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Would never happen IMO.
I mean can you imagine the DUP, after Five Long Years, standing back and watching a big Dublin fleg getting hoisted high and handsome right in the middle of Sydenham??
I mean can you imagine the DUP, after Five Long Years, standing back and watching a big Dublin fleg getting hoisted high and handsome right in the middle of Sydenham??
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The DUB interest in City is very real. There has been engagement for sometime and several high level visits. Willing buyer and a very willing seller, what other options have they with a debt of over £100m and no way of ever recovering it through the business. I think you'll find that's why management are being very reserved in saying anything that might be viewed as 'anti' such as speaking too loudly on the APD issue, etc.
If Dublin did attempt a City takeover which the Unionists would not be most pleased about our Martin could get them all to Derry during the "talks" phase, god knows they need some traffic.
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Interesting slant on things, I agree Unionist parties would not be pleased with and Southern Irish company owning a major piece of NI infrastructure. But equally they would have a major say in the future progress of the airport e.g. planning applications etc.
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In consideration of BHD's next foray of new routes into Europe, i.e Vueling to Barcelona and KLM to Amsterdam, should easyJet be considering some operations from BHD? Although only 2 routes, this represents a significant growth in their European operation that hitherto on a scheduled basis is about 32 services a week with EI, now will see an additional 10.
Yes we all know they tried BFS LTN and deemed it to offer no material improvements over BFS (though not convinced it was easy to measure that like for like with FR selling £1 BHD STN flights in mass).
However, easyJet could easily operate routes like Amsterdam, Paris and Geneva from their bases at those cities. They could do Barcelona on a w ex a UK airport, and all of this would negate the need to base an aircraft at the city airport and hence totally be unimpacted by the curfew etc. There is no doubt that City could offer them incredibly low terms in the hope of getting the business, and equally if they couldn't get the business, certainly it would put pressure at the door of BFS to reduce its charges.
EZY do appear to have struck some sort of long deal with BHD but I certainly do not see a good reason as to why easyJet could not operate from both airports as they do in many other cities.
Many will argue that KLM is after a different market i.e. connecting traffic, but given the level of capacity on LHR and overcapacity, I see that easyJet will have a market to defend on point to point....
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Yes we all know they tried BFS LTN and deemed it to offer no material improvements over BFS (though not convinced it was easy to measure that like for like with FR selling £1 BHD STN flights in mass).
However, easyJet could easily operate routes like Amsterdam, Paris and Geneva from their bases at those cities. They could do Barcelona on a w ex a UK airport, and all of this would negate the need to base an aircraft at the city airport and hence totally be unimpacted by the curfew etc. There is no doubt that City could offer them incredibly low terms in the hope of getting the business, and equally if they couldn't get the business, certainly it would put pressure at the door of BFS to reduce its charges.
EZY do appear to have struck some sort of long deal with BHD but I certainly do not see a good reason as to why easyJet could not operate from both airports as they do in many other cities.
Many will argue that KLM is after a different market i.e. connecting traffic, but given the level of capacity on LHR and overcapacity, I see that easyJet will have a market to defend on point to point....
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i dont know what curfew is at bhd. cant see easy doing much from bhd as the loads would be restricted also they like running the last flights of the day way past mid night.
at brs they average about 5 flights per night running past midnight till about 01.30 local time.
as was said only w patterns would work,providing they would not have to restrict pax loadings.
at brs they average about 5 flights per night running past midnight till about 01.30 local time.
as was said only w patterns would work,providing they would not have to restrict pax loadings.
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Easy tried bhd and found no commercial advantage though that means nothing as times change and it was only the luton flights at the end of the day.
There are a couple of ezy flights at bfs that would go past the curfew time at bhd and quite often delayed flights too, but again that doesn't mean a lot.
As for the dub/bhd purchase would it not be more of an advantage if the daa bought bfs ? No restrictions, 24/7 operations, plenty of runway and capacity to expand. Don't shoot me down but is Dub almost at capacity? I don't know.
Looking to the future would it be viable to move all cargo operations to bfs get the railway sorted there and move freight around by rail and road. Would it free some capacity up at dub? I don't know how big the freight operation is at dublin but I'd guess it's pretty big. I know there would be huge costs involved and I'm probably talking rubbish, it's just a thought.
There are a couple of ezy flights at bfs that would go past the curfew time at bhd and quite often delayed flights too, but again that doesn't mean a lot.
As for the dub/bhd purchase would it not be more of an advantage if the daa bought bfs ? No restrictions, 24/7 operations, plenty of runway and capacity to expand. Don't shoot me down but is Dub almost at capacity? I don't know.
Looking to the future would it be viable to move all cargo operations to bfs get the railway sorted there and move freight around by rail and road. Would it free some capacity up at dub? I don't know how big the freight operation is at dublin but I'd guess it's pretty big. I know there would be huge costs involved and I'm probably talking rubbish, it's just a thought.
