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Mart901,
Unless the policies have suddenly changed EasyJet don't overbook, I've only ever seen it on rare and exceptional circumstances (for example having to send a crew member somewhere on short notice). Ryanair is the same, it keeps things simpler and avoids the need to pay out compensation.
Unless the policies have suddenly changed EasyJet don't overbook, I've only ever seen it on rare and exceptional circumstances (for example having to send a crew member somewhere on short notice). Ryanair is the same, it keeps things simpler and avoids the need to pay out compensation.
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Mart901,
Unless the policies have suddenly changed EasyJet don't overbook, I've only ever seen it on rare and exceptional circumstances (for example having to send a crew member somewhere on short notice). Ryanair is the same, it keeps things simpler and avoids the need to pay out compensation.
Unless the policies have suddenly changed EasyJet don't overbook, I've only ever seen it on rare and exceptional circumstances (for example having to send a crew member somewhere on short notice). Ryanair is the same, it keeps things simpler and avoids the need to pay out compensation.
It may be that they do not do this on European flights compared to intra-UK but they probably have better metrics to decide which flights have the highest likelihood of no shows at the gate. I seriously doubt there is anything like a set 10pc oversell.
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easyJet currently over book there flights network wide and have done for a quite some time not sure on the percentages they overbook however looking at the passenger figures for some of today's flights they are over booked by around 8/9 passenger.
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Per that link, more marketing lies: "it means aircraft leave with empty seats, increasing our costs...". Note that they provide no information as to how costs magically "increase" if an aircraft departs with empty seats. Actually the fuel burn is fractionally reduced... They presumably mean "cost per passenger carried" but that doesn't sound as good a justification.
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But surely with LC model, most passengers are not entitled to a refund unless they have paid the higher price...... just what percentage of their passengers pay the cheapest price, I wonder, guess it would be most so there is no loss of revenue if they don't turn up. All seems a bit of "spin" to me to, and surely overbooking and off-loading will incur extra costs for EZ as they then have to make compensation payments. Guess the only people who fully understand airline revenue management in any detail are all hidden away in the back-office and probably never saw the press release before it was issued anyway.
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To be fair it was a rushed and was a tendered opportunity - maybe if they had done it as a route development type approach and looked for interested tenders the EU would have approved it.
Instead it was agreed to give to the incumbent carrier which could be perceived as a back hander.
I do not blame the EU on this. It has rules and regulations and in this case it wasn't adhered to. Putting it to Tender properly will get round this perceived denial by the EU.
To be fair I fly mainly through Heathrow as the United Flights are normally not cost effective for Business flights. The flight does make money from what I have heard however the reality is they could best serve the aircraft more profitably flying other sectors. Its a business decision.
Instead it was agreed to give to the incumbent carrier which could be perceived as a back hander.
I do not blame the EU on this. It has rules and regulations and in this case it wasn't adhered to. Putting it to Tender properly will get round this perceived denial by the EU.
To be fair I fly mainly through Heathrow as the United Flights are normally not cost effective for Business flights. The flight does make money from what I have heard however the reality is they could best serve the aircraft more profitably flying other sectors. Its a business decision.
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Anybody could see this deal would never be allowed to happen, well apart from the bright sparks who came up with it. They made such basic errors.
Flogging a dead horse comes to mind, UA had decided a long time ago they are ending the route but just double checking with NI Government how much they want it and prepared to pay to keep it every now and again.
Flogging a dead horse comes to mind, UA had decided a long time ago they are ending the route but just double checking with NI Government how much they want it and prepared to pay to keep it every now and again.
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WTF? I voted Remain as I thought being part of Europe was good for business. Obviously not.
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Some might argue giving an operator 9 million to operate a route is bad for business and means other operators in same market are at a disadvantage.
Glad I voted leave
Sad day yes, but hopefully BFS will now be proactive in finding another airline to operate the route. Let's be positive
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I feel your pain, it's a real shame to see it go. Out of bitterness I could laugh and say "if we can't have it no-one can" but I really wanted to see Belfast keep the connection, just as I want to see Bristol get theirs back
Maybe we need an operator like Jetblue, and A321neoLR's to make thinner transatlantic routes work? I know for Newcastle at least, United were occasionally too expensive (read: roughly the same price as BA/AF/KL/EI, so people just went with them instead)
Maybe we need an operator like Jetblue, and A321neoLR's to make thinner transatlantic routes work? I know for Newcastle at least, United were occasionally too expensive (read: roughly the same price as BA/AF/KL/EI, so people just went with them instead)
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Northern Ireland has neither the population nor the economic activity to support LH routes. A citizen of NI has on average £2,700 less disposable income per annum compared to a citizen of the Republic. The impending economic headwinds of Brexit will only tip the balance even further in Dublin's favour. The folk on the hill who believe in Brexit need to start making clear to us as to how Brexit is an opportunity rather than the biggest economic disaster in Northern Ireland's history. We are at severe risk of becoming an irrelevant, isolated nation to the northwest of an irrelevant, isolated country to the northwest of the EU.
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Per that link, more marketing lies: "it means aircraft leave with empty seats, increasing our costs...". Note that they provide no information as to how costs magically "increase" if an aircraft departs with empty seats. Actually the fuel burn is fractionally reduced... They presumably mean "cost per passenger carried" but that doesn't sound as good a justification.
Overbooking increases the number of tickets they can sell, which reduces the cost to be covered by each ticket.
Seems pretty reasonable explanation on the link.
If they didn't overbook the cost of each ticket would increase, and therefore so would the price. This would just leave all customers paying more whether they ended up travelling or not.
Last edited by pilot9249; 4th Nov 2016 at 16:22.