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Its now confirmed that 1 A319 will be based at LGW and the other based at DUB. Schedules now corrected on website.
Boston will increase from 11 weekly to 2 daily from late March until mid June (then back to 13 weekly). The afternoon 14.15 flight moves to 16.15 and the morning flight will moved from 11.00 to 11.45. MCO reduces to 2 weekly but returns to 3 from mid June for peak summer. It reduced earlier this year also.
Boston will increase from 11 weekly to 2 daily from late March until mid June (then back to 13 weekly). The afternoon 14.15 flight moves to 16.15 and the morning flight will moved from 11.00 to 11.45. MCO reduces to 2 weekly but returns to 3 from mid June for peak summer. It reduced earlier this year also.
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The BOS time change in the afternoon is a suprise but its good to see USPC being busy in the afternoon with two flights at 15.45 and one at 16.15. Does the BOS changes have anyting to do with Ethiad. There flight arrives at around 14.30 and could allow passengers connect to BOS, JFK and ORD. I know its nothing to do with the A330 on the AGP flights in summer as the times have being changed to a 06.50 departure and arrival at DUB at 14.00 before going to JFK.
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2 at BHD (along with one A320), one each at LGW and DUB would make up four, which is the number in the EI fleet for summer 2013 currently?
I would have thought that the A319 would have been abetted aircraft for Cork over the winter, rather than the summer. Most summer flights are firstly heavily loaded to traditional summer sun spots.
I would have thought that the A319 would have been abetted aircraft for Cork over the winter, rather than the summer. Most summer flights are firstly heavily loaded to traditional summer sun spots.
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Here are some videos about EI for those of you interested!
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EI at BHD
It will be interesting to see the number on EI flights to LHR and LGW from end of this month. I have always believed EI made wrong choice moving to BHD
As I have previously posted on other threads EZY has 32K pax per month and BE 24K pax per month on average to LGW. Assuming there will be little change in which London airport EI would have to "pinch" one third of BE passengers and one quarter of EZY pax, and even with that it would only give them 16kpax per month. I am sure someone can work out the load factors on this
EZY now going a fifth flight to LGW from 20th Dec and BE will fight to maintain market share
Regarding LHR BA numbers are on the up and EI are going down, see caa stats
however I would be keen to hear from someone at EI who knows about the advanced bookings, either post here on on BFS/BHD thread
As I have previously posted on other threads EZY has 32K pax per month and BE 24K pax per month on average to LGW. Assuming there will be little change in which London airport EI would have to "pinch" one third of BE passengers and one quarter of EZY pax, and even with that it would only give them 16kpax per month. I am sure someone can work out the load factors on this
EZY now going a fifth flight to LGW from 20th Dec and BE will fight to maintain market share
Regarding LHR BA numbers are on the up and EI are going down, see caa stats
however I would be keen to hear from someone at EI who knows about the advanced bookings, either post here on on BFS/BHD thread
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Having seen the recent announcement by UA to launch ORD-SNN flights, I couldn't help but think Aer Lingus may have missed the boat. Not specifically in relation to the ORD-SNN route, but in their refusal thus far to expand their long-haul network and instead focus on building code shares with other airlines, all the while other carriers are expanding their long-haul network from Ireland. And this has been confirmed by a report in the Sunday Times which is reporting that Transport Minister Leo Varadkar has offered United Airlines a 5 year deal on landing charges at Dublin (no charges for first 2 years) for a new route to the US West Coast.
IMO Aer Lingus need to expand long-haul now or they will end up being sidelined by US carriers. I'm not the first person to make this observation and I won't be the last, and Aer Lingus themselves have already hinted at a possible expansion in 2013, but this needs to be brought forward if they are to capitalise on any opportunities before other airlines move in and do so.
Article: Sunday Times - Ireland - Varadkar woos United for Dublin-California flights
IMO Aer Lingus need to expand long-haul now or they will end up being sidelined by US carriers. I'm not the first person to make this observation and I won't be the last, and Aer Lingus themselves have already hinted at a possible expansion in 2013, but this needs to be brought forward if they are to capitalise on any opportunities before other airlines move in and do so.
Article: Sunday Times - Ireland - Varadkar woos United for Dublin-California flights
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Aer Lingus themselves have already hinted at a possible expansion in 2013, but this needs to be brought forward if they are to capitalise on any opportunities before other airlines move in and do so.
