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GF - not sure, would have thought best airline for biz market + onwards conx is, errrrrrrrrrrr - LX!
I really think it is about time we imposed a Nick Clegg tax on his endless stupid ideas.
Birmingham is a mid-table base airport. It could do more to serve its local market, as we discuss ad-infinitum on here (bring on easy?).
Politicians just see the word train + plane and think they create the word "megahub". If only it was that easy!
This one (and there's another on the BHX site I can't re-find) talks of a second runway by 2014. Some Freudian slip Mr K!
Surely a runway is a runway, it is going to have opposition wherever it is built. Granted, BHX has less of a noise footprint than LHR, but the grandees of Solihull can't be dismissed as if they just aren't there. And swap a reduced anti-lobby for the double nimby fight against airport and the high speed rail needed to serve it.
I really think it is about time we imposed a Nick Clegg tax on his endless stupid ideas.
Birmingham is a mid-table base airport. It could do more to serve its local market, as we discuss ad-infinitum on here (bring on easy?).
Politicians just see the word train + plane and think they create the word "megahub". If only it was that easy!
This one (and there's another on the BHX site I can't re-find) talks of a second runway by 2014. Some Freudian slip Mr K!
Surely a runway is a runway, it is going to have opposition wherever it is built. Granted, BHX has less of a noise footprint than LHR, but the grandees of Solihull can't be dismissed as if they just aren't there. And swap a reduced anti-lobby for the double nimby fight against airport and the high speed rail needed to serve it.
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re gayfriendly: after the OLT investor AmberGold has pulled out the Polish OLT has gone bust, the German part found its money elsewhere (Panta Holding, they also own Denim Air which we currently see at BHX for BE) and is about to considerably increase its operations as of the start of the winter schedule, mainly by filling gaps that the continuing withdrawal of AB have left from e.g. FMO (overall, it seems a very adventurous schedule...one can only hope that Panta has a fair bit of spare cash).
The German OLT Express has also taken over the struggling Contact Air (struggling after LH has not extended its contract with them), and Contact Air had 2 F100 contracted to LX, so that's where OLT suddenly comes from on the BHX-ZRH sector.
The German OLT Express has also taken over the struggling Contact Air (struggling after LH has not extended its contract with them), and Contact Air had 2 F100 contracted to LX, so that's where OLT suddenly comes from on the BHX-ZRH sector.
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There has been news about re-instating flights to Chicago (more recently).
Also, Airblue are taking deliveries of A340's this month. Could they possibly be used on the route to BHX? And Wikipedia says that the route will commence during the fourth quarter of this year.
Also, Airblue are taking deliveries of A340's this month. Could they possibly be used on the route to BHX? And Wikipedia says that the route will commence during the fourth quarter of this year.
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Air Blue released a statement , saying messages they were starting BHX very soon with A340s were not true,and were put on FB by plane enthusiasts and not them.
They say they will make announcement about any new routes and where the A340s are going when contracts are signed with airports concerned.
So they are not denying they have an interest in BHX which is at least something
Justplanecrazy84.
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No more news about Qatar..they said they will not release any dates about when BHX starts until they they get a delivery schedule from Boeing on the B787s.
Think they have 60 on offer ,the first one was due for delivery last week but was delayed.
It therefore depends how far up or down BHX is on their priorities as to whether we get a start date with the first batch or have to wait for the later ones.
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Air Blue released a statement , saying messages they were starting BHX very soon with A340s were not true,and were put on FB by plane enthusiasts and not them.
They say they will make announcement about any new routes and where the A340s are going when contracts are signed with airports concerned.
So they are not denying they have an interest in BHX which is at least something
Justplanecrazy84.
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No more news about Qatar..they said they will not release any dates about when BHX starts until they they get a delivery schedule from Boeing on the B787s.
Think they have 60 on offer ,the first one was due for delivery last week but was delayed.
It therefore depends how far up or down BHX is on their priorities as to whether we get a start date with the first batch or have to wait for the later ones.
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EI from BOJ?
There's an EI377 listed on BHX arrivals from Bourgas arriving BHX 2359 (via Dublin) then an 0030 departure same flight number to Dublin. Anyone know what this is about, seems a bit confusing?
Re Air Blue and Qatar, they would both be valuable additions to the BHX list of operators but I think we may have to be patient, as always with BHX and routes being rumoured and actually happening things can take a while.....didn't QR first rumour/'announce' BHX back in 2006? This time to be fair I think it will happen, it's a case of how long we have to wait. I would be surprised if Air Blue starts with an A340, haven't people got anything better to do than hack a Twitter account to make up announcements about new wishlist operators and aircraft at BHX??
insuindi - thanks for info re OLT, have checked out their website, I see their aircraft fly in red and white so it's I guess its very similar to LX colours!
