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Old 17th Aug 2012, 13:13
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Over the summer months the Belfast base has been recognised as number 1 in terms of OTP (on time performance) and for turnarounds. Carolyn has stated last week BFS has been consistent over the recent months coming in top of the league each week. Great achievement for the collective people involved!
But no expansion. BFS will remain 6 summer and 5 winter. That leaves no possibility for a response to EI's withdrawal. Bonus culture wins again - they're chasing short term money in favour of long term development. If anything the regions are more likely to downsize that expand.
These two things just don't correlate i'm sorry. BFS is consistently Easy's best base and those OTP stats are not indicative of the fact that the flights are handled by about half the ground staff that meet the flights on the mainland bases and they are paid several pounds per hour less than their colleagues on top of that, so BFS must easily be one of (if not THE) relative profit generating bases that the company has. Combine that with the fact that a rival's most popular winter routes (load factors steady) have just suddenly vanished from the schedule, plus the closing of the MAD base making available a suitable A320 and it is absolutely crazy that EZY are not redeploying the 6th based aircraft for the winter to BFS. Some people talk about it being too late for W12 but I reckon a couple of well placed advertisments (not to mention the trumpeting of the route announcment that you would get from the Airport) Look how quickly FR can move things around if need be and start routes within weeks, it can't be for loss or MOL wouldn't do it. Why don't EZY give it a punt. I for one reckon they would be pleasantly surprised.
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I thought easy was to add 2 new routes from Belfast this year and that was before EI decided to move, have these plans been scrapped?
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Old 18th Aug 2012, 00:07
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BFS doesn't earn easyJet anywhere near as much as many of its European counterparts therefore they get the aircraft and BFS doesn't. Sure the OTP is good but all the bosses are interested in is ££. Over time more and more pressure will be placed on bases like BFS as the company shift more aircraft around to extract yield. Easyjet's aim is a casualised workforce that they can send wherever by like and lay off at the drop of a hat..just like Ryanair. When they achieve that then regional bases could end up practically summer-only.
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BFS doesn't earn easyJet anywhere near as much as many of its European counterparts therefore they get the aircraft and BFS doesn't. Sure the OTP is good but all the bosses are interested in is ££. Over time more and more pressure will be placed on bases like BFS as the company shift more aircraft around to extract yield. Easyjet's aim is a casualised workforce that they can send wherever by like and lay off at the drop of a hat..just like Ryanair. When they achieve that then regional bases could end up practically summer-only.
Agreed it is all about the ££/$$ but surely there are political/economic/corner cutting reasons why those bases are currently more desirable, which are liable to change in the future. No current business plan is set in stone. Swings and roundabouts methinks and while we are an island nation, there will always be someone who will fly the routes.

Everyone's aim at the moment is a casualised workforce (excepting the mgmt types obviously, who live (and shed jobs) for their bonuses) I also predict that this will change again. Sure the legislation to protect temporary staff is already in place is it not? Eventually they will get bored of the hassle of high turnover/training etc
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Old 20th Aug 2012, 19:32
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Agree EI BUD with some of your views, however as EZY stated they want to increase early morning flights from BFS to London. Yes I can see a 6.30 from Gatwick working and returning at 8.25, slots permitting but if they wish to cover other London airports it would be necessary to base another aircraft at BFS, even if it flies on to another destination after London.
SEN numbers look very good, from 8K in April to 13K+ in July, maybe a 6.50 to SEN, two hours before the next SEN flight and onwards to Europe might work.
Regarding AGP and ALC, I agree lower demand in winter time but EI operated 4XAGP and 3XALC so an additional flight to these destinations each week should not impact too much on their load and yield factors.
Have to admit I don't know it was sabre ratting by EZY announcing extra London flights as it is getting rather late to announce.......anybody any updates
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Old 20th Aug 2012, 20:19
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Regarding AGP and ALC, I agree lower demand in winter time but EI operated
4XAGP and 3XALC so an additional flight to these destinations each week should
not impact too much on their load and yield factors.
Thanks for the comment Gazmo,

I still think the increases will be from next summer and BFS management and EZY at one in terms of making sure a good story surrounds BFS business, as for both of them BHD is an ever pressing threat.

