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I think EI have tried hard to distinguish themselves as a mid market airline, better than low cost but cheaper than flag carrier, the sort of thinking mans alternative, very much like BE are trying to be. Therefore I think being at BHD suits that model rather than fares wars with LS and EZY. Hopefully this approach will see some new European routes launched.
I think EI have tried hard to distinguish themselves as a mid market airline, better than low cost but cheaper than flag carrier, the sort of thinking mans alternative, very much like BE are trying to be. Therefore I think being at BHD suits that model rather than fares wars with LS and EZY. Hopefully this approach will see some new European routes launched.
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EI is bigger carrier with stronger performance in terms of profitability
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Aer Lingus made €84million pre tax profit in 2011, I'm not sure about flybe but last time I saw them on the news they were announcing a profit warning, somewhere in the £10million loss region. In terms of recognition Aer Lingus have been around since 1936 and their brand is transatlantic as well as european, the flybe brand was launched in 2002, although jersey european started in 1979 and it has grown massively in a short space of time including stock market floatation.
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Skipness One Echo, I would hasten to add aircraft numbers have nothing to do with it. Aer Lingus possibly have more seats at any one time compared to BE as 320s 330s 321s & 319s in that order have a lot more seats when compared to the collective fleet of Q400s and EMB. In addition, EI is robust in terms of cost when compared to many airlines, they have survived what can only be described as most intensive competition from Ryanair or any airlines. So that's not a bad achievement by any standard in my book.
Mart901 is correct, EI profitable with good annual results in last couple of year against a backdrop of intense financial diffs in the Republic. BE has had significant challenges in the last year what with slump in domestic bookings in GB and the focus and investment in bring the nordic operation into the airline. The new pricing model etc is a step in their plan to improve the complete operation by the sounds of it.
Mart901 is correct, EI profitable with good annual results in last couple of year against a backdrop of intense financial diffs in the Republic. BE has had significant challenges in the last year what with slump in domestic bookings in GB and the focus and investment in bring the nordic operation into the airline. The new pricing model etc is a step in their plan to improve the complete operation by the sounds of it.
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In terms of UK airlines: there are not that many eligible ones left for serving BHD, eastern though small is too pricey to make a go of the local market and cant see what gaps are left that would suit them.
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I meant airlines joining BFS... MON. BE. FR. and VS
is that a hint :L. I heard BFS where in talks with VS.
I actually upon reflection think EI will be ok in BHD. BE while they will defend their patch, EI is bigger carrier with stronger performance in terms of profitability and BE wont want to waste resources competing for loss making services. I.e. when LGW becomes saturated with low priced seats BE will reduce the schedule slightly and focus on business traveller and onward connections added to its well established name on the route. I.e. people who want to fly BHD LGW know BE is the carrier on the route. EI have to work on that side of it.
EI will be a compelling proposition in terms of price and at this stage in their development they will be extremely reluctant to effectively close another base (granted closing BFS but staying in Belfast market).
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EI will be a compelling proposition in terms of price and at this stage in their development they will be extremely reluctant to effectively close another base (granted closing BFS but staying in Belfast market).
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I just dont understand why they would change from 9 secure, profit making routes at BFS to 4 nervy routes, 2 of which already served at BHD. Makes no sense to me whatsoever... I really hope this isn't the end of EI in N.I as i really like them as an airline. Wish they had just stayed at BFS
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The only ones who know are those in the commercial department in BFS. What we do know is that John Doran mentioned that they were in talks with airlines (new and existing) and would like to announce something in the coming months as quoted below.
Honestly I would put money on an EZY expansion of the base. They know fine rightly that they now have the airport by the balls even more so than before, no doubt they will take advantage of this, perhaps those painted passenger walk ways should be re-done in orange
“We are already working to fill the void left by this defection and are confident that in coming months we will have positive news on new GB and international services”.
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now that EI have confirmed that they are leaving has easyjet added extra flights to all london airports and a few other airports like they said they would?
was going to book flight myself to london and there only seems to be 1 flight in the morning to london airports, have they decided not to increase?
was going to book flight myself to london and there only seems to be 1 flight in the morning to london airports, have they decided not to increase?
