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Old 11th Apr 2012, 16:15
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The numbers on the sun routes are good does not seem to have dented to much overall the numbers out of Bfs at the minute are very good the routes to MAN,SEN are doing very well full loads on lot of flights?
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Brilliant to hear !
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Any rumours for new routes in 2013 ? Aer Lingus Regional ? I know that there is talk of resuming a Toronto service, or how likely is it that Emirates or Etihad start flights out of Belfast ? It's about time that BFS gets a new long haul service
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Remember when comparing numbers that the last week and half has seen increased traffic due to Easter, but yes, flights including MAN and SEN have been hitting the 156 mark, but then so have most domestics during this period, even some of the flights on the A320 have been at capacity..
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Seems like West of the Atlantic is a dead duck, everything other than the United95 seems to want to go from DUB (the pre-clearance for the US border is an unbeatable draw, especially when linked with the complete lack of APD down there. Then considering you can get from Belfast to DUB in less than 2 hours and they have cheap parking etc etc)

Canada should be a possibility but capacity in DUB for Canadian routes probably meets demand at the moment.

I'd be interested to hear what this supposed Eastern Route is (although there have been lots of rumours about that for as long as I can remember!)

In my opinion they should be trying for something to Scandinavia/Northern Europe for city breaks/skiing in winter. And a revived Prague route would be good too!
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Managed to hear a quick interview on BBC news at lunch about a political visitor from China, Ms Liu.. if i was a betting person i think i would put my money on a route to an Asian country as the rumored route mentioned here..
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Wouldn't have anything to do with the Air China A330 sitting on 25 tonight?
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Yep, this was Liu Yandong arriving yesterday (with pic).

BBC News - Top Chinese politician Liu Yandong arrives in Northern Ireland
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I see BA flew in Earlier. Now on departure board for a 2355 departure to Manchester.
I think it is Airbus 319/320.

Anybody know the reason for the visit?,BA4503...

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Old 13th Apr 2012, 23:06
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It was BA City Flyer, E190, G-LCYL as theirs is no towbar for this type at BFS for the pushback he needed to stop short of 17 in order to self maneuver.
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The provisional CAA statistics are out for March 12.
Interesting to note that with new competition from WW at BHD the routes from BFS have actually grown!! Price war encouraging more people to fly??

AMS up 10%
GVA up 26%
FAO up 42%
ALC up 48%
AGP no % change
PMI up 159%

Would seem that BCN and MJV may have suffered both down 17%. Canaries on the whole slightly down also with the exception of FUE.

EWR down 15%!! 6890 passengers carried on the route. Can anyone work out an accurate LF?? Know this means very little as yield and Business First may well be doing well.

On the whole BFS March figures up 10.3% and rolling 12 months up 4.9%
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This also makes a nonsense of the argument that the routes WW have launched were just duplication and there was no need for them - if anything it proves the market needed shaking up.
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The duplication hasn't watered down the market. WW flights are currently around 130. So both airports are doing well on European routes
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I wonder though has EZY vs WW brought on a price war resulting in unsustainable pricing by the airlines, but fares to good to refuse for the travelling public. Thus resulting in a reduction in passengers to BCN, MJV, the Canaries etc.

Are these low prices distorting what was a mature market?? Same thing happened when EI competed on the AMS, NCE and CDG. After EI pulled these routes, capacity and loads seemed to settle back and return to 'normal'. Obviously two carriers couldn't make those routes work, is there room for WW if charging sustainable fares on the routes they are now competing in. They could well be, but guess none of us are privy to that information just yet.
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Old 16th Apr 2012, 22:16
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AMS up 10%
GVA up 26%
FAO up 42%
ALC up 48%
AGP no % change
PMI up 159%

Would seem
that BCN and MJV may have suffered both down 17%. Canaries on the whole slightly
down also with the exception of FUE.
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ALC only up due to AerLingus and Easyjet both operating the route for the month. Previous year Easyjet had the winter market to themselves.

WW started at the end of the month so that's not really of big significance to ALC Route.

AMS capacity up by 6 a week from BHD (now dropped back) and an extra 3 from BFS so we have total of 16 flights a week where there were 7 same time LY! So more than double the flights for 10% increase! Good to see them on the up though.

GVA now also seeing Jet2 flights, I dont think these were going last year? Did City airport lose some flights on charter than BE used to operate?

Palma, probably 159% up on a small base, I would say down to timing, ie what date in march did summer timetable kick in last year v this year! Not being negative, just that 25th March this year v 28th last year, not sure on the exact dates though!

Long may the growth continue in BFS, lets hope both airports indeed the 3 NI Airports get a good summer season.

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Is MJV Malta's airport ? Also how are the loads on the Easyjet Krakow route ??? I would hope this route would do well because it is the only route between Northern Ireland and Poland. Finally how about TCX ? How are the first summer flights doing ? (Larnaca,Dalaman etc) and is Enfidha and Sharm El Sheikh being served by BFS this summer ?
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Old 17th Apr 2012, 16:39
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MJV is the airport code for Murcia San Javier airport.
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Oh right, well how are the loads for Malta like ?
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Dont suppose anyone has stats for the domestic routes?
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Old 17th Apr 2012, 19:31
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Find all the information here -

UK Airport Provisional Statistics: 2012 - 03 | Aviation Intelligence | About the CAA

Provisional statistics published on-line about this time every month.
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