Re Air Blue and Qatar, they would both be valuable additions to the BHX list of operators but I think we may have to be patient, as always with BHX and routes being rumoured and actually happening things can take a while.....didn't QR first rumour/'announce' BHX back in 2006? This time to be fair I think it will happen, it's a case of how long we have to wait. I would be surprised if Air Blue starts with an A340, haven't people got anything better to do than hack a Twitter account to make up announcements about new wishlist operators and aircraft at BHX??
insuindi - thanks for info re OLT, have checked out their website, I see their aircraft fly in red and white so it's I guess its very similar to LX colours!
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Tankers and machinery by Watchman Radar.
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Noticed today from the golf course path that 8 lorry trailers are now sitting on the gravel infront of the watchman radar tower.Appear to be large fuel tanks and small cement silos..or similar.. two have COLAS on the side,who are doing the runway extension project in the fields.
Anyone know what they are doing their and where they have come from ..perhaps repositioned from the BHX fuel depot ??
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Noticed today from the golf course path that 8 lorry trailers are now sitting on the gravel infront of the watchman radar tower.Appear to be large fuel tanks and small cement silos..or similar.. two have COLAS on the side,who are doing the runway extension project in the fields.
Anyone know what they are doing their and where they have come from ..perhaps repositioned from the BHX fuel depot ??
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Dear oh dear, you can just feel the desperation oozing out of them!
First it's Cameron doing his Jim Hacker ("Yes Minister") impersonation, now it's Clegg laying bear for all to see his ignorance on all matters aviation. No change there, he does appear to be good at giving the impression of knowing not a lot about anything.
"Heathwick" anyone?
Is BHX running at 99+5 capacity? Of course not, so why a second rwy by 2014?
It looks like the coffee isn't going to be smelt anytime soon as they all remain fast asleep.
No disrespect to BHX but it isn't the new LHR and nor should it be so.
First it's Cameron doing his Jim Hacker ("Yes Minister") impersonation, now it's Clegg laying bear for all to see his ignorance on all matters aviation. No change there, he does appear to be good at giving the impression of knowing not a lot about anything.
"Heathwick" anyone?
Is BHX running at 99+5 capacity? Of course not, so why a second rwy by 2014?
It looks like the coffee isn't going to be smelt anytime soon as they all remain fast asleep.
No disrespect to BHX but it isn't the new LHR and nor should it be so.
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They say they will make announcement about any new routes and where the A340s are going when contracts are signed with airports concerned.
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Well if it was Hong Kong or Singapore BHX runway is too short , but Islamabad is only a tad more than 7 hours .. about the same as New York, so even a 343 should be ok.
Nigel
Well if it was Hong Kong or Singapore BHX runway is too short , but Islamabad is only a tad more than 7 hours .. about the same as New York, so even a 343 should be ok.
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So the rumours were untrue. But in terms of the A343 being able to make the journey from ISB to BHX, taking into account AI could make it to India with a B772, is the A343 a lot bigger?
Wonder if anyone has picked up on this: http://www.birminghammail.net/news/t...7319-31765446/
Would be good for BHX if Airblue would go ahead, over on Skyscraper city there's been mention that it was mentioned on Twitter aswell.
Wonder if anyone has picked up on this: http://www.birminghammail.net/news/t...7319-31765446/
Would be good for BHX if Airblue would go ahead, over on Skyscraper city there's been mention that it was mentioned on Twitter aswell.
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Of course not, so why a second rwy by 2014?
To suggest that a second runway at any time, for which some form of planning approval would still be needed, would just sail through "like a breeze" is perverse, there would by NIMBYs at both end of it, just like anywhere else. In fact, there'd be a lot more of them than there would be at Gatwick, which is still the only other option really worth debating, apart from Heathrow or do nothing.
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Re runway work, had a look today ,not much to look at.
They have 3 dumper trucks a few diggers a bulldozer and a roller.They are flattening the new route for the A45 diversion .The earth is then being piled into long bunds.
Interestingly they are restoring the old sports playing field social club and reseeding the grass,and put a fence around the slightly reduced grass area.
The never ending archaeological dig continues with large shallow areas being carefully removed by small dumper trucks and the area left sifted by hand.
Looks like a scene from the battle of the somme at the moment.