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EZY are probably trying to weigh up the best options
If they locate a A319 in BFS it can do an early morning flight to one of the London airports. I think they may look at SEN at 6.55ish but planning for the full day is slightly more difficult. SEN is a great airport and although the destination is just started the numbers are increasing rapidly. Last month I took my first flight to SEN, plane landed at 9.45 at gate and I was on the 9.55 train to London
Maybe they will put a 6.35 from Gatwick to BFS and returns at 8.20? I think they will have to up Gatwick in face of the competition
We will have to wait and see but hopefully they will look at key European destinations for mid mornings
If they locate a A319 in BFS it can do an early morning flight to one of the London airports. I think they may look at SEN at 6.55ish but planning for the full day is slightly more difficult. SEN is a great airport and although the destination is just started the numbers are increasing rapidly. Last month I took my first flight to SEN, plane landed at 9.45 at gate and I was on the 9.55 train to London
Maybe they will put a 6.35 from Gatwick to BFS and returns at 8.20? I think they will have to up Gatwick in face of the competition
We will have to wait and see but hopefully they will look at key European destinations for mid mornings
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My bet is they will try to bracket a departure either side of Ei times, if they want to attack them. This is a well tried tactic in attacking another operator. Ezy will then have a greater choice of times for pax to choose from, making life very difficult for Ei. But maybe Ei deserve it for their stupidy.
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I wonder what is going on behind management doors at bfs? I wonder if they are talking to other airlines or just hoping there best friend ezy will mop up
Would love to see Mon make an appearance at least then we have a chance of long haul routes and the good old sanford route
Would love to see Mon make an appearance at least then we have a chance of long haul routes and the good old sanford route
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Have to agree with true blue, can't see how they are going to fill the Gatwick route, Flybe have a loyal following and EZY are attracting more business passengers.
On the LHR BA is going to win hands down
Personally to London it will be EZY for me and if I have to connect at LHR it will be BA
Just waiting for LS or MON to put a few flights to FAR and AGP and EI will be heading down the road again
On the LHR BA is going to win hands down
Personally to London it will be EZY for me and if I have to connect at LHR it will be BA
Just waiting for LS or MON to put a few flights to FAR and AGP and EI will be heading down the road again
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Travelled through the airport this morning and was nice to see it busy
I see the old boots unit,the unit beside Starbucks and the one beside wh smyths is still empty, which I am quite surprised about, an airport which has over 4million pax travelling through it should warrant a good choice of shops
Also nice to see the horrible red and white barriers are gone where ezy stands are and replaced with railings but think it would have been a a better idea to put a roof along it to make it a bit of a shelter
Also was talking to a friend who heard malta is to be dropped and replaced with Tenerife, I though Malta had good loads
I see the old boots unit,the unit beside Starbucks and the one beside wh smyths is still empty, which I am quite surprised about, an airport which has over 4million pax travelling through it should warrant a good choice of shops
Also nice to see the horrible red and white barriers are gone where ezy stands are and replaced with railings but think it would have been a a better idea to put a roof along it to make it a bit of a shelter
Also was talking to a friend who heard malta is to be dropped and replaced with Tenerife, I though Malta had good loads
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The unit beside starbucks is a new unit that was built with the reconfiguration of this area, would have been part of the duty free and old starbucks at one time, you are right though, it was supposed to be a clothing shop of some sort ( cant remember who was supposed to take this unit). The old boots is now a oasis gaming machine unit beside the lagan bar.
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Load factors for Malta are quite good, around 2500 pax per month, which for a two weekly flight is not bad
Wish BFS would fill the empty Boots store area, even if they have to lease at min price, something is better than nothing
Would love to see a seafood and caviar bar at BFS......little chance
Wish BFS would fill the empty Boots store area, even if they have to lease at min price, something is better than nothing
Would love to see a seafood and caviar bar at BFS......little chance