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Can anyone in the know provide me a list of aircraft at each of LS' bases for summer 2014 and summer 2015? I'm just interested to see how the composition of the fleets/bases works. If anyone knows the weekly rotations as well that would be an extra added bonus.
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Well judging by flightradar24 website East Midlands runway can't be closed any more. Because as I type this message a Ryanair, Boeing 737-800 inbound from Cork has just landed and its been followed in by a TNT Airways Boeing 757 which is on the approach.
It would seem that a Thomson Airways, Boeing 737-800 inbound from KOS has diverted to Birmingham.
It would seem that a Thomson Airways, Boeing 737-800 inbound from KOS has diverted to Birmingham.
Jet2 733 G-GDFT has apparently closed the runway at EMA, can anyone bring any news on this situation?
They are going to have to watch themselves, else the national press will get hold of the story, and that could have consequences. I suppose that because Jet2 don't serve London, they aren't that interested though!
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Death Traps is a little harsh. Yes they are old but Jet2 have excellent engineering. FT is a fairly new addition to the fleet and probably hasn't had the Jet 2 engineering touch yet. Just because an aircraft is old doesn't make it a death trap. I own a 1984 aircraft and it is well looked after and has never given me a moments worry. New aircraft have problems too, heard of the 787?
FT is an ex BMW Baby ac and is only 16 years old which is young for a 733. Please be careful what you put on here a blanket statement putting down an airline like that could loose a lot of good people their jobs in the long run.
FYI the Privilege Style ac are not much younger than this ac. Jet2 take maintenance seriously they accept older ac have problems more frequently hence keeping spare ac available, Norwegian didn't think they needed to with the 787 and look what happened to them.
FT is an ex BMW Baby ac and is only 16 years old which is young for a 733. Please be careful what you put on here a blanket statement putting down an airline like that could loose a lot of good people their jobs in the long run.
FYI the Privilege Style ac are not much younger than this ac. Jet2 take maintenance seriously they accept older ac have problems more frequently hence keeping spare ac available, Norwegian didn't think they needed to with the 787 and look what happened to them.
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ATNotts,
Two of your quotes;
"I ask, it is really wise to fan the flames of "bad publicity", putting Monarch employee's jobs at risk? Personally I consider it bad form, and something that we shouldn't be indulging in in these forums."
"Is this the second or third time this season that Jet2 has closed EMA's runway?
They are going to have to watch themselves, else the national press will get hold of the story, and that could have consequences. I suppose that because Jet2 don't serve London, they aren't that interested though!"
It seems your concerns for airline's employees are rather selective...!
Lighty89,
I am somewhat surprised that you ever booked to fly with Jet2 since you consider their aircraft to be "death traps!" If I were you I would give some serious thought to what you are saying before posting such rubbish!
Balair
Two of your quotes;
"I ask, it is really wise to fan the flames of "bad publicity", putting Monarch employee's jobs at risk? Personally I consider it bad form, and something that we shouldn't be indulging in in these forums."
"Is this the second or third time this season that Jet2 has closed EMA's runway?
They are going to have to watch themselves, else the national press will get hold of the story, and that could have consequences. I suppose that because Jet2 don't serve London, they aren't that interested though!"
It seems your concerns for airline's employees are rather selective...!
Lighty89,
I am somewhat surprised that you ever booked to fly with Jet2 since you consider their aircraft to be "death traps!" If I were you I would give some serious thought to what you are saying before posting such rubbish!
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Dont forget the media love to hype things up. Jet2 have never caused the EMA runway to be closed at all.
The Jet2 earlier in the year only blocked the runway for 10 minutes whilst they confirmed the u/c hadnt overheated and tyres hadn't deflated then the aircraft was towed off
And then last night wasn't even on the runway. They made it to stand before evacuating but I guess RFFS were possibly committed to the evacuation and couldn't provide cover for runway movements.
The Jet2 earlier in the year only blocked the runway for 10 minutes whilst they confirmed the u/c hadnt overheated and tyres hadn't deflated then the aircraft was towed off
And then last night wasn't even on the runway. They made it to stand before evacuating but I guess RFFS were possibly committed to the evacuation and couldn't provide cover for runway movements.
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Yes probably exaggerated I know. However....
Quick search on EC-ISY brings up no air accident incidents in its history.
On a number of Jet2 planes I have been on a few come up for each!!
G-GDFC (Just after i got off in 2011, ls170 right wing engine flames)
G-CELF
C-GDFH
G-LSAN
All of these have numerous incidents....
I'll take EC-ISY anyday.
Quick search on EC-ISY brings up no air accident incidents in its history.
On a number of Jet2 planes I have been on a few come up for each!!
