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Any word on progress on the LGW 744 refurbs? When is the full fleet expected to be completed?
For the customer "Virgin Europe" would be excellent; the product on the US domestic routes is superb; even more so compared to its competitors.
But as many will be picking up on - this is politics rather than economics. The LCC competition is immense (I dare say this wont be Virgins only SH route). Domestic air travel is also falling. Is this just a result of losing their rail franchise?
What we do know is that BA IMO have them by the short and curlies. An established product and network and possibility some desperation after their failed BMI bid.
But as many will be picking up on - this is politics rather than economics. The LCC competition is immense (I dare say this wont be Virgins only SH route). Domestic air travel is also falling. Is this just a result of losing their rail franchise?
What we do know is that BA IMO have them by the short and curlies. An established product and network and possibility some desperation after their failed BMI bid.
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You mean the Viscount to Dublin? Does this exactly count? They also did the flights to Athens and the IT flights, but none came to much. I just looked at the proposed schedule on Airline Routes, 3 daily flights at what initially look not so good times of the day. I take it these will go from T3 at LHR ?
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They haven't placed an order yet for this 'A319' or was it an undisclosed order? This will show whether it is knee-jerk political move or a planned strategic entry after the bmi failure. How many seats will it have?
It spells the end of any further long haul development at MAN though as they will be trying to get feed. Why do the UK regions like Manchester, Birmingham, Belfast and Edinburgh, even Newcastle not attract direct long-haul (in terms of UK based scheduled airlines)
It spells the end of any further long haul development at MAN though as they will be trying to get feed. Why do the UK regions like Manchester, Birmingham, Belfast and Edinburgh, even Newcastle not attract direct long-haul (in terms of UK based scheduled airlines)
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All it is doing is a direct replacement for the bmi flights MAN-LHR
which carried quite a few connecting pax for Virgins many flights ex London
and a large number of crews for Mancheter operations so I cannot see why it
should have any effect on Manchester expansion in the future
Ian
which carried quite a few connecting pax for Virgins many flights ex London
and a large number of crews for Mancheter operations so I cannot see why it
should have any effect on Manchester expansion in the future
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Seems like a very expensive way of serving your crew...
Shouldn't Virgin stick to what it does best - Long Haul? The short-haul market is saturated.
they should be considering BHX, MAN, NCL to New York (i.e an operational base at JFK) etc. Now that would be very interesting and would probably be far better for the economy surely?
I think Virgin have lost their mo-jo
Shouldn't Virgin stick to what it does best - Long Haul? The short-haul market is saturated.
they should be considering BHX, MAN, NCL to New York (i.e an operational base at JFK) etc. Now that would be very interesting and would probably be far better for the economy surely?
I think Virgin have lost their mo-jo
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They haven't placed an order yet for this 'A319' or was it an undisclosed order?
I give Virgin credit for putting their money where their mouths are but a dual terminal operation is going to add a lot of expense for a route that is not going to give high yields.
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Next stop, Plymouth!
This is going to open up the floodgates to the spotter groups arguing Virgin should fly domestic to their airport, etc etc etc
Save Plymouth City Airport
Virgin Atlantic has just announced domestic services from London Heathrow to Manchester, gap for us?
Virgin Atlantic has just announced domestic services from London Heathrow to Manchester, gap for us?
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I fail to understand what on earth this has to do with PLY?
The best bet would be for Eastern Airways to become Virgin Regional or something
The best bet would be for Eastern Airways to become Virgin Regional or something
Eastern has a developing relationship with BA and flying small AC as BMI has shown in/out of LHR is NOT going to be the best way to do it.
Vs3041 lhr0920 – 1020man 319 d
vs3043 lhr1610 – 1710man 319 d
vs3045 lhr2010 – 2110man 319 d
vs3046 man0650 – 0800lhr 319 d
vs3042 man1220 – 1330lhr 319 d
vs3044 man1750 – 1900lhr 319 d
vs3043 lhr1610 – 1710man 319 d
vs3045 lhr2010 – 2110man 319 d
vs3046 man0650 – 0800lhr 319 d
vs3042 man1220 – 1330lhr 319 d
vs3044 man1750 – 1900lhr 319 d
Is this the start of Virgin Europe or is it just RB's answer to losing the rail contract?
I would love to see him take Ryanair on and offer a LC service that doesn't treat its pax and staff like cattle. I would have thought he would need to buy an existing carrier like Jet2 etc. to make it work though.
I would love to see him take Ryanair on and offer a LC service that doesn't treat its pax and staff like cattle. I would have thought he would need to buy an existing carrier like Jet2 etc. to make it work though.
Probably just me adding 2+2 and getting the wrong answer, but, might this be something to do with one of the conditions for bidding for the ABZ and EDI slots that the airline is not allowed to have any leased out slots and these were brought back to allow Virgin to bid? If so Virgin have the choice of running 3 new long haul routes, finding more airframes to increase frequency on existing routes or "slot sitting" on a short domestic route and making political capital from the situation.
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