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Contractors future in AL
Anyone knows if the Sigma contractors get a permanent contract with EI? I'm currently in the desert trying to get back to UK with the family. I understand money is not going to be the same in UK but need to know if anyone from Sigma managed to get a permanent contract with AL after their 2 year contract.
Thank you.
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IAG look set to provide more details next week about EI plans as oppositation to the sale grows day by day. Previously no further details were being provided.
A number of papers are speculatng as to why Qatar purchased 9.9% and how they may be after LHR slots which the Government said they noted the Qatar stake.
A number of papers are speculatng as to why Qatar purchased 9.9% and how they may be after LHR slots which the Government said they noted the Qatar stake.
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There's a good article in the Irish Independent about the effect of the political wrangling about slots on the deal's prospects. Some good comments from airline execs including the Hairy Camel.
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Yes Enda on the radio today on RTE, saying a lot about nothing . . He also admitted that the government has limited influence on the matter. Equally he said they would seek assurances on connectivity but if Willie Walsh moved on or leadership changed at the airline , any such assurances may be short lived.
Padraig O'Ceidigh, previously owner if AerArann says that his view is that the company is grossly under valued...
Padraig O'Ceidigh, previously owner if AerArann says that his view is that the company is grossly under valued...
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A number of papers are speculatng as to why Qatar purchased 9.9% and how they may be after LHR slots which the Government said they noted the Qatar stake.
If QR wants more LHR slots, wouldn't the Qatari government buy the slots for QR from another carrier (assuming one was willing to sell of course)?
Seemingly Kenny wants a 'permanent cast iron guarantee' on Aer Lingus connectivity at DUB. Who is he trying to fool or what on earth is he talking about?
Kennys also taking a gamble on Heathrow being the main UK hub in 20 yrs!
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Kavanagh could be a death knell for EI. He has no vision and operates as the worse kind of bean counter.
-3 years ago he refused to upgrade Y product on T/A routes.
-He is behind the "Choice seats" misleading option on the A330.
-The new J Class service revamp is not getting any extra budget due to him.
-He refuses to allow J Class pax to have complimentary inflight products (ie, tea/coffee) on Shorthaul EI flights.
-He has continually refused to allow a revamp of the GC system to allow points accrual for all flights booked.
-He is being credited with the successful T/A operation out of DUB. I know for a fact that the current DUB as a hub business model was presented to Mueller in Oct 2009 by a frontline staffer. AS the staff member made the presentation Kavanagh was smirking away until Mueller responded positively to the staff member.
-In one meeting he refused to accept Australian and Thai Govt figures for Irish tourists/workers into their countries as reflective of the demand for traffic to these destinations. "my figures are correct"
-3 years ago he refused to upgrade Y product on T/A routes.
-He is behind the "Choice seats" misleading option on the A330.
-The new J Class service revamp is not getting any extra budget due to him.
-He refuses to allow J Class pax to have complimentary inflight products (ie, tea/coffee) on Shorthaul EI flights.
-He has continually refused to allow a revamp of the GC system to allow points accrual for all flights booked.
-He is being credited with the successful T/A operation out of DUB. I know for a fact that the current DUB as a hub business model was presented to Mueller in Oct 2009 by a frontline staffer. AS the staff member made the presentation Kavanagh was smirking away until Mueller responded positively to the staff member.
-In one meeting he refused to accept Australian and Thai Govt figures for Irish tourists/workers into their countries as reflective of the demand for traffic to these destinations. "my figures are correct"
Conor McCarthy (Head of Dublin Aerospace) in todays Sunday Indo thinks similarly....he is saying if he was the 25.11% shareholder he would be pushing for EUR 2,75
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IAG have responded:
Legally binding agreement will state slots, cannont be sold, tranferes and all current LHR routes kept for 5 years. Not sure if it all covers 5 years or for example they could drop any LHR route but the slots will still be used by EI to increase elsewhere. Dublin HQ also kept.
Aer Lingus shares closed up 3.5 while IAG dropped 2.7
Legally binding agreement will state slots, cannont be sold, tranferes and all current LHR routes kept for 5 years. Not sure if it all covers 5 years or for example they could drop any LHR route but the slots will still be used by EI to increase elsewhere. Dublin HQ also kept.
Aer Lingus shares closed up 3.5 while IAG dropped 2.7
IAG have responded:
Legally binding agreement will state slots, cannont be sold, tranferes and all current LHR routes kept for 5 years. Not sure if it all covers 5 years or for example they could drop any LHR route but the slots will still be used by EI to increase elsewhere. Dublin HQ also kept.
