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Business Lounge to be called ''Causeway Lounge''
The business lounge at Belfast International will now be called ''Causeway Lounge'' once its reopens after the full refurbishment that is taking place.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/bu...-34418243.html
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/bu...-34418243.html
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This is certainly progress, yet outside of United's Newark service, it is hard to see where the demand will come from for this lounge to make it sustainable. In the days of Aer Lingus at the airport I had been into the old lounge on a few occasions and I was the only person in there at that time. So something has to be coming to justify the investment. Ryanair cannot be the reason for it, and when I read comments about BFS working on a project, I cannot help but think that we will see Norwegian coming in with a transatlantic route, and like the Cork proposal a Barcelona route to boot. Worth considering. In terms of the Lounge that alone seems small in terms of numbers.
Alternatively, the only other thing could be BFS trying to tick the boxes in order to make a BA return achievable.
Any other ideas?
Alternatively, the only other thing could be BFS trying to tick the boxes in order to make a BA return achievable.
Any other ideas?
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Lots of travellers gain lounge access from bank accounts such as Prioroty Pass sp don't need to be travelling with a premium service airline plus out sourcing lounges seem to be the way to go for most airlines so makes sence for BFS to have the upgrade
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Yes I agree with your comments, re priority pass etc. but the old one never seems very busy, I am at this point at pains to see how the volume of visitors will justify the investment, which likely to be significant. What has changes between now and the last lounge?
People like holiday extras etc. have been offering lounge access at a pay per play rate, yet I haven't noticed at any point the lounge being busy when it was open.
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Yes I agree with your comments, re priority pass etc. but the old one never seems very busy, I am at this point at pains to see how the volume of visitors will justify the investment, which likely to be significant. What has changes between now and the last lounge?
People like holiday extras etc. have been offering lounge access at a pay per play rate, yet I haven't noticed at any point the lounge being busy when it was open.
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I think the reason it was quiet was because it wasn't worth the money
Having used BHD on a few occasions it is worth the money to sit in a nice environment with great selection of food and all you can drink alcohol
BFS offered none of this
Just my views anyway
Having used BHD on a few occasions it is worth the money to sit in a nice environment with great selection of food and all you can drink alcohol
BFS offered none of this
Just my views anyway
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Exactly - needs to be value for money to entice people to use it. It probably would be a factor some airlines would think about when looking at potential airports, and when the airport is looking for investors it looks good to have such a facility. I doubt very much FR could care less about business lounges!
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This is certainly progress, yet outside of United's Newark service, it is hard to see where the demand will come from for this lounge to make it sustainable. In the days of Aer Lingus at the airport I had been into the old lounge on a few occasions and I was the only person in there at that time. So something has to be coming to justify the investment. Ryanair cannot be the reason for it, and when I read comments about BFS working on a project, I cannot help but think that we will see Norwegian coming in with a transatlantic route, and like the Cork proposal a Barcelona route to boot. Worth considering. In terms of the Lounge that alone seems small in terms of numbers.
Alternatively, the only other thing could be BFS trying to tick the boxes in order to make a BA return achievable.
Any other ideas?
Alternatively, the only other thing could be BFS trying to tick the boxes in order to make a BA return achievable.
Any other ideas?
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Also before everyone gets carried away its worth remembering its a chargeable service, one with the potential to make money. When a business looks at investment that's pretty much the first and main consideration after legal compliance such as health and safety. So while probably most of the airport could do with refurbishment, priority will go to things like business lounges - its like having a club class lounge on a ferry or a first class carriage on a train.
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May sound a little far fetched
But if management did manage to entice BA and I stress "IF" that would more than likely mean EI would return with them
Could it be viable for EI Regional to arrive at BFS and compete on routes that BE operate? Routes which EZY and FR couldn't operate profitably
Such as SOU EXT ABZ INV CWL NQY maybe even BOH?
But if management did manage to entice BA and I stress "IF" that would more than likely mean EI would return with them
Could it be viable for EI Regional to arrive at BFS and compete on routes that BE operate? Routes which EZY and FR couldn't operate profitably
Such as SOU EXT ABZ INV CWL NQY maybe even BOH?
EXT is Flybe's home base - dream on. BOH is being closed by BE - Jet2 did it for a while. Didn't last long. CWL is a thin route to say the least, but BE have it covered. SOU does well - its runway is likely the reason neither EZY nor FR are in town. ABZ is undergoing massive consolidation because of oil prices nosediving. INV would provide low numbers (as is served thoroughly by BE). NQY is a seasonal destination that is also thin from the north of Ireland.
