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Chinapattern wrote Have TCX dropped Banjul this winter?
The flight is bookable on Thomascook and Gambia Experience website, first available date is showing as Tuesday 13/11/2012.
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The flight is bookable on Thomascook and Gambia Experience website, first available date is showing as Tuesday 13/11/2012.
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FlyboyUK - cheers
ericlday - Yes that would be good but are we sure FR pay anything, the rumours about last year indicated it was somewhere between nothing and minimal but all hearsay
SAS - any loads for the first ARN flight?
chinapattern - I understand Banjul survived the cull although to be fair the second aircraft didn't do much last winter and they are using Monarch to TFS and LPA, it is just a shame that Monarch have reduced their flights to these destinations compared to last winter.
Pete
ericlday - Yes that would be good but are we sure FR pay anything, the rumours about last year indicated it was somewhere between nothing and minimal but all hearsay
SAS - any loads for the first ARN flight?
chinapattern - I understand Banjul survived the cull although to be fair the second aircraft didn't do much last winter and they are using Monarch to TFS and LPA, it is just a shame that Monarch have reduced their flights to these destinations compared to last winter.
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I did think that with TCX's severe reduction this winter Banjul would have been cut; good to see this flight survive as it shows that there is demand for charter traffic beyond the Canaries and Alicante.
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New routes or total lack of them
Just wondered why other airfields up and down the country are announcing new routes and yet bhx is again being left behind.. Yeah we have had a few extras after baby were closed down but alas nothing of any significance since.
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New routes or total lack of them
I am guessing that Ryanair would have approached BHX as well as MAG (MAN and EMA) and Peel (LPL) and in all probability BHX said "no deal"! BHX will be the winners in the long run - so will all it's passengers who will continue to have real choice, and not be paying the bills that Ryanair doesn't want to pay.
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I whole heartedly agree! 
If these new routes are just more Ryanair, then I'm sorry EMA, LPL and MAN are welcome to them. BHX has increased frequencies from Turkish, a new route from SAS (Stockholm), new routes Scheduled routes from Monarch.
I am guessing that Ryanair would have approached BHX as well as MAG (MAN and EMA) and Peel (LPL) and in all probability BHX said "no deal"! BHX will be the winners in the long run - so will all it's passengers who will continue to have real choice, and not be paying the bills that Ryanair doesn't want to pay.
I am guessing that Ryanair would have approached BHX as well as MAG (MAN and EMA) and Peel (LPL) and in all probability BHX said "no deal"! BHX will be the winners in the long run - so will all it's passengers who will continue to have real choice, and not be paying the bills that Ryanair doesn't want to pay.
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Hi Andrew re Ryan Air, I was sort of with you until you got to the bit about BHX telling them "No deal"
Im told BHX are to accept 13 Ryan Air park ups this winter, 4 have already arrived. BHX are letting them park for free in the hope of "continuing to have a good working relationship with them"
Both EMA and MAN told Ryan Air they would have to pay a full park up fee,so Ryan Air took up BHX free offer.
So has our over generous offer helped us..er nope.. Ryan Air have just announced expansion at EMA and MAN and nothing at BHX.
Not only will we be getting no money from them.. 13 planes will block out the remotes and cancel out most chances of getting any fee paying diverts as there will be nowhere to park them.
"Barrell" and "over" come to mind !!
Nigel
Hi Andrew re Ryan Air, I was sort of with you until you got to the bit about BHX telling them "No deal"
Im told BHX are to accept 13 Ryan Air park ups this winter, 4 have already arrived. BHX are letting them park for free in the hope of "continuing to have a good working relationship with them"
Both EMA and MAN told Ryan Air they would have to pay a full park up fee,so Ryan Air took up BHX free offer.
So has our over generous offer helped us..er nope.. Ryan Air have just announced expansion at EMA and MAN and nothing at BHX.
Not only will we be getting no money from them.. 13 planes will block out the remotes and cancel out most chances of getting any fee paying diverts as there will be nowhere to park them.
"Barrell" and "over" come to mind !!
Nigel
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Does anyone know what the parking deal actually is - apart from of course the airline, and the airport management?
It would surprise me if anyone working for the airport company would voluntarily divulge such information in these forums, as a tap on the shoulder and a brown envelope containing their P45 would surely follow pretty swiftly.
I would suggest therefore that the "fact" that Ryanair are getting free parking is rather more conjecture than actual fact. If anyone wishes to prove me wrong, PM me - for heavens sake don't put it on these pages!
