BELFAST AIRPORT INTERNATIONAL

[cessnarocket]

It departed to dubai cant say what cargo was but look at my user name

[GibbyNI]

haha Cheers Cessna

[Zag23]

So it was transporting cessnas?

[GAZMO]

Rip Off
At this time of the year many of us are looking to book summer holidays. naturally at the best price, but how many of us look at the price of airport carparking and include in the overall cost?

just booked the car into BHD long stay park for this weekend........£36!!!

Checked the prices at BFS for this weekend, BFS Long Stay £18, McCausland £18 Cosmo £17

maybe the extra is a subsidy for the airlines!!!!!!!!!!

[BFS BHD]

Found this on the web;

Belfast Airport, Access Services With The Irish Touch | The News

[ILS25]

"further improved by the traditional Irish warmth"

They must have given all the security personnel happy pills that day.

[mart901]

GAZMO

Indeed BHD on site car park is expensive, I quite agree. However BOAL are doing Fri-Sun parking by IKEA for £15.

[EI-BUD]

I parked at Ikea car park at stupid o clock to fly to LHR, £8 for the day. The £6 one day price was not online for city airport car park. I also heard offer finished. However, outside the terminal billboards in the walkway were advertising is with 'use promo code of relax' , so one would wonder.

[BFS BHD]

Southend reduces to 11 weekly from 3rd May.

Then to 9 weekly from 20th May

Then to 7 weekly from 17th June

Then to 6 weekly from 1st October

Is the numbers bad on the route now

[mart901]

That is sad, it will cease to appeal to business users. However I think routes like SEN-BFS get used as alternatives to main airports a lot, look now at LGW-BHD/BFS and the pricing and frequency and its not surprising something has to give. EZY will no doubt have a more profitable alternative to fighting a fares war into Belfast.

[FRatSTN]

Looks like BFS is really going down the pan. It looks dangerously quiet at times this year. Take a look at the timetable as it currently stands for the quietist day at the airport (Saturday) with 39 departures through the peak summer time:

ARRIVALS
TCX8047 00:35 Tenerife-South
LS382 00:40 Tenerife-South
TOM1569 01:45 Tenerife-South
EZY6716 01:50 Palma de Mallorca
--------------------------------------------
EZY462 07:40 Glasgow-International
EZY482 07:50 Edinburgh
EZY601 07:50 Liverpool
EZY547 07:55 Newcastle
EZY131 08:10 Manchester
EZY715 08:30 London-Southend
EZY443 08:40 Bristol
UA094 09:00 New York-Newark
EZY255 09:10 London-Stansted
EZY603 09:30 Liverpool
EZY194 09:40 Birmingham
LS302 09:40 Alicante
TOM1617 12:50 Palma de Mallorca
EZY183 13:00 London-Luton
TCX8275 13:05 Palma de Mallorca
EZY6704 13:10 Alicante
EZY6772 13:10 Amsterdam
EZY6794 13:15 Faro
EZY835 13:25 London-Gatwick
LS362 13:25 Palma de Mallorca
EZY464 14:05 Glasgow-International
LS306 14:15 Faro
LS713 15:05 Blackpool
EZY6756 15:35 Malaga
EZY6712 16:20 Palma de Mallorca
EZY259 16:50 London-Stansted
EZY613 17:35 Liverpool
LS340 18:05 Jersey
EZY6738 19:45 Nice
EZY486 20:55 Edinburgh
LS320 21:40 Pisa
EZY6732 22:35 Malta
EZY841 22:40 London-Gatwick
EZY6758 23:15 Malaga
TCX8125 23:30 Gran Canaria
EZY6714 23:40 Palma de Mallorca
EZY6798 23:45 Faro
--------------------------------------------
TOM1679 00:05 Gran Canaria
EZY6692 02:50 Ibiza

DEPARTURES
TOM1616 05:40 Palma de Mallorca
TCX8274 06:00 Palma de Mallorca
EZY254 06:15 London-Stansted
EZY6703 06:35 Alicante
EZY6793 06:40 Faro
EZY193 07:00 Birmingham
LS361 07:00 Palma de Mallorca
LS305 07:10 Faro
EZY548 07:15 Newcastle
EZY600 07:25 Liverpool
EZY463 08:05 Glasgow-International
EZY481 08:15 Edinburgh
EZY602 08:15 Liverpool
EZY6755 08:25 Malaga
EZY132 08:40 Manchester
EZY716 08:55 London-Southend
EZY444 09:05 Bristol
EZY6771 09:40 Amsterdam
EZY6711 10:00 Palma de Mallorca
EZY834 10:10 London-Gatwick
LS301 10:40 Alicante
UA095 11:10 New York-Newark
EZY184 13:25 London-Luton
TCX8124 13:50 Gran Canaria
EZY258 13:55 London-Stansted
EZY836 13:55 London-Gatwick
EZY6737 14:00 Nice
TOM1678 14:15 Gran Canaria
EZY465 14:30 Glasgow-International
EZY6731 14:30 Malta
LS339 14:30 Jersey
LS319 15:15 Pisa
LS714 15:35 Blackpool
EZY6757 16:15 Malaga
EZY6797 17:10 Faro
EZY6713 17:20 Palma de Mallorca
EZY614 18:00 Liverpool
EZY6691 20:30 Ibiza
EZY487 21:20 Edinburgh

