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Old 6th Jun 2012, 12:55
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So my arguement would be that the cost of keeping hold of its business is not cheap. Take the speculation re EI and the whole EZY move of LTN route, yes it was dressed up as not a tangible benefit, but my money would be with the idea that BFS had to sweeten the deal for EZY.
Probably true Bud, but I imagine the reductions are not nearly so drastic as one would imagine. It kind of highlights the variations in strategy in general between the BHD/BFS. BHD have gone for some reinvestment (plus they started with a newer terminal) plus they go for 'footfall' through said terminal rather than flight based revenue (All the airlines seem to fly for buttons if the rumors are to be believed - I can't imagine EI even being tempted if they weren't offered the big zero to come down)

BFS on the otherhand seem to try and consolidate what they have and try to ride out the storm as far as airlines go, new airlines just don't seem to be happenning. Terminal investment I think has been unavoidable rather than desired. Even so, If anyone has seen the figures for both airports, I would imagine BHD smiling less in the short term.

It will be interesting to see though when the economy turns, who has positioned themselves best!
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LOL are you for real?

First off you didn't 'bail' us out. The UK government offered Ireland a bilateral loan, which it must pay back, and initially the UK government was also looking for interest as well.

Secondly, it's a bit rich for someone from the North to be talking about bailing the South out when yous are effectively bailed out on an annual basis by the British taxpayer who are forced to prop up the basket case of an economy that is Northern Ireland because you're incapable of balancing your books, despite being more subsidised than Africa.

So spare us the "after we bailed them out" crap, you didn't bail anyone out.
First of all, it was meant as a bit of a joke.. perhaps the way i worded it after being up all day didn't help, but i guess its a touchy subject or most dont see it that way, thought we were by those days on this forum.. if i offended then i apologise... was not my intention. Our own government in the mainland is more damaging to our little piece of aviation industry through tax than the DAA is.. but that has been discussed to death

Its hard to know what EI will do, i like to have my flights and car parking booked well in advance to LHR, while my flights are booked through to December, i still have car parking to sort out.. but with so many rumors about EI going or split operations im holding off.. would be strange to completely close a well performing base

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Old 6th Jun 2012, 15:35
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Regarding The Aer Lingus winter schedule. I would say that we will hear from Aer Lingus the day that baby go. But I just don't see them moving to BHD.

Also regarding Etihad and a Canadian route at BFS didn't everyone say that we will hear about it as early as July ? Or will the whole plan be dropped now that the DAA Advertisement Camapaign has been launched here ?
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Also regarding Etihad and a Canadian route at BFS didn't everyone say that we will hear about it as early as July ? Or will the whole plan be dropped now that the DAA Advertisement Camapaign has been launched here ?
As far as im aware, the rumored long haul routes in the Belfast Telegraph were being dealt with by the government more than the airport itself.. the ideal time would be to announce it before the end of this summer to allow early bookings for next year
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DAA Advertising Campaign

The least we could do in Belfast is sustain a scheduled route to Germany !
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Old 6th Jun 2012, 20:18
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when yous are effectively bailed out on an annual basis by the British taxpayer who are forced to prop up the basket case...

Everyone in Northern Ireland is a British taxpayer. The taxes that we pay, whether we are Unionists or Nationalists (or neither as in my case. I'm sick of the whole argument), go straight into the British Treasury, in exactly the same way as the taxes of someone in Wembley or Bournemouth. Services paid for by taxation in Northern Ireland are paid for out of the same pot as services in the rest of the UK. Sorry. I'm not being deliberately argumentative, and I'm not trying to make a political point, but at the moment that's the way it is. As far as I'm concerned I pay my taxes and National Insurance contributions, entitling me to the same services as everyone else paying taxes and National Insurance contributions to the British Government.
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Old 6th Jun 2012, 20:58
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Originally Posted by tigger2k8
First of all, it was meant as a bit of a joke.. perhaps the way i worded it after being up all day didn't help, but i guess its a touchy subject or most dont see it that way, thought we were by those days on this forum.. if i offended then i apologise... was not my intention.
Fair enough, might help using a smiley though so people know you're only messing.
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Must we constantly have this tedious, repetitive waffle about the merits of one airport or two in the Belfast area? Its a bit like saying we should only have one port in the Belfast area not 2 - Larne and Belfast or that we should only have one university in the Belfast area not 2. We have what we have, rightly or wrongly and neither is going to go away and let the other get on with it.

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Very true...just get on with it.
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I agree we have two and best just get on with it.
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Exactly, i agree, 2 businesses, let them get on with it and also stop all this political babble.
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According to blackpool thread blackpool has been dropped after this year. They also say jet2 has started dalaman for 2013, so if BPL can support a schedule dalaman I'm sure BFS can, maybe that will be on the cards
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o if BPL can support a schedule dalaman I'm sure BFS can
I'm afraid it simply does not work like that its all down to demand. Airlines go where the people want to go.
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Aer Lingus

An unscheduled Aer Lingus A320 just touched down at BFS, one of the 319's must be tech?? as this A320 was not scheduled, and the BCN flight that was scheduled for 3pm has not yet boarded/departed. There have been a few instances of technical issues with the 319's for EI at BFS since they came into service. It is good comfort that EI have spare 320 sitting on the ground at DUB.

Interestingly, are there any flights leaving BFS for Poland - Poznan for the football? I would have expected Belfast to get at least 1 charter?

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Old 10th Jun 2012, 17:50
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Yes it is EI-EPR that is tech, EI-CVB that was positioned up
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Quote: "Aaron, to put it bluntly... Yes.

Bail em out n thats how they thank us in return."


It's in the UK's interests, BTW it's a bi-lateral loan and nothing to do with the eurozone bailouts. Ireland is by far the UK's biggest trading partner in the eurozone and indeed there is more trade between the UK and Ireland than between the UK and all the BRIC countries. Our economies are closely linked.
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Old 11th Jun 2012, 00:01
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It's in the UK's interests, BTW it's a bi-lateral loan and nothing to do with the eurozone bailouts. Ireland is by far the UK's biggest trading partner in the eurozone and indeed there is more trade between the UK and Ireland than between the UK and all the BRIC countries. Our economies are closely linked.
Clearly you missed the posts after which cleared up that post
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Old 11th Jun 2012, 16:22
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Just wondering if the new jet2 flights to Reus will mean a reduction on a different route or is it a slight expansion.
Also any news on the 2 new ezy routes that was mentioned on here last month?
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Old 11th Jun 2012, 19:07
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More than likely Blackpool is going. Hopefully that will mean another new route seeing as how Blackpool is 4 or 5 per week during the peak months.
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could it be EMA? would make sense
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