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Monarch have no plans to add 3rd party aircraft into its fleet to operate flights as it did last year.
However Monarch is looking at the possibility of adding 3rd party a/c as standby units, because of the insane EU regulations.
However Monarch is looking at the possibility of adding 3rd party a/c as standby units, because of the insane EU regulations.
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Certainly sounds fluid.
The site quoted and jethro's usually share information I believe but as you say things are fluid and there might some confusion.
I assume with the seat-maps, as you can book your seat in advance then the flights will be sold as A320's and if at a later date they are changed to the 321 you will get an e-mail advising of the change?
Even with all the changes I am shocked at the scale of the reduction in the April schedule compared to 2012. Although I must admit the Gatwick April schedule it not that great so maybe more to do with an early Easter than lack of new aircraft.
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Certainly sounds fluid.
The site quoted and jethro's usually share information I believe but as you say things are fluid and there might some confusion.
I assume with the seat-maps, as you can book your seat in advance then the flights will be sold as A320's and if at a later date they are changed to the 321 you will get an e-mail advising of the change?
Even with all the changes I am shocked at the scale of the reduction in the April schedule compared to 2012. Although I must admit the Gatwick April schedule it not that great so maybe more to do with an early Easter than lack of new aircraft.
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My guess is the seat plans are shown as planned, i.e. A321 and will be adjusted if A320s have to be used.
Only G-ZBAA is planned to be delivered prior to Easter, it might not be in service in time for Easter, however if l was a betting man l would say it will just make it in time.
Only G-ZBAA is planned to be delivered prior to Easter, it might not be in service in time for Easter, however if l was a betting man l would say it will just make it in time.
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Interesting thought. Would be nice to see them at BHX but think they have to consolidate what they have got first before expanding, having said that BRS-HAM and FRA being launched soon. Many seem to think they won't survive unless they start code sharing with Star Alliance and get a better website......
Perhaps BHX-LYS (they already fly to LYS from MAN), maybe also GOT and RTM could be possibilities?
There is some sort of big announcement regarding major developments at BMIR according to an insider on that thread however we all know what PPRUNE big announcement rumours normally amount to!!!
Perhaps BHX-LYS (they already fly to LYS from MAN), maybe also GOT and RTM could be possibilities?
There is some sort of big announcement regarding major developments at BMIR according to an insider on that thread however we all know what PPRUNE big announcement rumours normally amount to!!!
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Sunday Diversions
I was on last night's Swiss from ZRH which was diverted to MAN. The TXL was also diverted to MAN and, I think, was the 319 parked next to us on a remote stand. When we got to BHX at 22:00 the arrival screens were showing the TXL as having arrived at 21:30. Does anyone know if it refuelled at MAN and then flew down to BHX?
PS took the ground-staff at MAN 35mins to organise a bus to the terminal. However, once in the terminal they had people waiting to escort us to the coaches which were already there.
PS took the ground-staff at MAN 35mins to organise a bus to the terminal. However, once in the terminal they had people waiting to escort us to the coaches which were already there.
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Bob, yes the TXL-BHX did arrive BHX around 21.35 having diverted to MAN first for fuel, a friend of mine was on it.
BHX and its staff have all done a great job trying to keep things going in very adverse conditions
The snow yesterday was far heavier and lasted for much longer than I saw forecast on the BBC, we have now got 6-7 inches in Leamington. No more snow forecast today or tomorrow thank goodness.
BHX and its staff have all done a great job trying to keep things going in very adverse conditions
The snow yesterday was far heavier and lasted for much longer than I saw forecast on the BBC, we have now got 6-7 inches in Leamington. No more snow forecast today or tomorrow thank goodness.
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Diversions
Yes they tend to list them on arrivals board if notified - FR Wroclaw and Dublin-EMA are both on the BHX arrivals screen. However I heard that SK CPH-MAN and TK IST-MAN were diverting into Brum aswell but these are not listed (perhaps they didn't in the end)
Info regarding diversions changes minute by minute and often the info is only passed on to BHX at the last minute making it difficult to list diversions on the website much in advance of them actually arriving. It also depends on exactly what info the relevant handling agent wishes to divulge to the public...
