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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 14:21
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They already put a 380 through Milan to JFK IIRC
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 14:28
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Originally Posted by Una Due Tfc
They already put a 380 through Milan to JFK IIRC
Yes but Emirates operated the DXB-MXP route for several years before adding the JFK sector - the demand was already there to fill a B733 with just passengers travelling to MXP.
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 14:30
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BHX now on sale.
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 15:10
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Jet2 BFS-EWR

Well I suppose we can call this good news. One round trip flight isn't quite the service we've been hoping for though...

Jet2.com adds New York route | Belfast International...
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 15:15
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7 days is the absolute minimum that I would personally do a NYC trip.. 4 days seems ludicrous for the time difference.
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 15:27
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Agreed; 3 full days and 2 half days is simply not enough time to spend in NYC. Flights are also expensive in comparison to other Jet2 flights to EWR. £592 pp return from BFS, but only £410 pp return from LBA, and below £500 for EMA, MAN, NCL.
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 15:27
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Great to see BHX available to book.
Still find it strange that EZY are doing extra flights to the bucket and spade routes in April and early May.....will they be continuing this into the summer period?
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 15:33
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Originally Posted by GAZMO
Great to see BHX available to book.
Still find it strange that EZY are doing extra flights to the bucket and spade routes in April and early May.....will they be continuing this into the summer period?
Easter is quite late this year - 16th April - so I'd assume that is partly the reason for more flights on sun routes during April/May.
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 15:44
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Good schedule for BHX albeit without a Saturday flight. On the subject of NYC breaks its pretty common for people to go for 3-4 nights. NYC hotels are very expensive and it's a city break after all. At the moment you can get £328 return with BA/AA via LHR with as little as 1hr on the ground at LHR, full service with everything included so LS flight only isn't really competitive.
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 15:51
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1 trip is quite abysmal, I've have thought maybe 4 or 5?
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 17:53
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BHX

Mart901- Saturday flights to BHX are starting from 1st July
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 18:15
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Thanks gazmo. Relieved the route is staying, I like BE and BHD is closer but me and the little fella can travel in March for £52 return in total, its served us well.
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 18:17
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Belfast mentioned in The New York Times for Norwegian.

Later this year, Norwegian plans to begin flying out of new American cities to include Newark; Newburgh, N.Y.; and Providence, R.I. On the other side of the ocean, it will begin to operate out of new cities including Barcelona; Belfast, Cork and Shannon in Ireland; and Edinburgh, Scotland. Average fares on the new Irish routes are expected to be $300 to $350 round trip, tax included.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/b...rket.html?_r=1
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 18:31
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Stewart airport won't work..
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 19:04
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Norwegian currently fly from two Caribbean destinations (PTP and FDF) to JFK, BOS, BWI and FLL with the 737-800 during the winter. Given that a potential BFS service would likely use the 738, I suppose it could make sense to operate to JFK. Yes, landing fees would be higher, but Norwegian already have the right aircraft and crew based out of JFK, and given the lack of direct competition that they'd face on the route, they'd be able to charge higher fares than on their potential EDI route.

Of course, this is purely hypothetical, and Stewart flights seem the most likely, but Norwegian's New York strategy doesn't seem to be that of a LCC: 6 European routes and 2 Caribbean routes out of JFK, and 1 European route out of EWR.
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 19:07
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The fact that the NYT thinks that Norwegian will be flying from EWR and that BCN will be a new routes says enough about the integrity of that article.

Of course it's possible, still think it's the most viable option for the moment.

We don't know what Norwegians tactics will be. They may well try BFS as a test for the market. They are also one of the only airlines willing to do 3/4pw Transatlantic to the East Coast. Most other airlines is 5pw+ or no route.
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 19:09
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If to be successful they have to offer connections within the USA and beyond. I think UA quoted 60% of pax connected via EWR. I don't think there are sufficient numbers for point to point from BFS. Only my view
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 19:15
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Originally Posted by AerRyan
The fact that the NYT thinks that Norwegian will be flying from EWR and that BCN will be a new routes says enough about the integrity of that article.
Where is Norwegian?s latest long-haul base? :: Routesonline

Norwegian Air to fly to Spain from four U.S. cities

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...rom-june-2017/

All of these state - including the airline's own website - that Norwegian will fly between BCN and EWR, so I don't understand why we should question the integrity of the article.

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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 20:50
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Because it reeks of poor research. Besides the fact that the BCN-LAX/OAK/EWR will be operating on a separate entity, it also gives the impression that you'll be able to fly from Cork/Shannon/Edinburgh/Belfast to there too.

I'd also like to see another article where Belfast is mentioned.
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 21:27
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Originally Posted by AerRyan
BCN-LAX/OAK/EWR will be operating on a separate entity
The article is telling us that Norwegian - which includes Norwegian Air Shuttle and its subsidiaries - will start operating new transatlantic routes. The simple truth of the matter is that BCN-EWR is a transatlantic route that Norwegian will start this year. I don't think that anyone cares whether it's Norwegian Air Shuttle, Norwegian Long Haul, Norwegian Air International; it's still Norwegian. Therefore it makes perfect sense that the New York Times would include BCN in its article about new transatlantic services to the New York area.

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it also gives the impression that you'll be able to fly from Cork/Shannon/Edinburgh/Belfast to there too.
Where does the article give you that impression?

Norwegian plans to begin flying out of new American cities to include Newark; Newburgh, N.Y.; and Providence, R.I. On the other side of the ocean, it will begin to operate out of new cities including Barcelona; Belfast, Cork and Shannon in Ireland; and Edinburgh, Scotland.
The article simply tells me that Norwegian will start flying transatlantic routes out of a range of cities - it doesn't give any route pairs.
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