Aer Lingus - 6
Aer Lingus has a lower cost base than BA and if tickets also sold on BA website could prove fruitful.
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Being confirmed a vote will be required at Parliament while not the issue as they can pass the vote but is fall out before, during and after is something the Government can afford....with an election just over a year away!
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My thinking is that if the sale goes through, IAG ought to sell Dublin and Shannon more as gateways to the USA, due to the preclearance facilities. Does DUB have the capacity? According to the W14 Start of Season Report here, pg 10, there's plenty of spare runway capacity 08:00-16:00, once all those early bird flights have left.
What about Terminal capacity? Mid-morning is when many US-bound flights leave already, and you can see that on pg 17 of that report: fewer flights but more Pax per US flight means that T2 in particular is quite busy mid-morning already - but still not as busy as early morning.
What about Terminal capacity? Mid-morning is when many US-bound flights leave already, and you can see that on pg 17 of that report: fewer flights but more Pax per US flight means that T2 in particular is quite busy mid-morning already - but still not as busy as early morning.
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You still have not replied back to what you mentioned regarding BA slashing Executive Club?
As a member myself could you clarify as I have not been informed of any changes!
You still have not replied back to what you mentioned regarding BA slashing Executive Club?
As a member myself could you clarify as I have not been informed of any changes!
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Re you post asking about the changes to Executive Club and Avios programme; I got email today. The communication is detailed and complicated in my view, meaning there is no 1 message except this; they say they are making extra seats or rather a dedicated number of seats per flights. For this guaranteed number there will be an impact to the club. Eg: different charges at seasonal times of the year and less costly at off peak times. There is some message about domestic flights but it is not at all clear if the £35 fare in Europe will be still available . This I find useful.
Slightly off topic; for me Avios is great if I need to go last minute say Belfast or Dublin - London. Typically I can get £35 return and 9000 avios. This beats last minute £300 fares etc. equally doing a one way Belfast - Dublin ( with a stop over in London) for 17.50 and 4500 avios, gets me a return flight to London for virtually nothing! However, booking long haul not good value , even using companion tickets earned on Amex.
Re you post asking about the changes to Executive Club and Avios programme; I got email today. The communication is detailed and complicated in my view, meaning there is no 1 message except this; they say they are making extra seats or rather a dedicated number of seats per flights. For this guaranteed number there will be an impact to the club. Eg: different charges at seasonal times of the year and less costly at off peak times. There is some message about domestic flights but it is not at all clear if the £35 fare in Europe will be still available . This I find useful.
Slightly off topic; for me Avios is great if I need to go last minute say Belfast or Dublin - London. Typically I can get £35 return and 9000 avios. This beats last minute £300 fares etc. equally doing a one way Belfast - Dublin ( with a stop over in London) for 17.50 and 4500 avios, gets me a return flight to London for virtually nothing! However, booking long haul not good value , even using companion tickets earned on Amex.
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The second scenario you describe of booking a one way with a stopover in London will be no more post 28 April as per the changes outlined today. No free UK connections so the price of say a return BHD-PRG will go from 9k avios + £35 to 18k avios and £70!
Surely this will impact on the loads from BHD. Maybe not in the short term - in fact they will probably increase in the short term as the current rates are bookable until 28 April to almost a year ahead - but as someone who used it quite a bit for flights to Europe it will be far too expensive to justify over LCCs. Maybe that's why Ryanair are sniffing about again!
The second scenario you describe of booking a one way with a stopover in London will be no more post 28 April as per the changes outlined today. No free UK connections so the price of say a return BHD-PRG will go from 9k avios + £35 to 18k avios and £70!
Surely this will impact on the loads from BHD. Maybe not in the short term - in fact they will probably increase in the short term as the current rates are bookable until 28 April to almost a year ahead - but as someone who used it quite a bit for flights to Europe it will be far too expensive to justify over LCCs. Maybe that's why Ryanair are sniffing about again!
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The advantage EI have, is they are already up and running. BA, I assume would need to find extra aircraft (over and above their existing ones on the routes) and crews to operate the additional services. Of course they could hire EI to do it for them
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They have two A/C leased from GCAS for 4yrs, purely for the LR contract. These will be surplass to requirements come September. I don't think EI have a use for them on the mainline, so it makes sense to utilise them somewhere!
They have two A/C leased from GCAS for 4yrs, purely for the LR contract. These will be surplass to requirements come September. I don't think EI have a use for them on the mainline, so it makes sense to utilise them somewhere!
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It makes more sense to return them to the leaser tbh. Aer Lingus have even less market visiblity in this market than Virgin. They did eventually learn this lesson with the Gatwick base debacle. BA/EI are a long way away from being close enough to do what you suggest, there's surely a lot of groundwork and agreements to be worked through even if the Irish government wave this through. By the time all that's done, those surplus aircraft will be long gone.