So. Two things would need to happen. The first would be IAG deciding an airport stocked with EZY and FR (in some form) would be an attractive proposition. The second (after the very unlikely first) thing to happen would be the chaps in charge to decide all the established routes operated by BE would be financially viable for them to duplicate at BFS.
Seems unlikely.......
So. Two things would need to happen. The first would be IAG deciding an airport stocked with EZY and FR (in some form) would be an attractive proposition. The second (after the very unlikely first) thing to happen would be the chaps in charge to decide all the established routes operated by BE would be financially viable for them to duplicate at BFS.
Seems unlikely.......
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They would be starting a route to fight to get BE of it and gain passengers not to run it at same freq as BE
Also I believe BE ABZ service is going double daily on certain days of the week from the summer I think I read somewhere
BOH didn't work for jet2 potentially because of the size of aircraft the same reason they dropped Cork
And BE leaving BOH would have nothing to do with EIR for a start they didn't even operate the route from BHD also I believe the reason they dropped BOH is because they found passengers where moving from SOU to BOH which ended to effecting loads at 2 airports
Also I believe BE ABZ service is going double daily on certain days of the week from the summer I think I read somewhere
BOH didn't work for jet2 potentially because of the size of aircraft the same reason they dropped Cork
And BE leaving BOH would have nothing to do with EIR for a start they didn't even operate the route from BHD also I believe the reason they dropped BOH is because they found passengers where moving from SOU to BOH which ended to effecting loads at 2 airports
I see. You're lining up a lot of conjecture involving EI Regional to get BE off the routes they currently serve successfully? Are you aware of their available fleet?
Also. Have you been on flights from CWL, EXT or SOU to BHD? I have. And trust me, the users are perfectly happy with landing at BHD.
BE increasing frequency on ABZ would suggest BE are doing well. I mentioned BOH as a possible opportunity. The only opportunity in your fantasy post.
Also. Have you been on flights from CWL, EXT or SOU to BHD? I have. And trust me, the users are perfectly happy with landing at BHD.
BE increasing frequency on ABZ would suggest BE are doing well. I mentioned BOH as a possible opportunity. The only opportunity in your fantasy post.
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Also. Have you been on flights from CWL, EXT or SOU to BHD? I have. And trust me, the users are perfectly happy with landing at BHD
How come every route at bhd that is duplicated at bfs has a higher volume of traffic using the bfs option? Before you answer aircraft size. EI lgw/bhd route has always been in decline. Man and BHX have a much higher frequency. The route passenger figures are fact. Your assumption on cwl/bhd being prefered by passengers over cwl/bfs at a guess would be based on 'conjecture'
How come every route at bhd that is duplicated at bfs has a higher volume of traffic using the bfs option? Before you answer aircraft size. EI lgw/bhd route has always been in decline. Man and BHX have a much higher frequency. The route passenger figures are fact. Your assumption on cwl/bhd being prefered by passengers over cwl/bfs at a guess would be based on 'conjecture'
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More jobs created at BFS. Article states just under 300 created in last two months, with only FR one aircraft arriving in March, seems a lot of staff?
Belfast International Airport: 115 jobs created by six companies - BBC News
Belfast International Airport: 115 jobs created by six companies - BBC News
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It's a tad futile a conversation to say that for the same routes ex BFS there are higher numbers. If easyJet ops were into BHD and Flybe into BFS the trend would swiftly be reversed. Equally, BHD LGW was busier than BFS LGW for a time when capacity and low fares were more widely available. So price does play a big part.
Aer Lingus equally have reduced aircraft size and numbers have declined proportionately in turn. The level of passengers on BHD LGW are as good as BFS in proportion to the seats available. If airlines don't put the capacity into place, the passengers won't fly.
There are a cocktail of factors at work here, yes price. But frequency, number of seats, schedule convenience, relevant strength of the airline to compete, how established a route is etc.
Just my perspective on the subject. While this post will defend the performance of BHD, it could always be argued that the proximity of BFS as too far out of town is a nonsense, bourne out by the figures....
It's a tad futile a conversation to say that for the same routes ex BFS there are higher numbers. If easyJet ops were into BHD and Flybe into BFS the trend would swiftly be reversed. Equally, BHD LGW was busier than BFS LGW for a time when capacity and low fares were more widely available. So price does play a big part.
Aer Lingus equally have reduced aircraft size and numbers have declined proportionately in turn. The level of passengers on BHD LGW are as good as BFS in proportion to the seats available. If airlines don't put the capacity into place, the passengers won't fly.
There are a cocktail of factors at work here, yes price. But frequency, number of seats, schedule convenience, relevant strength of the airline to compete, how established a route is etc.
Just my perspective on the subject. While this post will defend the performance of BHD, it could always be argued that the proximity of BFS as too far out of town is a nonsense, bourne out by the figures....