G-GDFC (Just after i got off in 2011, ls170 right wing engine flames)
G-CELF
C-GDFH
G-LSAN
All of these have numerous incidents....
I'll take EC-ISY anyday.
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HOODED
I think that trying to compare the inevitable problems that you get with a new into service (especially one that is radical departure from anything previous both in terms of design and the method of product) with aged aircraft is disingenuous.
There is a long, actually very long list of Jet2 events, which in most case appear to be down to age related wear and tear, old aircraft go tech more its that simple, but that does not make them death traps,far from it, Norwegian had a turn back to ALC recently following a engine fire warning and that was on an NG a 14.5 years old one, the oldest in Norwegians fleet in fact and due to be retired from the fleet this winter.
Jet2's business model is and always has been based on the far lower capital cost of using aged aircraft, a very successful business model, the slighter higher fuel consumption and engineering costs still gives them a cost advantage over other operators and allows them to have the required back up aircraft.
There is a long, actually very long list of Jet2 events, which in most case appear to be down to age related wear and tear, old aircraft go tech more its that simple, but that does not make them death traps,far from it, Norwegian had a turn back to ALC recently following a engine fire warning and that was on an NG a 14.5 years old one, the oldest in Norwegians fleet in fact and due to be retired from the fleet this winter.
Jet2's business model is and always has been based on the far lower capital cost of using aged aircraft, a very successful business model, the slighter higher fuel consumption and engineering costs still gives them a cost advantage over other operators and allows them to have the required back up aircraft.
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Lighty89 - If you have a preference for choosing one airline over another for your personal travel needs then that is entirely your perogative. However, to come forward on a public bulletin board making indefensible allegations is another matter altogether. It is not clever and is wholly unwarranted.
I see that you have only a very small number of previous posts to your name, so maybe you are new on here. So let me give you a little bit of friendly advice. Have a good read of the Ryanair thread. Going back, you will find a series of apologies / retractions posted by individuals who, like yourself, made allegations on PPRuNe concerning the safety of an airline. Being unable to substantiate their assertions, they found themselves facing legal action and were called upon to make a donation to charity in recompense.
If you wish to persist in posting total nonsense concerning "death traps" on PPRuNe, I suggest you gather some evidence which you would be happy to present in your defence in court. Otherwise, you might be well advised to keep your ignorance and prejudice to yourself. The lawyers won't be impressed by the excuse that you "probably exaggerated".
I see that you have only a very small number of previous posts to your name, so maybe you are new on here. So let me give you a little bit of friendly advice. Have a good read of the Ryanair thread. Going back, you will find a series of apologies / retractions posted by individuals who, like yourself, made allegations on PPRuNe concerning the safety of an airline. Being unable to substantiate their assertions, they found themselves facing legal action and were called upon to make a donation to charity in recompense.
If you wish to persist in posting total nonsense concerning "death traps" on PPRuNe, I suggest you gather some evidence which you would be happy to present in your defence in court. Otherwise, you might be well advised to keep your ignorance and prejudice to yourself. The lawyers won't be impressed by the excuse that you "probably exaggerated".
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Shed on a pole...
Funny enough, I am a lawyer
I can say what I want, that was my opinion, I am allowed an opinion.
Without going in depth, I know what you have said is unfounded.
Also, you only have took on numerous new websites at comments on articles about the recent Jet2 incidents and there is plenty of the same.
And Twitter, dont even start about that... Type the word Jet2 in and see what comes up!
So I suggest you stop trying to be clever.
Funny enough, I am a lawyer
I can say what I want, that was my opinion, I am allowed an opinion.
Without going in depth, I know what you have said is unfounded.
Also, you only have took on numerous new websites at comments on articles about the recent Jet2 incidents and there is plenty of the same.
And Twitter, dont even start about that... Type the word Jet2 in and see what comes up!
So I suggest you stop trying to be clever.
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So how many incidents come up for VH-OQA and G-TUIE, both mere infants in aviation terms. G-BYAG built in 1993, 6 years later on its way to the scrap yard in bits. Aircraft age has little connection to the number of incidents.
Lighty - you are mixing up incidents and accidents to make your point - which is significant in this arena. If you are a lawyer you should understand that language is important. As for free speech - I guess if I went on a legal forum and stated that 'Haddaway and Shiiite Solicitors LLP' were a bunch of thieving lying reprobates I would expect to be on the receiving end of a strongly worded letter. There is a warning about hiding behind anonymity on this forum - so please be careful what you say.
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Lighty..if you beleive that and truely, you aint no lawyer.............The real ones, worldwide are making a lot of money out of stuff written on the internet....Shed is right..
Tip..might be a good idea to delete your comment before the MODS have a word
Tip..might be a good idea to delete your comment before the MODS have a word