Passenger numbers look like they will be going down again for 2013 with a timetable like that. It goes more than 3 hours with not a single passenger aircraft arriving in the late morning/early afternoon period and goes more than 1 and a half hours with nothing either arriving or departing on a couple of occassions!!!

How hard is the EI move going to affect BFS's passenger stats for the whole of 2013 I wonder. Does anybody know how many passengers did they have annually before they pulled out?

Is there a chance of seeing passenger numbers falling below the 4 million mark this year??

Challenging times ahead it would seem

[BFS BHD]

FRatSTN thats interesting there you don't have the busiest day of the week times for the summer?

Thanks

[FRatSTN]

Mondays, much busier but still down on last year...


ARRIVALS
TCX8659 00:40 Antalya
TOM315 02:15 Bodrum
--------------------------------------------
EZY462 07:40 Glasgow-International
EZY482 07:50 Edinburgh
EZY601 07:50 Liverpool
EZY547 07:55 Newcastle
EZY443 08:10 Bristol
EZY715 08:30 London-Southend
UA094 09:00 New York-Newark
EZY181 09:05 London-Luton
EZY255 09:10 London-Stansted
EZY131 09:30 Manchester
LS323 09:30 Leeds/Bradford
EZY194 09:40 Birmingham
EZY833 09:45 London-Gatwick
BGH5573 10:20 Bourgas
EZY464 10:35 Glasgow-International
EZY603 10:50 Liverpool
EZY484 12:20 Edinburgh
EZY835 12:55 London-Gatwick
EZY6704 13:10 Alicante
EZY466 13:15 Glasgow-International
EZY6772 13:40 Amsterdam
EZY607 13:55 Liverpool
LS302 14:20 Alicante
EZY259 14:30 London-Stansted
EZY6756 15:20 Malaga
EZY6672 15:55 Barcelona
LS362 16:35 Palma de Mallorca
EZY553 16:45 Newcastle
EZY185 16:50 London-Luton
EZY609 17:30 Liverpool
TCX8507 17:30 Dalaman
EZY6724 17:40 Paris-Charles de Gaulle
EZY6776 17:55 Amsterdam
TOM589 18:25 Dalaman
EZY837 18:55 London-Gatwick
EZY611 19:00 Liverpool
EZY447 19:15 Bristol
EZY6796 19:55 Faro
EZY187 20:15 London-Luton
EZY137 20:30 Manchester
EZY470 20:40 Glasgow-International
EZY263 21:00 London-Stansted
EZY198 21:05 Birmingham
LS305 21:05 Barcelona-Reus
EZY839 21:20 London-Gatwick
EZY613 21:25 Liverpool
EZY449 22:25 Bristol
EZY488 22:30 Edinburgh
EZY841 22:40 London-Gatwick
--------------------------------------------
EZY6716 01:50 Palma de Mallorca
TOM1185 04:45 Bourgas
TCX8825 05:00 Bodrum