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The curfew is 2130 last movement. That's at least how the schedule should look.
If easyJet wanted to operate any route ex Europe to Bhd from one of those bases they could easily do it with 319, and indeed 320.
Without a base they would really not need to be concerned with curfew...
If easyJet wanted to operate any route ex Europe to Bhd from one of those bases they could easily do it with 319, and indeed 320.
Without a base they would really not need to be concerned with curfew...
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However. I could see the unionist parties getting highly animated about such a move!!!
SS I couldn't see the DUP letting this happen even if Dublin were willing to buy it. But could they stop it?
If Dublin did attempt a City takeover which the Unionists would not be most pleased about our Martin could get them all to Derry during the "talks" phase, god knows they need some traffic.
Interesting slant on things, I agree Unionist parties would not be pleased with and Southern Irish company owning a major piece of NI infrastructure. But equally they would have a major say in the future progress of the airport e.g. planning applications etc.
Now this did raise some political interest, but if I remember correctly, Arlene Foster's main concern was that ESB would invest adequately in NIE for the future, and protect NIE jobs in NI...not about whether or not the Irish Government should own Northern Irish infrastructure...
This is an old argument, with no relevance to today...more pressing is the question of whether or not this would be good for BHD in the business sense. And that's a very different question...but if the market price is paid, it will happen.
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BFS April Stats 2015
Passengers this Month: 340,930 +5.1
Passengers rolling year: 4,051,642 +0.5
New Routes stats:
Rome: 1,941
Prague: 1,702
Vilnius: 796 (Started 22nd April)
Katowice: 2,238
Other Stats:
Amsterdam: 8,694 +2
Alicante: 11,039 +18
Malaga: 11,033 +8
Palma: 8,909 +46
Las Palmas: 1,498
Keflavik: 2,006
Geneva: 1,975 +4
Dalaman: 1,325 +30
Krakow: 3,545 -8
Newark: 4,692 -17
Luton: 22,105 +0.5
Stansted: 25,165 -2
Gatwick: N/A
Birmingham: 16,575 -1
Bristol: 20,682 +7
Edinburgh: 20,752 +8
Glasgow: 22,836 +10
Liverpool: 34,359 -2
Manchester: 18,965 +5
Newcastle: 17,314 +4
Passengers rolling year: 4,051,642 +0.5
New Routes stats:
Rome: 1,941
Prague: 1,702
Vilnius: 796 (Started 22nd April)
Katowice: 2,238
Other Stats:
Amsterdam: 8,694 +2
Alicante: 11,039 +18
Malaga: 11,033 +8
Palma: 8,909 +46
Las Palmas: 1,498
Keflavik: 2,006
Geneva: 1,975 +4
Dalaman: 1,325 +30
Krakow: 3,545 -8
Newark: 4,692 -17
Luton: 22,105 +0.5
Stansted: 25,165 -2
Gatwick: N/A
Birmingham: 16,575 -1
Bristol: 20,682 +7
Edinburgh: 20,752 +8
Glasgow: 22,836 +10
Liverpool: 34,359 -2
Manchester: 18,965 +5
Newcastle: 17,314 +4
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Listened to the Nolan show and Mr Ambrose did not come across to well. Tough gig with everyone against you but difficult to say there will be no more flights on the one hand but you want to lift the seats for sale limit so you can go to 48000 flights a year not great messaging. The good folk in East Belfast will be really happy when BHD is sold to the devil that is the Irish Republic.....how is the heartland of the Duppers going to take that one. Can you imagine the hated tricolor flying high down there.
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Boarding process
Just home from a day return to NCL. I really find the boarding process at gates 10 - 14 a tad stressful. The gate area this morning was packed and when we eventually " boarded " we stood on the stairs for ages. Its nice to board and depart on time but i disagree with making paxs stand on stairs. I'm an Easyjet fan but not the boarding process at BFS (which i know is operated by handlers ). The boarding at NCL was perfect. Boarding pass scanned and waited, seated, in a spacious lounge.
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You are held on the stairs till the flight attendants make their way thru the empty cabin carefully laying all the seatbelts out in that crisscross pattern...only for every single passenger to flick them out of the way to get sat down...what a complete waste of peoples time...heres an idea, when u start boarding let the passengers continue on out to the plane where they will get straight on without queing on the stairs, blocking aisles etc! And the bonus of the fa's not having to stress us on and into seats while trying to make the departure slot...its not rocket science u know
There are various checks that need to be done before pax can be let on after deboarding. E.G. All the seats need to be checked to ensure working seatbelt and lifejacket is present (apparently they get stolen quite frequently??!!), as well as cleaning the cabin. Having the pax that much closer to the aircraft before the final green light for boarding shortens the turn around time and reduces the cost to the locos. A pain in the a*** I agree. FR do the same at LBA in my experience.
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