Info regarding diversions changes minute by minute and often the info is only passed on to BHX at the last minute making it difficult to list diversions on the website much in advance of them actually arriving. It also depends on exactly what info the relevant handling agent wishes to divulge to the public...
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I stand corrected: BA1382 and SK2547 both listed on departures screens departing for MAN at around 11.50 so must have been refuels only. No sign of TK though.
I forgot to mention that inbound diversions are normally only listed on arrivals screens if it has been decided that pax are going to deplane at BHX
I forgot to mention that inbound diversions are normally only listed on arrivals screens if it has been decided that pax are going to deplane at BHX
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Not quite certain what BMIR (without any codeshares or alliance membership) could bring to the table at BHX.
All the domestics are well covered by FlyBe, and the principal European business routes are covered by the majors.
OK you could suggest thinner routes, such as Warsaw, Oslo, Vienna etc, but there's probably not enough point to point business to sustain these routes, you need connections and alliances, and the ER145 doesn't lend itself to the leisure market.
Not quite certain what BMIR (without any codeshares or alliance membership) could bring to the table at BHX.
All the domestics are well covered by FlyBe, and the principal European business routes are covered by the majors.
OK you could suggest thinner routes, such as Warsaw, Oslo, Vienna etc, but there's probably not enough point to point business to sustain these routes, you need connections and alliances, and the ER145 doesn't lend itself to the leisure market.
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Gayfriendly re Diversions.
TK did arrive..full list;
TC-JHL 737-800 Turkish Airlines MAN snow div
G-EUYJ A320 British Airways MAN " "
LN-RPU B737-600 SAS MAN " "
D-ACNT CR9 Luftansa MAN " "
OY-SRJ B767F Star EMA snow div
OY-SRK B767F Star EMA " "
EI-DCI B737-800 Ryan Air EMA " "
EI- DWP B737-800 Ryan Air EMA " "
Our own Turkish Airlines flight produced TC-JYD 737-900 on a F/V
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TK did arrive..full list;
TC-JHL 737-800 Turkish Airlines MAN snow div
G-EUYJ A320 British Airways MAN " "
LN-RPU B737-600 SAS MAN " "
D-ACNT CR9 Luftansa MAN " "
OY-SRJ B767F Star EMA snow div
OY-SRK B767F Star EMA " "
EI-DCI B737-800 Ryan Air EMA " "
EI- DWP B737-800 Ryan Air EMA " "
Our own Turkish Airlines flight produced TC-JYD 737-900 on a F/V
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Thanks Nigel for the list 
Might recoup a few of the lost pax from Fri and Sun snow closures although quite a few were just splash and dash I think
I remember in 2010 I was flying out with TK to IST we got out just before the runway was shut for snow at about 1700hrs (I think it was a Sunday) but before boarding I remember seeing a PK 777, QR A330 and an EK 777 (one in addition to the scheduled BHX one) plus a number of additional short haul flights all parked up after diverting in from MAN, it was quite an impressive sight
Might recoup a few of the lost pax from Fri and Sun snow closures although quite a few were just splash and dash I think
I remember in 2010 I was flying out with TK to IST we got out just before the runway was shut for snow at about 1700hrs (I think it was a Sunday) but before boarding I remember seeing a PK 777, QR A330 and an EK 777 (one in addition to the scheduled BHX one) plus a number of additional short haul flights all parked up after diverting in from MAN, it was quite an impressive sight
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Gayfriendly;
Looks like MAN waited to get all their lucrative long hauls in before closing for a sweep.
Still nice to see some divs..quite astonishing that we have had no LHR BA long hauls in for 2 years.. Seems new tactic of cancelling short hauls in advance to get the more lucrative long hauls in
Nigel
Looks like MAN waited to get all their lucrative long hauls in before closing for a sweep.
Still nice to see some divs..quite astonishing that we have had no LHR BA long hauls in for 2 years.. Seems new tactic of cancelling short hauls in advance to get the more lucrative long hauls in
Nigel