BHX are letting them park for free in the hope of "continuing to have a good working relationship with them
It would surprise me if anyone working for the airport company would voluntarily divulge such information in these forums, as a tap on the shoulder and a brown envelope containing their P45 would surely follow pretty swiftly.
I would suggest therefore that the "fact" that Ryanair are getting free parking is rather more conjecture than actual fact. If anyone wishes to prove me wrong, PM me - for heavens sake don't put it on these pages!
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Birmingham Airport responded to the consultation on the Government’s Draft Aviation Policy Framework on Wednesday 31st October. It has called on the Government to pursue a set of short-term aviation policies designed to make the best use of existing capacity at UK airports.
• Birmingham Airport has argued that aviation can boost UK manufacturing and rebalance the economy.
• Existing evidence shows that the Midlands has a competitive advantage within the UK economy for manufacturing exports.
• Businesses in the catchment area consider the lack of long-haul connectivity from the region to be restricting their growth.
Birmingham Airport has called on the Government to support the Midlands economy, by implementing four key policies:1. Implement a differential tax regime at airports with spare capacity
2. Implement a congestion charge at congested airports
3. Create and market a network of national airports
4. Unilaterally liberalise air service arrangements from this network of national airportsThese recommendations are proportionate to the current level of supply-side intervention in the market and would incentivise airlines to establish new routes from UK airports instead of moving to foreign hubs.Paul Kehoe, Chief Executive of Birmingham Airport, said: “This submission is taking the Government for its word. If it is serious about making the best use of existing capacity at UK airports, it needs to balance capacity restrictions on airports in the South East with policies that encourage airlines to use other UK airports. This will help rebalance the economy away from a dependence on financial services and the South East as the sole engines of growth. “Business leaders in the Midlands are calling out for greater long-haul connectivity from Birmingham Airport. They know that the economic fruit of aviation doesn’t fall far from the tree. It is time for the Government to branch out and pursue policies that unlock the potential of UK manufacturing.”Birmingham Airport’s full submission can be found here http://www.westbournecoms.com/wp-con...submission.pdf
• Birmingham Airport has argued that aviation can boost UK manufacturing and rebalance the economy.
• Existing evidence shows that the Midlands has a competitive advantage within the UK economy for manufacturing exports.
• Businesses in the catchment area consider the lack of long-haul connectivity from the region to be restricting their growth.
Birmingham Airport has called on the Government to support the Midlands economy, by implementing four key policies:1. Implement a differential tax regime at airports with spare capacity
2. Implement a congestion charge at congested airports
3. Create and market a network of national airports
4. Unilaterally liberalise air service arrangements from this network of national airportsThese recommendations are proportionate to the current level of supply-side intervention in the market and would incentivise airlines to establish new routes from UK airports instead of moving to foreign hubs.Paul Kehoe, Chief Executive of Birmingham Airport, said: “This submission is taking the Government for its word. If it is serious about making the best use of existing capacity at UK airports, it needs to balance capacity restrictions on airports in the South East with policies that encourage airlines to use other UK airports. This will help rebalance the economy away from a dependence on financial services and the South East as the sole engines of growth. “Business leaders in the Midlands are calling out for greater long-haul connectivity from Birmingham Airport. They know that the economic fruit of aviation doesn’t fall far from the tree. It is time for the Government to branch out and pursue policies that unlock the potential of UK manufacturing.”Birmingham Airport’s full submission can be found here http://www.westbournecoms.com/wp-con...submission.pdf
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Birmingham Airport has called on the Government to support the Midlands economy, by implementing four key policies:1. Implement a differential tax regime at airports with spare capacity
2. Implement a congestion charge at congested airports
2. Implement a congestion charge at congested airports
3. Create and market a network of national airports
4. Unilaterally liberalise air service arrangements from this network of national airports.
4. Unilaterally liberalise air service arrangements from this network of national airports.
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BHX route news
From Summer 2012 Birmingham-Berlin will see an upgrade on weekdays to an A320 (319 at weekends) Lufthansa S13 European Operation Changes as of 01NOV12 | Airline Route – Worldwide Airline Route Updates
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Lufthansa S13 European Operation Changes as of 01NOV12 | Airline Route – Worldwide Airline Route UpdatesDaza
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Extra FR aircraft everywhere,except BHX
I see the Ryanair forum is full of extra aircraft for Liverpool,Manchester and East Midlands (and others)
One presumes that BHX management were not prepared to cough up?
One presumes that BHX management were not prepared to cough up?