DEPARTURES
EZY254 06:15 London-Stansted
EZY832 06:25 London-Gatwick
EZY6703 06:35 Alicante
EZY182 07:00 London-Luton
EZY193 07:00 Birmingham
LS324 07:00 Leeds/Bradford
TCX8506 07:00 Dalaman
EZY130 07:05 Manchester
LS301 07:30 Alicante
TOM588 08:00 Dalaman
EZY463 08:05 Glasgow-International
EZY481 08:15 Edinburgh
EZY602 08:15 Liverpool
EZY548 08:20 Newcastle
EZY444 08:35 Bristol
EZY716 08:55 London-Southend
EZY6755 09:35 Malaga
EZY834 09:40 London-Gatwick
EZY6671 10:00 Barcelona
EZY6771 10:10 Amsterdam
LS361 10:10 Palma de Mallorca
EZY483 10:15 Edinburgh
EZY465 11:00 Glasgow-International
UA095 11:10 New York-Newark
EZY604 11:15 Liverpool
BGH5572 11:20 Bourgas
EZY6795 13:15 Faro
EZY467 13:40 Glasgow-International
EZY6723 13:40 Paris-Charles de Gaulle
EZY836 13:55 London-Gatwick
EZY608 14:20 Liverpool
EZY6775 14:25 Amsterdam
EZY258 15:00 London-Stansted
LS304 15:05 Barcelona-Reus
EZY446 16:35 Bristol
EZY610 16:55 Liverpool
EZY554 17:10 Newcastle
EZY186 17:15 London-Luton
EZY612 17:55 Liverpool
EZY838 18:05 London-Gatwick
EZY197 18:25 Birmingham
TCX8824 18:55 Bodrum
EZY842 19:20 London-Gatwick
EZY6715 19:30 Palma de Mallorca
TOM1184 19:35 Bourgas
EZY448 19:45 Bristol
EZY485 20:25 Edinburgh
EZY188 20:40 London-Luton
EZY138 20:55 Manchester
EZY471 21:05 Glasgow-International
EZY262 21:25 London-Stansted
EZY616 21:50 Liverpool

[BFS BHD]

Thanks for that FRatSTN

[SecondDog]

Looks like BFS is really going down the pan. It looks dangerously quiet at times this year. Take a look at the timetable as it currently stands for the quietist day at the airport (Saturday) with 39 departures through the peak summer time:

I took out the timetable because it is too long to quote

Passenger numbers look like they will be going down again for 2013 with a timetable like that. It goes more than 3 hours with not a single passenger aircraft arriving in the late morning/early afternoon period and goes more than 1 and a half hours with nothing either arriving or departing on a couple of occassions!!!

How hard is the EI move going to affect BFS's passenger stats for the whole of 2013 I wonder. Does anybody know how many passengers did they have annually before they pulled out?

Is there a chance of seeing passenger numbers falling below the 4 million mark this year??

Challenging times ahead it would seem

Lets be honest, it is a saturday you are talking about here, which mostly rules out business travel so the day is resigned to holidaymakers going to/fro the summer spots. Therefore the number of flights will always be down because there are fewer UK mainland runs on saturday (To me this is just common sense on the part of airlines to redeploy aircraft elsewhere) So, the problem is that there aren't enough foreign routes to satisfy you I presume? Surely that is down to unwilling airlines just as much as inactive airport management! (lets face it BHD might appear to be generating new business but they aren't really, it is more of a redeployment for NI aviation if you look at the bigger picture - so it is the airlines who are strangling NI growth at present, not crappy Airport management(albeit they aren't doing much to help it would appear) )

On the whole I think EI had something like 400000 pax or maybe half a mil for the year but I imagine a certain amount of that will be reouped by the big orange and Jet2 putting on some extra routes. I doubt the loss will be astonishing come end of play 2013. Dipping under 4mil? don't think so.

[FRatSTN]

Well Saturday's as it currently stands is 39 departures, down from 44 the same time last year wheras Monday is down from 57 to 52. There's about 5 less departures every day.

I know it's the passenger numbers that count but all of the aircraft in BFS except the NY service are A320 and 737 size, so you can assume the loss of about 700 - 800 seats a day on departures alone.

I make it a loss of a good 250,000 seats in total for the summer schedule (April-October):

700 lost seats X 180 days (roughly 6 mths) = 126,000 lost seats (departing only)

126,000 X 2 = 252,000 lost seats in total for the summer only!

I don't know how much Jan, Feb, Mar, Nov and Dec was/will be down this year. Assuming the declines are even worse for these months, it could be in danger of falling to about the 4 million mark but I do agree, it's unlikely to fall that far, but certainly the low end of 4 million.

[tigger2k8]

While I'm quite sure numbers will be down or the same for the next year... The schedule is in no way finalised, I find it hard to believe that SEN is reducing that much, an a/c from BFS or SEN must not be in the system yet..

[GAZMO]

SEN going to one daily is surprising.....especially the timing of last flight of the day? Is there a possibility of EZY putting in early departure with BFS plane

Annual figures for 2013
The 400,000 EI is a figure I have heard as number of pax EI had at BFS. The new BHX flight will probably recoup 140,000 of those pax and additional MAN flights probably 60,000 pax. These plus LS starting double weekly to Tenerife and Lanzarote from Sept and maintaining ALC as all year service figures just may be very similar

Figures will not grow that much when there are three commerical airport trying to serve a small population of 1.8 million

[EI-A330-300]

FRatSTN you are for getting other various charters from BFS, isn't there a few to Greece and Cyprus etc.

[AIRPORT66]

airport66

A lot of the charter work from BFS is done by the larger A321 and B737-800 series not just the A320 and B737-300.