The 5 year deal at DUB is very intresting but I don't think it will be enough. If the route was partly subsized for 2 years but a contract for UA have to honner the service for 5 years then it could happen, but UA suprised use with SNN-ORD so anything is possible..UA must be paying very little to the DAA as IAD is on reduced charges to.
UA/EI agreement. UA sell flights form DUB-JFK,BOS,ORD,MCO operated by EU but EI don't sell flights from DUB-EWR or IAD. Any reason for this and if both teamed up for LAX/SFO I think it could benefit both carriers.
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Varadkar has offered United Airlines a 5 year deal on landing charges at Dublin (no charges for first 2 years) for a new route to the US West Coast
And what deal is he offering Ireland's largest airline to bring in more pax from other places which they are more than capable of doing with such a large fleet?
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Because Aer Lingus have made it quiet clear they will not restart west coast service.
because fr would want it free for the full 5 years and once they are up they will try and black mail DOT and pull aircraft out of here if they don't get for another 5 years. I am also almost sure that Aer Lingus is Irelands largerst airline now..
And what deal is he offering Ireland's largest airline to bring in more pax from other places which they are more than capable of doing with such a large fleet?
And this has been confirmed by a report in the Sunday Times which is reporting that Transport Minister Leo Varadkar has offered United Airlines a 5 year deal on landing charges at Dublin (no charges for first 2 years) for a new route to the US West Coast.
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In a new FR/EI takeover package, Ryanair has come up with a proposal to move Aer Lingus to Brussels (National Airport, not Charleroi).
Ryanair to base Aer Lingus in Brussels if bid succeeds - www.travelweekly.co.uk
Ryanair to base Aer Lingus in Brussels if bid succeeds - www.travelweekly.co.uk
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davidjohnson6: SSK - seems utterly bizarre...
FR is increasing the frequency of its Brussels (Charleroi) service and promoting it as ideal for the increased traffic arising from the Irish Presidency of the EU next year – an EU-friendly move shuttling Eurocrats around at minimal expense to the taxpayer. It’s just a short step from there to providing a similar service over a wider range of EU destinations, at the same time profiting from Brussels Airlines’ chronic weakness (watch this space …)
SSK - I understand what MOL is trying to do, but it seems as if FR are trying to separate competition rules from credible economic reality.
The staff are heavily Ireland centric. The brand is Ireland centric. The customer base is Ireland centric. Existing operations are Ireland centric. Would the Irish Govt or EU really swallow turning EI into a Belgian-based carrier just because it saves a bit of cash on the EU budget ?
The staff are heavily Ireland centric. The brand is Ireland centric. The customer base is Ireland centric. Existing operations are Ireland centric. Would the Irish Govt or EU really swallow turning EI into a Belgian-based carrier just because it saves a bit of cash on the EU budget ?
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He insisted Ryanair would maintain the Aer Lingus brand and reposition it
between Ryanair and easyJet, cutting fares on short-haul routes and revamping
business class on long haul.
So folk living in Ireland, look forward to a future of FR only on mostly all of the routes left excluding the ones that are handed to EU national airlines (deliberatly avoiding the phrase Flag Carrier).
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Aer Lingus and Ryanair
Reading all the posts one would think the free market had never been heard of and Aer Lingus has a God given right to exist and continue to exist. While EI is doing well at present and has a good cash reserve, how many times in the last 20 years has it been close to the wall? How many other airline mergers, take overs and closures have their been in that time? Is it not understood by experts that consolidation is the only sensible way forward. EI, as a small fringe player, is increasingly up against the likes of United on the Atlantic and BA in Europe - can it compete given its small scale?
Why not try Brussels - it has tried lots of other places such as Manchester (even basing an A330 to fly Man-Dub-USA), Gatwick, Aldergrove. None of them worked but maybe Brussels will.
Ryanair has the cash and the passenger numbers plus the scale to give flexibility.
Why not try Brussels - it has tried lots of other places such as Manchester (even basing an A330 to fly Man-Dub-USA), Gatwick, Aldergrove. None of them worked but maybe Brussels will.
Ryanair has the cash and the passenger numbers plus the scale to give flexibility.