Legally binding agreement will state slots, cannont be sold, tranferes and all current LHR routes kept for 5 years. Not sure if it all covers 5 years or for example they could drop any LHR route but the slots will still be used by EI to increase elsewhere. Dublin HQ also kept.
What sanctions when someone changes it....
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CCR ; I'd disagree about Belfast flights being cut. The base is now come of age and on the whole does well, AerLingus have a lower cost base than BA do. Axing BHDLHR would seriously put a question over the whole base especially in Winter, as it would be down to 1 ac.
BA and Vueling operate together on LGW BCN, no reason why BA would be opposed to sharing another sister airline market.
As far as I can see, the guarantee would not cover BHD, no reason why it would. All irish Government statements /comments refer to DUB, ORK ,SNN and even NOC ( which doesn't have a LHR link!).
BA and Vueling operate together on LGW BCN, no reason why BA would be opposed to sharing another sister airline market.
As far as I can see, the guarantee would not cover BHD, no reason why it would. All irish Government statements /comments refer to DUB, ORK ,SNN and even NOC ( which doesn't have a LHR link!).
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CCR ; I'd disagree about Belfast flights being cut. The base is now come of age and on the whole does well, AerLingus have a lower cost base than BA do. Axing BHDLHR would seriously put a question over the whole base especially in Winter, as it would be down to 1 ac.
BA and Vueling operate together on LGW BCN, no reason why BA would be opposed to sharing another sister airline market.
As far as I can see, the guarantee would not cover BHD, no reason why it would. All irish Government statements /comments refer to DUB, ORK ,SNN and even NOC ( which doesn't have a LHR link!).
BA and Vueling operate together on LGW BCN, no reason why BA would be opposed to sharing another sister airline market.
As far as I can see, the guarantee would not cover BHD, no reason why it would. All irish Government statements /comments refer to DUB, ORK ,SNN and even NOC ( which doesn't have a LHR link!).
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Thanks A330 for that.
I see the BHD scenario from a slightly different perspective. EI have stuck by their Belfast operation since they came in with a base at BFS in late 2007. It's been hard yards and on launch they had a very ambitious programme, lost heavily and tried many new routes that hadn't been flown hitherto on a scheduled basis e.g. Budapest and double daily on AMS, was traditionally single daily ..
They introduced the 319, EPR and EPS from Iberia to make the base stack, which underpins their commitment . They now are faced with a court case due to the move to BHD, which in my view will end in their favour.
With a lower cost base and a wider network ex BHD, room to grow once the court case is dealt with , I can see scope for another unit . With some 320's coming on stream this is a real possibility. I can see IAG reducing overall frequency on BHD LHR but increasing ac size, who knows we may yet see green 321 at BHD yet. I believe that EI's finest days are yet to come for Belfast City ...
I see the BHD scenario from a slightly different perspective. EI have stuck by their Belfast operation since they came in with a base at BFS in late 2007. It's been hard yards and on launch they had a very ambitious programme, lost heavily and tried many new routes that hadn't been flown hitherto on a scheduled basis e.g. Budapest and double daily on AMS, was traditionally single daily ..
They introduced the 319, EPR and EPS from Iberia to make the base stack, which underpins their commitment . They now are faced with a court case due to the move to BHD, which in my view will end in their favour.
With a lower cost base and a wider network ex BHD, room to grow once the court case is dealt with , I can see scope for another unit . With some 320's coming on stream this is a real possibility. I can see IAG reducing overall frequency on BHD LHR but increasing ac size, who knows we may yet see green 321 at BHD yet. I believe that EI's finest days are yet to come for Belfast City ...
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For what it's worth, my opinion as a BA employee resident in Ireland and using EI to commute; is that BA, in time, will reduce or even cancel their own flights to DUB and BHD in favour of EI because of the aforementioned EI lower cost base. This would also free up BA's LHR slots for future expansion.
ORK would be a dicier proposition (worryingly my commute), and could potentially see a reduction, and SNN may well finish it's LHR connection.
Talking to EI crew, the realisation is that a long term future can only be secured through consolidation and that being he case IAG may well be the best option. For a lot of EI crew, Walsh at he helm is more of a concern. Once bitten twice......
ORK would be a dicier proposition (worryingly my commute), and could potentially see a reduction, and SNN may well finish it's LHR connection.
Talking to EI crew, the realisation is that a long term future can only be secured through consolidation and that being he case IAG may well be the best option. For a lot of EI crew, Walsh at he helm is more of a concern. Once bitten twice......