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Munich is a bit of a surprise at four weekly.
Nothing much changed as yet on existing routes as far as I can see just
need to see the frequency for Barcelona.
I assume the two extra aircraft announced are for winter are just the extra
two staying from this summer. Last winter was three operational and this
winter needed four and I assume that it will now be six.
This covers the Baby losses as they only operated two/three aircraft a day
last winter ranging from two flights to six. Even if there are less frequencies there is a minimum of 25 seats extra per sector with the 174 seat A320.
Hopefully Monarch will take some Baby FD & CC as well.
Nothing much changed as yet on existing routes as far as I can see just
need to see the frequency for Barcelona.
I assume the two extra aircraft announced are for winter are just the extra
two staying from this summer. Last winter was three operational and this
winter needed four and I assume that it will now be six.
This covers the Baby losses as they only operated two/three aircraft a day
last winter ranging from two flights to six. Even if there are less frequencies there is a minimum of 25 seats extra per sector with the 174 seat A320.
Hopefully Monarch will take some Baby FD & CC as well.
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It has been rumoured that the potential contenders for MON are BHX, LBA, EMA and CWL
Rumoured/announced (haven't had time to check) are LBA-MUC and LBA-GNB as ZB schedules - could these be W pattern flights with BHX based a/c? MUC frequency as stated here ex BHX is odd but LH often quite expensive on this route and ZB are continuing MXP this winter at a similar type of frequency so there must be a demand for price conscious (as opposed to frequency and less cost conscious) travellers on these type of city routes from BHX. FNC and SSH no surprise and welcome additions if true. I think ZB have real faith in BHX and wouldn't be surprised with more routes next summer, although think there is more yet to be announced from EMA depending on a/c availability.
Rumoured/announced (haven't had time to check) are LBA-MUC and LBA-GNB as ZB schedules - could these be W pattern flights with BHX based a/c? MUC frequency as stated here ex BHX is odd but LH often quite expensive on this route and ZB are continuing MXP this winter at a similar type of frequency so there must be a demand for price conscious (as opposed to frequency and less cost conscious) travellers on these type of city routes from BHX. FNC and SSH no surprise and welcome additions if true. I think ZB have real faith in BHX and wouldn't be surprised with more routes next summer, although think there is more yet to be announced from EMA depending on a/c availability.
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Surprised to see Munich added to the network, makes me wonder if the closure of bmibaby had been announced earlier they might have looked at Prague. Guess they still might. What equipment with SSH be? Can the A321's do it or might we see something bigger drop in to do the flight?
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Route announcements/new destinations across the ZB bases on Tuesday - although I assume those on the Cosmos site (FNC, GNB, SSH, MUC) are the new routes for BHX and that EMA will see more in addition to those announced this week. I guess BHX-BCN will also be loaded into to the booking engine. There could still be more to come from ZB from BHX but all depends on a/c availability in the end, in a report in Travel Weekly their Chief Exec states that BHX will be a major base for growth in the next few years (although those comments would have been made before the WW news this week)
Munich will presumably be a winter (ski) destination, served mainly at weekends.
Monarch generally don't serve destinations daily, some of their routes are initially run once a week, building gradually.
A recent announcement talked of a plan to increase the fleet from c30 aircraft to c40, so presumably these announcements (not necessarily East Mids) are steps in this direction.
Monarch generally don't serve destinations daily, some of their routes are initially run once a week, building gradually.
A recent announcement talked of a plan to increase the fleet from c30 aircraft to c40, so presumably these announcements (not necessarily East Mids) are steps in this direction.
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Monarch BHX base is currently 6 aircraft and the original winter schedule required just 4 aircraft but there is now a need for 5 or 6 and BHX itself stated two extra will be based. I assume from this the two aircraft that were to lay-over in winter will not (subject to planned maintenance) and I suspect the main issue will be crewing the flights.
LGS6753 - Munich starts late September per the Cosmos booking engine although the route is not officially launched, so I realise this could change.
flybe - I have received an e-mail this morning stating more jets will be put on the BHX-BHD and option to transfer your baby booking is being worked on. They are also encouraging passengers to book BHX-EDI & GLA and then change it free of charge if required to East Midlands again pending on bringing forward the EMA flights.
Monarch BHX base is currently 6 aircraft and the original winter schedule required just 4 aircraft but there is now a need for 5 or 6 and BHX itself stated two extra will be based. I assume from this the two aircraft that were to lay-over in winter will not (subject to planned maintenance) and I suspect the main issue will be crewing the flights.
LGS6753 - Munich starts late September per the Cosmos booking engine although the route is not officially launched, so I realise this could change.
flybe - I have received an e-mail this morning stating more jets will be put on the BHX-BHD and option to transfer your baby booking is being worked on. They are also encouraging passengers to book BHX-EDI & GLA and then change it free of charge if required to East Midlands again pending on bringing forward the EMA flights.