Aer Lingus did x2 to ALC last winter per week. The loads were ok but I dont feel that these routes much in the way of a return over the winter. Flew down a few times and loads were in the 90s on 320 and some coming back even lower.

I dont feel that easyJet or AerLingus for that matter make much if anything on winter flights to Spain/Portugal. Maybe the Canaries ok, but with such frequencies to AGP, ALC etc not much for anyone.

The schedule for ALC was very clever last winter and much more attractive than EZY so much so EZY have a similar one this Winter, ie late evening flights and good timing to cover a weekend! EI must have had an impact.

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Old 20th Aug 2012, 23:08
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I see numbers where up again last month, looks like this year is going to be one of the busiest years in recent ones, let's just hope easyjet numbers help counteract the lost of EI from October onwards
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Old 21st Aug 2012, 06:43
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It will be interesting to see how many passengers stay with EI. Certainly on LHR there is no choice but to use BHD, but there will be a number of pax who will transfer to EZY (like me) who
Refer BFS
EZY have already announce BMX, 12 flights, MAN, 3 flights and EDN 3 flights and JET2 2 flights extra. With London still to be announced it may be status quo in terms of pax numbers
Any more rumours what BE are doing?
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Old 21st Aug 2012, 09:40
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Well If virgin Atlantic has now got in on the domestic market to heathrow, they might be a possibility?
Someone said in here last month that virgin management had been at the airport
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would be great to see VS at BFS, but from a recent chat with a member of EI cabin crew EI and VS are talking about codeshare for BHD. If this was the case cannot see them coming to Belfast
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Old 21st Aug 2012, 23:23
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I was just reading the Ezy press release on their site re the extra flights. It says they will take effect from the start of the winter timetable and mentions all four London airports. Since that statement was issued in June and we are only a little over two months to the start of the winter timetable, what has happened that they are not on sale? Have they changed their mind?

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Old 22nd Aug 2012, 19:35
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Maybe you should email them and ask when the new early morning flights are going to be on their website

Anybody heard what EZY are going to do with the aircraft being withdrawn from MAD?
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Old 22nd Aug 2012, 22:32
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Anybody heard what EZY are going to do with the aircraft being withdrawn from MAD?
Tried to find this out on the Easyjet thread but noone is entirely sure it would seem. There was talk of MAN getting some of them.
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Old 23rd Aug 2012, 19:36
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Private jets...

Some nice machines in BFS this evening...

N-689WM (Global 5000)

M-EMCT (Cessna Citation)

G-KPEI (Cessna Citation XLS)

Anything to do with Tennants Vital?
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Old 23rd Aug 2012, 19:43
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Private jets...
Some nice machines in BFS this evening...

N-689WM (Global 5000)

M-EMCT (Cessna Citation)

G-KPEI (Cessna Citation XLS)

Anything to do with Tennants Vital?
Don't know about these but The Stone Roses flew out with flybe today. Apparently they were right w******.

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Old 23rd Aug 2012, 20:58
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Apparently they were right w******.
Stop it....Flybe are ok...
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Old 23rd Aug 2012, 22:30
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Ian Brown does have previous though:

Check out #4
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Old 23rd Aug 2012, 22:30
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Any news of a new airline for next summer? BFS said they where trying to get a replacement for EI although they said the same about baby,
I just thought they would be trying to do everything to try and entice flybe up.
Maybe the rumour that virgin management was at BFS a few month ago isn't a complete rumour perhaps they where up looking at the possible LHR route??
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Old 23rd Aug 2012, 22:54
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Can anyone advise which a/c TOM will use for SSH next year? I assume A321 which is not gonna be comfy for a near 6 hour flight.
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TOM - SSH

Will be a B737-800 like the previous year.
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