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Old 2nd Aug 2012, 16:16
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Is there any chance that since BHD have stole EI from bfs, bfs will try to poach BA, when BA took over the old contract from BMI which I believe is quite expensive, surely BFS could offer a better deal
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Would love to see BA at BFS
With 24/7 operations they could have a later flight to BFS arriving 10.30pm. Make the most of the business day and would help with return connections, the number of times I have had to book a heathrow hotel as arriving at LHR after 6.30 and you have little chance of making the last flight. If they could have a 9.15 departure it would be great
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Old 2nd Aug 2012, 18:20
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BFS management are up to something, and BHD will probably suffer for it. Have heard various rumours, some of them laughable.

I wouldn't rule anything out though.
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What have you heard ILS?
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BMI which I believe is quite expensive, surely BFS could offer a better
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I think this is absolutely not the case, BA had absolutely no obligation to extend the contract with BHD. Besides in the current environment of the 2 airports competing for operators, the city airport would be most wise to do a deal with BA up front. Afterall, BA is run commercially and as such will lever its position. Furthermore, when bmi consolidated its position at BHD and brought bmibaby in, the word was officially that they consolidated their position, and the rumours were hot on here that bmi was talking to BFS management. So in which context bmi would absolutely not have paid above the odds.

So to suggest that BA is paying excessively at BHD, I think is nonsense.
I think BA will focus on the integration of bmi now, remove dupication where possible ex LHR eg. Basel and when this is complete and a steady state established they will look at other issues such as items like negotiations with particular airports like Belfast. So that may well come, but not for one minute do I believe that BA wont be ahead of the curve in terms of the fees that it is paying. BA can bring a lot to the party that most other airlines cannot, especially its reputation and connectivity via LHR to the world.

On a separate note, in terms of the long run, Aer Lingus can give BHD what BA cannot, connectivity to Europe, EI will stick with it for the long run and if any airline can bring BHDs euro routes to a par with BFS (apart from EZY if they would move) it is EI. So a move be BA to BFS could copperfasten EI's long terms viability at BHD...

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Old 3rd Aug 2012, 21:58
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BFS

I see that there are a lot of diverts to BFS tonight, anyone know whats going on??
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Old 3rd Aug 2012, 22:08
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American Airlines emergency landing at Dublin is the issue....
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Busy night tonight, 4x EI diversions 1x TOM and 1x AFR/City Jet diversions, ramp is bound to be full, I think most if not all have left already
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Aldergrove stopped taking traffic for a while as they was full
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Old 4th Aug 2012, 16:36
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Busy night tonight, 4x EI diversions 1x TOM and 1x AFR/City Jet diversions, ramp is bound to be full, I think most if not all have left already
Just wondering how many of those 4 EI divs could BHD take, or would they still go up to the Int'l in such a case? Suppose if Menzies will handle them there then either is an option (nightime hours permitting)
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Surprised they were full at 6 diversions. Ive seen it with some stands doubled up when EI, FR and others diverted a few years ago. From memory one night there were aircraft on the road towards SRT (adjacent to #9) (cityjet?), 9 EIR, 10 EI, 11 EI, 15 FR, 16 EI, 17 FR, 19,20 (non exist), 21 TCX, 22N & 22S - cant recall except there were planes there - FR from memory, 24, 25N & 25S, 26, 27, 28, 29 plus the freight apron were all full.

12,13,14 and 18 had turning EZY aircraft.

When I left that night all the non base EI aircraft had left. The EIR was still there the next morning. At one stage things looked like aircraft were going to be towed down to Delta.
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Old 4th Aug 2012, 16:56
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Just wondering how many of those 4 EI divs could BHD take, or would they still go up to the Int'l in such a case? Suppose if Menzies will handle them there then either is an option (nightime hours permitting)
I don't think that Belfast Management would say no to the extra revenue from diversions from EI regardless of the move and if they did then it raises questions what sort of brain dead people are running the airport....

I have never seen a forum to be so annoyed about a EI move to another airport. It happens all the time and I don't see why people are up on arms about it. Build a Bridge and get over it or you could just get a life.

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Old 4th Aug 2012, 17:03
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EI-330, my employers use BFS-LHR a lot, most of us are all located in the west of the country. We dont get paid expenses for to and from the airports. So people have the right to be annoyed as its going to cost us more, not to mention the lack of choice of conveniant car parking at BHD. Easy to turn around and say get over it but when it comes down to money...
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Its coming accross to me that its peoples dislike of BHO as an airport rather than what BFS will be loosing with EI going and SecondDog post clearly shows this.

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Old 4th Aug 2012, 17:41
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dislike of BHO
For the love of God, BHO (VABP) is in India.
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Old 4th Aug 2012, 18:05
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Have to agree with trigger. Car parking is so expensive at BHD, at least at BFS you have a choice.
Still waiting on jet2 or EZY announcing new routes.
Has anybody heard anything?
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Old 4th Aug 2012, 20:31
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car parking at BHD expensive... not really

Not if you park at the train halt, walk over the bridge, go to the old gate and go through, pick up the phone, they send a minibus to pick you up (last time it was brand new Ford S Max). On the way back - go to information desk, tell them you want to catch the train......
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Old 4th Aug 2012, 21:36
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Is the parking area secured and monitored? Insured etc? If so I'll maybe have to take an adventure to find it as there are a couple of dates I can't avoid LHR in December

Thanks
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We are very friendly over here in Nam but there are a few nutters. But leaving a car for a few days might not be good idea. Had a head lamp and wing mirror parted out once
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Old 5th Aug 2012, 10:42
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Alternative parking.

Try booking with boalcityairportparking.co.uk Ikea carpark 5 mins away with free shuttle service. Far cheaper and its safe and secure. I'm not advertising just showing there is an alternative.
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