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You could well be right there.
I do believe EI could make a much better job of the LHR/EDI route than VIrgin. VS never had the right mindset for shorthaul high density ops. These type of routes have been EIs bread and butter for years.
As for the LGW issue, EI could have made that work, had they the commitment to take on Easy Jet at their own game. This is the third time EI have pulled out of Gatwick. Will they ever make it four?
It makes more sense to return them to the leaser tbh. Aer Lingus have even less market visiblity in this market than Virgin. They did eventually learn this lesson with the Gatwick base debacle. BA/EI are a long way away from being close enough to do what you suggest, there's surely a lot of groundwork and agreements to be worked through even if the Irish government wave this through. By the time all that's done, those surplus aircraft will be long gone.
I do believe EI could make a much better job of the LHR/EDI route than VIrgin. VS never had the right mindset for shorthaul high density ops. These type of routes have been EIs bread and butter for years.
As for the LGW issue, EI could have made that work, had they the commitment to take on Easy Jet at their own game. This is the third time EI have pulled out of Gatwick. Will they ever make it four?
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Stephen Kavanagh (Chief strategy and planning officer) and Easyjet's Chief operations officer Warwick Brady seem to in line for the next CEO well before IAG came along according to the Independent.
Easyjet's operations officer may be a good fit if IAG is rejected....
Aer Lingus sale: Oireachtas commitee hearing to discuss impact as concern grows in coalition - Independent.ie
Meanwhile Irish Airline Pilots Association which represents Pilots who make up 7% of EI are likely to call for rejection of IAG bid.
Aer Lingus pilots not happy with proposed IAG deal - RTÉ News
Easyjet's operations officer may be a good fit if IAG is rejected....
Aer Lingus sale: Oireachtas commitee hearing to discuss impact as concern grows in coalition - Independent.ie
Meanwhile Irish Airline Pilots Association which represents Pilots who make up 7% of EI are likely to call for rejection of IAG bid.
Aer Lingus pilots not happy with proposed IAG deal - RTÉ News
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The Irish Airline Pilots' Association, which represents holders of 7% of Aer Lingus shares
Why would they say that? I wonder how The Takeover Panel would view this claim.
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Stephen Kavanagh (Chief strategy and planning officer) and Easyjet's Chief operations officer Warwick Brady seem to in line for the next CEO well before IAG came along according to the Independent.
Easyjet's operations officer may be a good fit if IAG is rejected....
Kavanagh could be a death knell for EI. He has no vision and operates as the worse kind of bean counter.
-3 years ago he refused to upgrade Y product on T/A routes.
-He is behind the "Choice seats" misleading option on the A330.
-The new J Class service revamp is not getting any extra budget due to him.
-He refuses to allow J Class pax to have complimentary inflight products (ie, tea/coffee) on Shorthaul EI flights.
-He has continually refused to allow a revamp of the GC system to allow points accrual for all flights booked.
-He is being credited with the successful T/A operation out of DUB. I know for a fact that the current DUB as a hub business model was presented to Mueller in Oct 2009 by a frontline staffer. AS the staff member made the presentation Kavanagh was smirking away until Mueller responded positively to the staff member.
-In one meeting he refused to accept Australian and Thai Govt figures for Irish tourists/workers into their countries as reflective of the demand for traffic to these destinations. "my figures are correct"
Easyjet's operations officer may be a good fit if IAG is rejected....
Kavanagh could be a death knell for EI. He has no vision and operates as the worse kind of bean counter.
-3 years ago he refused to upgrade Y product on T/A routes.
-He is behind the "Choice seats" misleading option on the A330.
-The new J Class service revamp is not getting any extra budget due to him.
-He refuses to allow J Class pax to have complimentary inflight products (ie, tea/coffee) on Shorthaul EI flights.
-He has continually refused to allow a revamp of the GC system to allow points accrual for all flights booked.
-He is being credited with the successful T/A operation out of DUB. I know for a fact that the current DUB as a hub business model was presented to Mueller in Oct 2009 by a frontline staffer. AS the staff member made the presentation Kavanagh was smirking away until Mueller responded positively to the staff member.
-In one meeting he refused to accept Australian and Thai Govt figures for Irish tourists/workers into their countries as reflective of the demand for traffic to these destinations. "my figures are correct"
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So the evening LHR BHD routed LHR DUB BHD, changing aircraft in Dublin; EPU swapping over to DER, hence 319 to 320. That's 2 320's in Belfast City now.
Anybody know if that's a temporary or permanent move?
Anybody know if that's a temporary or permanent move?