure if its 26/26, EI usually park at 319 at it at night, well 3 x 319 side by side, EI/EZY/EI..
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I really thought they would have brought back the airbridge at the domestic end for EI's LHR, from the look of those photos the far end which is now used for 4 of EZYs ac must not have had gates down there back in 2004 as there is now taxi markings
On a different note is someone in boots chemist old unit and is the new unit beside Starbucks now occupied?
On a different note is someone in boots chemist old unit and is the new unit beside Starbucks now occupied?
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Boots still empty and the unit opposite Starbucks also still boarded up, as is the unit beside WHSmith.
With stand 16 being moved slightly, they could put an airbridge in from near the business lounge for the LHR flights.. but it all comes down to money
With stand 16 being moved slightly, they could put an airbridge in from near the business lounge for the LHR flights.. but it all comes down to money
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It really is quite shocking how an international airport can look so bad, there is so many extensions here and there and they look soo cheap and tacky ( obv because they have been cheap) there is better looking airports in 3rd world countries
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Latest News > Dublin Airport Launches Advertising Campaign In Northern Ireland
What do people think of this and I dought BFS managment will be to pleased...
What do people think of this and I dought BFS managment will be to pleased...
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"About half a million residents of Northern Ireland currently use Dublin Airport each year, but DAA believes there is the potential to grow this number significantly over the medium term."
There are only 1.5 million of us..... do they want us all done there??
There are only 1.5 million of us..... do they want us all done there??
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It's common sense really.
The airports up here fight and squabble over another duplicated bucket and spade route from both BFS and BHD ( and to a much lesser extent CODA)whilst DUB with its low tax and choice of PROPER destinations gets quietly on with sucking the life out of them.
I am as guilty as the next bloke. I do not recall the last time I even CONSIDERED flying to the States from the north.
I have quite a few buddies currently working(
) in the middle east and none of them are even slightly tempted by the Northern Irish airport experience opting instead to bypass them totally and use DUB.
The airports up here fight and squabble over another duplicated bucket and spade route from both BFS and BHD ( and to a much lesser extent CODA)whilst DUB with its low tax and choice of PROPER destinations gets quietly on with sucking the life out of them.
I am as guilty as the next bloke. I do not recall the last time I even CONSIDERED flying to the States from the north.
I have quite a few buddies currently working(
) in the middle east and none of them are even slightly tempted by the Northern Irish airport experience opting instead to bypass them totally and use DUB.
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It really is quite shocking how an international airport can look so bad, there is so many extensions here and there and they look soo cheap and tacky ( obv because they have been cheap) there is better looking airports in 3rd world countries
Decade upon decade of minimum cost additions and alterations. Such a shame considering what a fine terminal it was when it opened. From the RIBA Archive:
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It really is quite shocking how an international airport can look so bad, there is so many extensions here and there and they look soo cheap and tacky ( obv because they have been cheap) there is better looking airports in 3rd world countries
As regards Dublin marketing the local customers here, they have a lot to play for especially in the area's in the middle, Louth, Down, Fermanagh and Armagh for eg. However, the Belfast airports need to be able to reassure the locals that the cost of driving and parking etc is not warranted, and yes customers like a nicer airport terminal etc, but in this climate the customer in the main wants, price, punctuality and an airport close to where they need to be. So I am not convinced customers in the Belfast area would see a value in going to Dublin unless it is for a destination not served from Belfast, which is going to be quite a few airports, so in reality there is a massive market the Dublin can target that cannot be served from Belfast.
Im not convinced that DUB will capture customers in the NI market who currently use Belfast, as in my experience on similar routes served from NI Dublin is not cheaper, so I would question are DAA spending money unncessarily on targeting customers who will fly from Dublin anyway as the destinations that they want are not available from Belfast?
Finally, I dont want to reignite the debate about the long term sustainability of 2 airports in Belfast, I have made my views clear on those, but again the point is in times like when DUB airport with in the region of close to 20M pax a year splashes out on a marketing campaign, Belfast's 2 airports with combined pax of a portion of that would find the cost the same to fund a similar marketing campaign, hence again 1 airport 1 strong marketing fund based on airlines paying the airport a fee that is sustainable for the future where also the funds are available to invest in the facilities.
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With 2 airports competing heavily for airlines attention here, I cant see how the airports are sustainable, and given this reality I cant see where the money is going to come from to reinvest in the future, its as simple as that. BFS has done quite a bit to improve the place over the last few years and yes there are some empty units, but with passenger number quite down over the peak years and customers spending less and looking for greater value on fewer shopping occassion this further compounds the problem.
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Originally Posted by tigger2k8
Aaron, to put it bluntly... Yes.
Bail em out n thats how they thank us in return.
Bail em out n thats how they thank us in return.
First off you didn't 'bail' us out. The UK government offered Ireland a bilateral loan, which it must pay back, and initially the UK government was also looking for interest as well.
Secondly, it's a bit rich for someone from the North to be talking about bailing the South out when yous are effectively bailed out on an annual basis by the British taxpayer who are forced to prop up the basket case of an economy that is Northern Ireland because you're incapable of balancing your books, despite being more subsidised than Africa.
So spare us the "after we bailed them out" crap, you didn't bail anyone out.
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Don't let BFS fool you, they make a lot of money, even the years after the downturn. I think the portion of the revenue that they put into reinvestment in the building is ever-dwindling so that the group revenues are not hurt by Cardiff and Luton's struggles.
Also what do you call a lot of money? As considering the cost of airport infrastructure plus the cost to main the place, it would need to be significant.
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Bail em out n thats how they thank us in return.
I dont think any one of us in Northern Ireland can afford to talk about London bailing out the Republic of Ireland, after all we are at the mercy of London governement for their continued support and investment of our economy and the level of public sector jobs. We probably wont have to pay that back, but the Republic will have to at some point. UK have a vested interest in the Republics well being financially, so in one sense it is an investment....
Not having a go at the original poster, as it is somebody who always contributes well to the debate on here....!
As I also said earlier, I am not convinced there will be much value for Dublin Airport in such a marketing campaign. Afterall, they will naturally get some of NI business as NI simply dont have the destinations on offer. I.e. whether they market NI or not they will still get the business?
NI pay the Irish Tourist board in the region of £4m per annum to market NI as a destination in conjunction with idea of the whole Island of Ireland, DAA being government owned maybe Arlene Foster could exert some influence??
Maybe not?
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