Nigel
Re runway work, had a look today ,not much to look at.
They have 3 dumper trucks a few diggers a bulldozer and a roller.They are flattening the new route for the A45 diversion .The earth is then being piled into long bunds.
Interestingly they are restoring the old sports playing field social club and reseeding the grass,and put a fence around the slightly reduced grass area.
The never ending archaeological dig continues with large shallow areas being carefully removed by small dumper trucks and the area left sifted by hand.
Looks like a scene from the battle of the somme at the moment.
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Winter 2012/3
insuindi
Thank you for the update on OLT, Helvetic F100 has just landed without flaps. They seem to have two aircraft that make regular appearances in AV Herald!
tom775257
Cheers for heads-up re Malta, no other changes in the winter schedule that I noticed so still only one FUE & LPA and 2 x TFS.
GF
Correct the colourful CEO of Qatar announced to the world about BHX-DOH back in 2006 and ABTN picked up on it and published an article, which is fair enough as you do expect the CEO to know his new routes. Surely lightening can't strike twice?
EI BOJ I assume same as the Athens last week and is fuel as they were both pre-planned so not medical or anything else like that. Perhaps they knew they were going to be late and couldn't arrange fuel to be available on arrival.
easyjet
Geneva now bookable to 14 April and is daily for the last two weeks which of course will cover Easter. Belfast is bookable until the end of June similar times.
Brussels
Still showing no flybe aircraft for winter, which is odd. The night-stop is a SN RJ100 as with three other flights and a Tyrolean Q400. This is quite a seat increase to now. I have seen some reports of the Q400 fully booked on the first departure in the early part of the week but seems drastic to upgrade as I would imagine 78 seats is enough most days.
Air France
The A319 upgrade from the CRJX on the 19.00 flight is still showing.
SAS
The aircraft types on the Stockholm keep changing so that should provide some interest. I have seen the 736, 73W, 738 and MD81 listed at times. CPH in general is a mix of MD81's and CRJ9's in the morning and CRJ9's in the evening with Airbus listed for the morning next summer. There is no Saturday morning CPH this winter.
Thomas Cook Summer 2013
A big change but alas not to the base downgrade with just two based. However a lot of destinations have reappeared but using Monarch schedule(HER, FUE, LEI ACE etc). The only interesting one is new to 2013 Malta with a based aircraft on a Tuesday as both TCX aircraft are or were busy that day.
Pete
Thank you for the update on OLT, Helvetic F100 has just landed without flaps. They seem to have two aircraft that make regular appearances in AV Herald!
tom775257
Cheers for heads-up re Malta, no other changes in the winter schedule that I noticed so still only one FUE & LPA and 2 x TFS.
GF
Correct the colourful CEO of Qatar announced to the world about BHX-DOH back in 2006 and ABTN picked up on it and published an article, which is fair enough as you do expect the CEO to know his new routes. Surely lightening can't strike twice?
EI BOJ I assume same as the Athens last week and is fuel as they were both pre-planned so not medical or anything else like that. Perhaps they knew they were going to be late and couldn't arrange fuel to be available on arrival.
easyjet
Geneva now bookable to 14 April and is daily for the last two weeks which of course will cover Easter. Belfast is bookable until the end of June similar times.
Brussels
Still showing no flybe aircraft for winter, which is odd. The night-stop is a SN RJ100 as with three other flights and a Tyrolean Q400. This is quite a seat increase to now. I have seen some reports of the Q400 fully booked on the first departure in the early part of the week but seems drastic to upgrade as I would imagine 78 seats is enough most days.
Air France
The A319 upgrade from the CRJX on the 19.00 flight is still showing.
SAS
The aircraft types on the Stockholm keep changing so that should provide some interest. I have seen the 736, 73W, 738 and MD81 listed at times. CPH in general is a mix of MD81's and CRJ9's in the morning and CRJ9's in the evening with Airbus listed for the morning next summer. There is no Saturday morning CPH this winter.
Thomas Cook Summer 2013
A big change but alas not to the base downgrade with just two based. However a lot of destinations have reappeared but using Monarch schedule(HER, FUE, LEI ACE etc). The only interesting one is new to 2013 Malta with a based aircraft on a Tuesday as both TCX aircraft are or were busy that day.
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Thomas Cook
OltonPete, TCX will now be operating 3 based aircraft from BHX , for summer '13.
This was 'confirmed' mid-August time,from within the company.
best regards
Scorchio.
This was 'confirmed' mid-August time,from within the company.
best regards
Scorchio.