Aer Lingus - 6

[fjencl]

Does aerlingus still have a base at LGW.....????

[Skipness One Echo]

I understood the base was closed, is that not correct?

[CARNMANORLAD]

Is there a possibility that LGW based A319 would operate The early service to DUB (the remaining DUB services seem to be on DUB based aircraft). The aircraft then seems to operate to NOC and the late evening BHD service. The aircraft seems to fly something like this...

EI 231 LGW 0650 DUB 0810
EI 232 DUB 0850 LGW 1010

EI 911 LGW 1040 NOC 1210
EI 912 NOC 1245 LGW 1415

? EI 815 LGW 1450 ORK 1615
? EI 814 ORK 1655 LGW 1815

EI 29 LGW 1855 BHD 2015
EI 28 BHD 2050 LGW 2210

The timings I have used for EI815/814 are those currently in the EI booking schedule and happen to fit pretty well so it would seem the current plan is to have me flight each to DUB, NOC, ORK and BHD by an LGW aircraft, most likely an A319, although as said earlier this could change.

Incidentally what is the night curfew at BHD, some articles suggest 2130? Hopefully the aircraft won't pick up to many delays thought the day, although NOC and ORK are not especially known for congestion delays!

Is there any chance that we might see a LDY sector replace the ORK? It seems EI have confirmed ORK has been dropped, looking at the timings there is only room for a shortish sector.

[sawtooth]

Or an evening NOC service? A lot of airport users complaining about times and lack of a late service, particularly weekend commuters. With the current flight moving to mid morning and smaller ac it could be an opportunity for EI to grow the route by offering business/weekend and same-day and connecting options.

[dublinaviator]

Aer Lingus and Air Canada have signed a new interline agreement, and will expand this into a code share agreement in Q1 2013:

Air Canada and Aer Lingus Sign Interline Agreement - Sep 21, 2012

The Sunday Business Post - Aer Lingus, Air Canada link on tickets

Also says Aer Lingus will be moving to T2 at Heathrow from early next year.

[840]

Terminal 1 in Heathrow is due to be demolished in 2014, so a change was inevitable. The open question was whether it would be the new Terminal 2 or Terminal 3 where Aer Lingus ended up.

[Mlinnie]

So Aer Lingus will be starting Dublin-Toronto next year along with Air Canada and Air Transat ?

[dublinaviator]

I wonder when the code share comes into effect, could we see Air Canada moving to T2 at DUB?

[Jamie2k9]

I wonder when the code share comes into effect, could we see Air Canada moving to T2 at DUB?

Its in affect from now. Air Canada offical launch of their new loco carrier takes place in a few weeks and DUB-YYZ will be transfered over for summer 2013 and then flights will contuine year round once they restart. Its about time that DUB had year round to YYZ, its long overdue.

I can't see AC moving to T2 as its full for most of the mornings and there isn't room. Then it could happen but EI may have to move a few short haul flights to Pier B for it to happen.

[Shamrock350]

The code share won't come into effect until both airlines announce it, today was an interline agreement and considered a preliminary step toward a full code sharing deal to be finalised some time next, I'd take a guess in time for the summer schedule. Until that happens no EI codes will appear on AC flights.

I wonder if EI have now ruled out serving Canada themselves or maybe they're looking at another city to operate alongside or complement the AC service to Toronto.

[Skipness One Echo]

DUB-YYZ will be transfered over for summer 2013 and then flights will contuine year round once they restart. Its about time that DUB had year round to YYZ, its long overdue.

Is this rumour or has this been announced? YYZ is dead over the winter from Europe for the most part. What's the name of this loco?

Aer Lingus beginning next year, the planned relocation of both carriers to Terminal 2 at Heathrow to facilitate connections and following that the introduction of year-round flights between Canada and Ireland,

It will be interesting to see Aer Lingus at Air Canada at the new Heathrow T2 next year, as it's not supposed to open until 2014.
"This terminal looks like a bl**dy building sight don't ya know!??!"

[Jamie2k9]

Air Canada have said a number of times that when the loco starts there DUB route would become year round. The branding of the loco will be announced over the coming weeks.

Further info:
Air Canada to launch low-cost carrier in 2013 - thestar.com

Air Transit had DUB in there winter schedules for the coming winter but it was dropped, lots of Irish in Canada now so would expect it to be well used.

[Skipness One Echo]

lots of Irish in Canada now so would expect it to be well used.

I doubt it, it's incredibly seasonal and low yield. There's a reason Air Canada use the "Three Amigos" B767 fleet to DUB, ATH and BCN in summer. You won't see those aircraft at any mainline AC station in Europe, this is a summer holiday route, peak season only. TS would have had a single weekly flight, much like GLA over the winter,that's how small the market gets. If this new loco gets off the ground, I cannot believe they would be anything more than weekly over the winter, it's just never been done in that market, in GOOD times.

This appears to be more like a replacement for the BMI STAR feed over Heathrow and as for the airline within an airline concept, well their track record is poor.

[MarkD]

EI doing a codeshare on BOS-YYZ/YOW/YUL/YHZ would be good to see - surely Jetblue can't object as they don't serve Canadian destinations plus it might keep the BOS-SNN service ticking over.

Be a pity to see TS squeezed out by "AC Jetstar" - us expats are damn glad of their fares compared to AC's rapaciousness and BA's huge fees and taxes.

[Fairdealfrank]

Quote: "Terminal 1 in Heathrow is due to be demolished in 2014, so a change was inevitable. The open question was whether it would be the new Terminal 2 or Terminal 3 where Aer Lingus ended up."

Not LHR-3, there is no common travel area/domestic arrivals facility. LHR-2, being purpose built, will have this available.

AFAIK, LHR-1's occupants are due to move to the new LHR-2, along with the remaining Star Alliance carriers still in LHR-3 (AC, SG, SK, TG, TK, etc.) and LHR-4 (ex-CO part of UA). Then LHR-1 will be demolished, re-aligned, and rebuilt as an extension to LHR-2.



Does this mean that AC and EI will use LHR as a sort of "scissor hub"?

[MarkD]

Be interesting to see if EI announce any more deals like this. The appearance of Union Flag tails in Dublin and Belfast have doubtless prompted them to at least keep options open.

[EI-A330-300]

As far as I know another an interline agreement will be announced. Its another feed that has being lost since bmi went. Not to sure if the plan is to have a codeshare in the future.

[EI-BUD]

another an interline agreement will be announced

EI-A330-300,

Are we looking at Virgin Atlantic here? Based on what I am hearing about the place re the state of the relationship between EI and BA, wouldn't now surprise me if this happened.

Is there a possibility that EI will be the provider of the 319 for VS for UK domestic flying?

[EI-A330-300]

Think its another Star Alliance carrier.

It would be great if Virgin was added to the list as the way things with EI/BA are going the codeshare won't be around to long. If its here this time next year I would be very suprised. Things are not good at all.

Can't see EI flying for VS but as posted earlier I have heard that the 2 A319 will be LGW based.

[EI-A330-300]

Star Alliance courts Aer Lingus to fill Heathrow gap left by BMI | GulfNews.com

Hope EI take advantage of it seen as BA are asking for all connections to be taken with BA flights from DUB and EI if there is no availability.