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I can see Lisbon potentially going unserved again - although wouldn't surprise me to see Monarch take the route up in Summer 2013. Being optimistic it looks like Wizz Air will swoop in for Prague from either Birmingham or East Midlands (Most Probable) - Also Birmingham to Knock to be taken up by Aer Lingus Regional effective 10th June with a single daily service, Aer Lingus Regional Birmingham/Dublin flight cancelled effective 9th June passengers being transferred onto mainline Aer Lingus flights.
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I agree with the last post LIS and PRG are the least likely routes to be replaced at BHX.
Hopefully NCE will be picked up as historically this route has done well ex BHX I remember large Club Class loads when BA operated the 1-11 on the route on Summer weekends. Those were the days!
Monarch will cover the Sun routes, FCO and BCN. Hopefully there wont be great passenger losses ex BHX
My thoughts are with the WW employees lets hope MON/Jet2/Flybe will take on many of the staff.
Hopefully NCE will be picked up as historically this route has done well ex BHX I remember large Club Class loads when BA operated the 1-11 on the route on Summer weekends. Those were the days!
Monarch will cover the Sun routes, FCO and BCN. Hopefully there wont be great passenger losses ex BHX
My thoughts are with the WW employees lets hope MON/Jet2/Flybe will take on many of the staff.
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Ryanair have little interest in developing BHX any further. They are probably at the end of their zero charges from BHX and haven't been able to bully BHX into letting them have the concessions continued. Im surprised they haven't done a staged pullout to reduce fees as they are doing at EDI.
It's been suggested elsewhere on this forum that with the announcement of IAG's Q1 results that they will also announce a shake up of routes that BMI/BMED operated. It also suggests that BA will operate a B777 direct flight to ATQ. This surely will have an impact on any proposed flights from BHX.
Mr Kehoe have you missed yet another opportunity?
Mr Kehoe have you missed yet another opportunity?
I'm struggling to understand how Mr. Kehoe could be blamed for "missing an opportunity" where a BA route to Amritsar is concerned.
"London Airways" has no interest in servicing international destinations unless they are from LHR or LGW. Air India is in a financial mess, as are Kingfisher so where does an operator on BHX / ATQ come from/
BHX / ATQ is a low yield VFR route, in all honesty probably best serviced by quasi charter operations, and carriers such as Turkmenistan. Unfortunately, with the exception of Turkmen. these quasi charter ops have a pretty poor service or longevity record.
"London Airways" has no interest in servicing international destinations unless they are from LHR or LGW. Air India is in a financial mess, as are Kingfisher so where does an operator on BHX / ATQ come from/
BHX / ATQ is a low yield VFR route, in all honesty probably best serviced by quasi charter operations, and carriers such as Turkmenistan. Unfortunately, with the exception of Turkmen. these quasi charter ops have a pretty poor service or longevity record.
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Not that many of you don't already know but flights now oficcially bookable with ZB from BHX to SSH, FNC, MUC and GNB this winter. Wonder if they will work a bit harder next time to keep new routes hush hush till official launch next time there are route announcements!
I hope somene picks up BHX-NCE as this seems to have historically done well, LIS and PRG don't seem to be attracting any interest so far.
Be interesting to see what lies ahead for next summer for ZB routes from BHX, maybe more Italian routes, PSA and NAP spring to mind, further afield maybe Morocco and Tunisia?
I hope somene picks up BHX-NCE as this seems to have historically done well, LIS and PRG don't seem to be attracting any interest so far.
Be interesting to see what lies ahead for next summer for ZB routes from BHX, maybe more Italian routes, PSA and NAP spring to mind, further afield maybe Morocco and Tunisia?
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Gayfriendly, I understand that Monarch actually were working quite hard to keep things quiet. Unfortunately their in-house tour operator wasn't working quite so hard........
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Just seen that Iberia Express are testing the waters at EDI with twice weekly A320 flights Jul-Aug. A possibility for BHX-MAD in the (I hope not too distant)future?
Am flying IB MAN-MAD-MAN next Fri/Mon (tried my best to go from BHX but cheapest fares were around £300 return with AF/KL
) IB were half that 
Will be interesting to see how busy the flights are, also have never flown IB before either!
Am flying IB MAN-MAD-MAN next Fri/Mon (tried my best to go from BHX but cheapest fares were around £300 return with AF/KL
) IB were half that Will be interesting to see how busy the flights are, also have never flown IB before either!
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any advice???
I'm travelling internally in Brazil in a couple of weeks time and have to transfer from Rio de Janeiro International Airport to Rio's Santos Dumont airport. Has anyone had to make the same switch and if so, any advice, tips etc....
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I'm travelling internally in Brazil in a couple of weeks time and have to transfer from Rio de Janeiro International Airport to Rio's Santos Dumont airport. Has anyone had to make the same switch and if so, any advice, tips etc....
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....Only that my journey starts at BHX with KLM and travelling internally into Brazil might be a route other businessmen take and may have experience to pass on.